-The second group date was up next and this got…uncomfortable. They first met up with Franco the photographer who bears an uncanny resemblance to Franc from “Father of the Bride.” Like, I think they’re related. Blood relatives. Two peas in a pod these two are I tell ya’. Oh yeah, they will be doing a photoshoot with animals because, whaddya’ know, it’s a tie-in to help promote “The Secret Life of Pets 2” coming to a theater near you. Cool. I saw the first one. I enjoyed it. I’m sure this one will do just fine. Especially now that Hannah’s guys had to somehow promote it, even though nothing they did on the date tied into that movie at all. Taking pictures with pets? That’s supposed to go make me watch the movie? In the past, they’ve actually either had the guys get an early screening of the movie, or, they actually showed clips of it. This was like, “Hey, there’s a movie about pets coming out. Why don’t you take some pictures with a dog. It’ll be totes the best corporate synergy ever!”
-Oh yeah, did I mention Demi was on this date too in a made up position for her to appear yet again and deliver completely irrelevant news to Hannah? Well, she did. The scene was pointless since nothing came of it. However, for fear of having the Demi mob come after me for saying anything remotely negative about her, let’s just move on.
-The guys all had their own pet they had to befriend and then she took pictures with each of them. Grant had a snake. Joey had a pig. Peter had a dog. So did Garrett. Hannah was into Peter and he asked to get closer and closer during their close up until they finally kissed. Nearby, Luke P. could practically taste the saliva being exchanged by the two of them. He’s not a happy man. Hannah is forming connections with others and, well, when you’re Luke P. and you believe Hannah should be having your babies yesterday, that’s gonna sting a little bit for sure. So Luke steps in and tells Hannah, “Get on my back while I’m doing pushups. It’ll be hee-larious.” I mean, whatever you say. Then when they’re done, Luke wants to walk her back to her dressing room before the first of many times last night Hannah puts her foot down. She tells him she likes him, but he’s being a bit extra right now. That’s what the kids call it, right? Extra? I’m so hip. Not bad for an almost mid-40’s guy who is completely giddy to have a birthday dinner at Olive Garden. That’s how I roll, peeps. Where you at?
-At the after party, Luke P. gets his time with Hannah first – again – but this time it’s because she pulls him away to basically rip him a new one. She says he stole the show in a negative way, and that he doesn’t need to do that anymore. Luke chimes in: “I really don’t think these guys have what it takes to be your future husband.” Hannah was having none of that and basically told him to slow his roll, calm down, and not act the way he was acting. Will he listen? Doesn’t look like he does since he gets into it again next week with Luke S. Hell, he didn’t even listen last night as twice after Hannah sends him away after essentially dressing him down and telling him to grow up, he twice interrupts her time with Devin and Dylan, and she tells him she’ll talk to him later and basically wait your turn. If someone can explain what’s going through Luke P’s mind this whole episode, that’d be great.
-After those two interrupts, Luke P STILL waiting to talk to her while she’s talking to someone else, and Peter is waiting as well. But Luke P tells him he’s barely had any time and he needs to talk to her and doesn’t care that Peter wants to as well. His time is more important. He briefly gets her, and Hannah who’s visibly frustrated at this point, tells him “I wanna call my own shots…I said I was gonna talk to you…” and Luke P is frustrated again as she rebuffs him and goes to make out with Peter. Frustrated so much as to go back into the other room with the rest of the guys to basically say he’s having trouble handling this show and is contemplating leaving if Hannah doesn’t reciprocate the feelings he has for her. I mean, where do you even begin with this? I understand what he’s saying, but it just goes to show that either Luke had no clue what he was getting into by signing up for this show and is totally lost, or, he’s just playing a role. She’s going to date other guys. She’s going to have feelings for other guys. That’s how the show works. I understand you have these intense, strong feelings for someone, but constantly cornering her and making her feel like a caged animal isn’t going to win you any points. The whole thing is flat out bizarre, and again, this is only gonna get worse before it gets better for him.
-Luke’s only play at this point is to show up at the Men Tell All, man up, and say after watching the show back and realizing how he came across, he apologizes for his actions. Fighting it on social media, blaming the edit, whining about how you’re being portrayed, etc., if that’s the route he’s taking (A quick check of his IG is showing he doesn’t seem to be addressing the show at all or responding to negative comments and it’s all workout pics, so I guess that’s a start), it’s the wrong one. None of the guys in the house like him, I have seen a couple tweets and IG posts from the other guys STILL making fun of him and how he acted, so it goes to show they truly didn’t care for the guy if months later they’re still doing it. If I were him, I’d lay low on social media, not say a word, not comment back to anybody saying anything negative on his IG, and just get to the MTA and apologize for how you acted. “I was really into you, my emotions got the best of me, I didn’t realize until after watching it back how it was coming across, and I’m sorry.” Paraphrasing, but that’s the gist of what he should say at the MTA. Will he? I have no idea. I’m here to help though. Been doing this long enough. I’ve seen how this goes for contestants. That’s his best plan of action going forward.
wuzafed
May 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
I don’t have a problem with Mike or his story – except …. he got so emotional when taking the blame for the miscarriage because he wasn’t there and then 10 seconds later is sucking face with Hannah – seriously???
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM
If anyone ever questioned why Luke was getting a bad edit… all they need to do is look at last night’s episode.
You CANNOT blame the producers for that — Luke actually told Hannah, “I’m letting you develop relationships with others”
O. M. G!!!
Dude has some serious personality disorders and if ABC was serious about contestant evaluation, Luke would have not been ever cast in the first place.
tinyred500
May 28, 2019 at 12:27 PM
@corn29
The Luke thing is pretty bad and a tad scary! A male version of AshLee ‘crazy’ Frazier. Some things just can’t be edited or manipulated by the producers’. Some contestants are simply cast because of emotional issues etc., and I don’t doubt that’s why Luke was cast. Overall, they are all essentially lab rats, and that includes the lead.
shellgohawks
May 28, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Thank you for mentioning her red nose. Come on ABC touch up her foundation every now and then. That’s fixable with a little powder. Also, if I had to guess, I would say that Hannah was dehydrated for whatever reason. They did mention the flu but then she said that she wasn’t contagious. Nothing like a little norovirus flying around the mansion to stir things up a bit. Thanks for this site. It adds so much to watching this show!
Nahu-DF
May 28, 2019 at 3:40 PM
I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented what Cam had said. He said that Hannah might send him home AFTER telling her about his condition, which had happened to him in prior relationships. Mike twisted what he said and made it seen as if he was planning on telling his story to get a pity rose, which is exactly what he did some days before. I think Mike is a disgusting human being for trying to savotage Cam with lies and deceit. I’m also questioning Hannah’s judgement for taking Mike at his word.
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM
@Nahu-DF
> I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact
> that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented
I for one, and I’m no Nancy Grace, thought absolutely Cam was trying to get a pitty rose.
> what Cam had said
What exactly did Cam say?
That he had a situation; some gibberish about an amputation and a puppy.
It was a non-nonsensical rant, with little to no details, about who knows what and if you watch the replay, Hannah looks like she wants to laugh at him.
marie101?
May 28, 2019 at 6:20 PM
Cam’s speech was more contrived than Mike’s just because he announced it to everyone up front. Mike’s seemed contrived because it looked like they just sat down and he launched in to it with nothing leading up to it, but with the editing it is hard to say how long they might have been talking before he got into it. It should have been a mood killer for any romantic gesture after for sure though, let alone face sucking.
I think everyone is being affected by LA pollution. It is the worst in the country. Even the guys sound nasally/sick. I think Hannah’s nose/guys voices will clear up once they are out of town.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-los-angeles-air-ozone-pollution-20190424-story.html
I wonder if Luke has taken up a Christian religion where men are considered to have authority over women. It may make him feel like he can embrace his inner control freak, because that is certainly how he is acting. I’m not sure he was paying attention to how not submissive Hannah was on Colton’s season and only saw what he wanted. Hannah is definitely NOT the woman for him, lol!
joanne
May 28, 2019 at 6:50 PM
I thought the whole pretend pregnancy and childbirth was the most cringeworthy thing this show has ever done. And they have done some bad ones.
meredith1972
May 29, 2019 at 7:46 AM
We know from ex- producers and contestants several things. One is that in the interviewing process they give the contestants a lengthy psychological test which reveals their strengths and weaknesses….which the producers EXPLOIT.
I strongly suspect Cam is socially inept, and while Mike’s leadership qualities were a plus in the military, he came across last night as a bit overpowering and underhanded as we never heard Cam use the word PITY rose. Mike misconstrued the situation to Hannah to get his desired results, and I suspect none of them is particularly pleased with the way that looked.
Jonathan’s psych test may have revealed persistence and determination; therefore, he may well have been producer manipulated into that scene we saw last night.
Luke clearly does not understand how reality shows operate, the manipulation, or the editing techniques, so he wasn’t careful at all with what he said.
One of the producers’ favorite tricks is to stand sight unseen to the side and ask a question. We don’t hear the question…only the answer which often results in ridiculous things – if not the things the person would ordinarily mean in the situation we are seeing.
*For that reason I don’t take at face value everything we hear the person say.
However, I do believe, perhaps, something tipped them off in his tests and interviews that he can be possessive, and they have manipulated that excessively.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 8:50 AM
I agree with what you’ve said, great comment. I’d add further, that some conversations take place between contestants (that aren’t or can’t be shown for whatever reason), that we later hear about, which show a true nature of a person, some positive, some not. The psychological tests are most definitely used to exploit some of the contestants as it’s used ‘against’ them. One producer said some psychological test results were ‘borderline’, thus pretty much confirming they really shouldn’t have had certain contestant(s) on the programme. 🙁
corn29
May 29, 2019 at 11:28 AM
This is what makes me so mad about this show at times… “the psychological tests”. After Corinne/BIP blew up, ABC spun it the evals were there for safety, vetting, etc.
That’s a lie.
Shocker, I know.
But if ABC is truly concerned about contestant safety, there’s no way a Chad, a Corinne, a Luke gets on this show.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 1:55 PM
ABC really only care about ratings, the rest is mostly empty platitudes. The psychological tests aren’t really there to serve as a safety net for the contestants, they are done so the producers know the contestants strengths and flaws etc. Corrine set her own agenda on how she wanted to be portrayed on the programme. I don’t think that really happened in such an obvious way before her. During Arie’s series we had Demi, and so now we have contestants going on there to seek the most air time possible and those who are manipulated etc. who attract attention, but not necessarily of their own wanting or making. Chad would largely come under this edit, he really shouldn’t have gone nor have been allowed to go on the show at all. He was the producers puppet and play thing. 🙁