-First group date starts off the show and the guys show up in a full on sprint to see her like this was the NFL combine. Did they do the cone drill too? Standing broad jump? Whatever the case, Mike won the race and didn’t necessarily hug her, but picked her up from her waist and listed her in the air like a male cheerleader would if he was about to throw the other tiny cheerleader in the air. Me Mike. Me strong like bull. What if Mike underestimated his strength, threw her ridiculously high and then dropped her? That would’ve been two hospital trips this episode.
-They show up in a room where Jason Biggs and his wife Jenny Mollen are pretending to give birth. Would’ve been much more humorous if they would’ve just walked in on Jason f***ing a pie again. I don’t care how many years old that movie is, it’s one of the most iconic scenes ever. They had Chris Soules re-create the scene of John Bender on the football field from “Breakfast Club,” could we not break out an apple pie for Jason to bang so I can get a good laugh? Is that asking too much? This show is supposed to entertain me dammit.
-The date consists of learning about the female anatomy, focusing primarily on birth. One guy thought the uterus grows the most. Another one thought the gestational period lasts a couple months. Did any of these guys take Sex Wd after sixth grade or do they all just have horrible memories? Now granted, when I was in 6th grade and in my first Sex Ed class, we had to label male and female body parts and I put the Fallopian Tubes in the male. But that’s the point: I was 11. Not a mid-20s male who’s seemingly educated. I’m glad they didn’t show us more answers from the guys. I fear one of them might’ve thought you could get pregnant from a handy.
-Then they had to experience what it was like being a woman. No they didn’t put them in a 72 degree room and say they were cold. I’m kidding. I think. Hey, I can only speak of my experiences with, I don’t know, every single girl I’ve ever been with and they were all cold all the time. So there’s that. No, these guys had to experience child birth. They made them push a watermelon out through their penis. Or not. But they did hook them up to a device that apparently gave them the same pain feeling as delivering a child. How close it was to the pain of child birth, but considering 7 of the 8 were able to handle it fairly well, I’m guessing it wasn’t quite the exact same feeling. Except for J Paul J, who either overacted or, well, overacted.
-At the after party, Jed gets time first as they head to the top of some LA hotel. He tells her “I’ve never seen a city this big.” Is that kind of an odd thing to say? I mean, it’s not like he’s from some random small town. He lives in Nashville. And no, Nashville is not as big as LA. But if Jed were having that exact same conversation atop a hotel in Nashville, you’d basically be seeing the exact same thing – a giant city. Can you really tell how big a city is by overlooking it? Your eyes can only see a certain distance then everything kinda looks the same, no? I don’t know. Just seemed like a weird comment to me. I think, “Wow, I’ve never been to LA. Seeing it like this is unbelievable” would be more appropriate. Whatever. Hannah didn’t care. She tongue wrestled him for a little bit and that was that.
-Mike tells her a story of how his ex got pregnant and they lost the baby in the second trimester. Way to bring the mood down, Mike. Awful story. Hate to hear he had to go through that. But in these settings, once somebody tells a private story like that, especially during an after party, you pretty much expect them to get the group date rose. It’s almost a given. And you know who doesn’t get one in that situation? The guy who interrupts the guy talking about losing a baby with an ex as Cam came in three different times looking for time with Hannah. Oh boy, here we go…
-We all know how this goes by now in regards to people interrupting during someone else’s alone time. It’s spurred on by producers. They tell you when you can and can’t talk to the lead. I expressed this on Twitter last night and former contestant and podcast guest Michael Garofola chimed in with an interesting point…
It's true, but there is still free will. You have the option to go, "nah, I'd rather not," which could force producers' hands with how to handle your narrative going forward.
— Michael G. (@MichaelGarofola) May 28, 2019
So yes, you do have the capability to tell a producer you don’t want to do that. But over the years, season after season, how many contestants have we seen every season where we go, “What are they doing?” Yes, it’s ultimately on them. But we also don’t know what a producer is saying to them behind the scenes to prod them to do it. I’ve heard stories of, “If you don’t do this, you’re probably not getting a rose tonight.” So while it all falls on Cam because he could’ve said no, lets all remember how manipulative the producers can be. It happens every season.
-Tyler gets some time with her and essentially he says he’s all about woman power. Calls Hannah a bad ass woman and he wants to be her arm candy because “he tastes good too.” And that probably went in a direction in some women’s minds watching this show that I don’t wanna know about. But you know they were thinking it. As good as Cam thinks he tastes, Hannah gives the group date rose to Mike over everyone else, and lets just say as an audience member, I don’t think any of us were surprised.
wuzafed
May 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
I don’t have a problem with Mike or his story – except …. he got so emotional when taking the blame for the miscarriage because he wasn’t there and then 10 seconds later is sucking face with Hannah – seriously???
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM
If anyone ever questioned why Luke was getting a bad edit… all they need to do is look at last night’s episode.
You CANNOT blame the producers for that — Luke actually told Hannah, “I’m letting you develop relationships with others”
O. M. G!!!
Dude has some serious personality disorders and if ABC was serious about contestant evaluation, Luke would have not been ever cast in the first place.
tinyred500
May 28, 2019 at 12:27 PM
@corn29
The Luke thing is pretty bad and a tad scary! A male version of AshLee ‘crazy’ Frazier. Some things just can’t be edited or manipulated by the producers’. Some contestants are simply cast because of emotional issues etc., and I don’t doubt that’s why Luke was cast. Overall, they are all essentially lab rats, and that includes the lead.
shellgohawks
May 28, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Thank you for mentioning her red nose. Come on ABC touch up her foundation every now and then. That’s fixable with a little powder. Also, if I had to guess, I would say that Hannah was dehydrated for whatever reason. They did mention the flu but then she said that she wasn’t contagious. Nothing like a little norovirus flying around the mansion to stir things up a bit. Thanks for this site. It adds so much to watching this show!
Nahu-DF
May 28, 2019 at 3:40 PM
I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented what Cam had said. He said that Hannah might send him home AFTER telling her about his condition, which had happened to him in prior relationships. Mike twisted what he said and made it seen as if he was planning on telling his story to get a pity rose, which is exactly what he did some days before. I think Mike is a disgusting human being for trying to savotage Cam with lies and deceit. I’m also questioning Hannah’s judgement for taking Mike at his word.
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM
@Nahu-DF
> I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact
> that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented
I for one, and I’m no Nancy Grace, thought absolutely Cam was trying to get a pitty rose.
> what Cam had said
What exactly did Cam say?
That he had a situation; some gibberish about an amputation and a puppy.
It was a non-nonsensical rant, with little to no details, about who knows what and if you watch the replay, Hannah looks like she wants to laugh at him.
marie101?
May 28, 2019 at 6:20 PM
Cam’s speech was more contrived than Mike’s just because he announced it to everyone up front. Mike’s seemed contrived because it looked like they just sat down and he launched in to it with nothing leading up to it, but with the editing it is hard to say how long they might have been talking before he got into it. It should have been a mood killer for any romantic gesture after for sure though, let alone face sucking.
I think everyone is being affected by LA pollution. It is the worst in the country. Even the guys sound nasally/sick. I think Hannah’s nose/guys voices will clear up once they are out of town.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-los-angeles-air-ozone-pollution-20190424-story.html
I wonder if Luke has taken up a Christian religion where men are considered to have authority over women. It may make him feel like he can embrace his inner control freak, because that is certainly how he is acting. I’m not sure he was paying attention to how not submissive Hannah was on Colton’s season and only saw what he wanted. Hannah is definitely NOT the woman for him, lol!
joanne
May 28, 2019 at 6:50 PM
I thought the whole pretend pregnancy and childbirth was the most cringeworthy thing this show has ever done. And they have done some bad ones.
meredith1972
May 29, 2019 at 7:46 AM
We know from ex- producers and contestants several things. One is that in the interviewing process they give the contestants a lengthy psychological test which reveals their strengths and weaknesses….which the producers EXPLOIT.
I strongly suspect Cam is socially inept, and while Mike’s leadership qualities were a plus in the military, he came across last night as a bit overpowering and underhanded as we never heard Cam use the word PITY rose. Mike misconstrued the situation to Hannah to get his desired results, and I suspect none of them is particularly pleased with the way that looked.
Jonathan’s psych test may have revealed persistence and determination; therefore, he may well have been producer manipulated into that scene we saw last night.
Luke clearly does not understand how reality shows operate, the manipulation, or the editing techniques, so he wasn’t careful at all with what he said.
One of the producers’ favorite tricks is to stand sight unseen to the side and ask a question. We don’t hear the question…only the answer which often results in ridiculous things – if not the things the person would ordinarily mean in the situation we are seeing.
*For that reason I don’t take at face value everything we hear the person say.
However, I do believe, perhaps, something tipped them off in his tests and interviews that he can be possessive, and they have manipulated that excessively.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 8:50 AM
I agree with what you’ve said, great comment. I’d add further, that some conversations take place between contestants (that aren’t or can’t be shown for whatever reason), that we later hear about, which show a true nature of a person, some positive, some not. The psychological tests are most definitely used to exploit some of the contestants as it’s used ‘against’ them. One producer said some psychological test results were ‘borderline’, thus pretty much confirming they really shouldn’t have had certain contestant(s) on the programme. 🙁
corn29
May 29, 2019 at 11:28 AM
This is what makes me so mad about this show at times… “the psychological tests”. After Corinne/BIP blew up, ABC spun it the evals were there for safety, vetting, etc.
That’s a lie.
Shocker, I know.
But if ABC is truly concerned about contestant safety, there’s no way a Chad, a Corinne, a Luke gets on this show.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 1:55 PM
ABC really only care about ratings, the rest is mostly empty platitudes. The psychological tests aren’t really there to serve as a safety net for the contestants, they are done so the producers know the contestants strengths and flaws etc. Corrine set her own agenda on how she wanted to be portrayed on the programme. I don’t think that really happened in such an obvious way before her. During Arie’s series we had Demi, and so now we have contestants going on there to seek the most air time possible and those who are manipulated etc. who attract attention, but not necessarily of their own wanting or making. Chad would largely come under this edit, he really shouldn’t have gone nor have been allowed to go on the show at all. He was the producers puppet and play thing. 🙁