-The day of the rose ceremony, Chris Harrison comes in to tell the guys there will be no cocktail party that night, but instead, they will have a good ol’ tailgate party since in case you didn’t know, Hannah is from Alabama and the Alabamans love their football, and there’s nothing more synonymous with college football than tailgaiting. Well, that and cheating, $100 handshakes, paying players for summer jobs they never work at, backhanded deals, and all the forged papers and changed grades you can shake a stick at. But hey, lets forget that for just this one day and play some cornhole!
-After Chris leaves and the festivities are about to begin, Cam tells the guys he has a very personal story he wants to tell Hannah and he’d appreciate it if they’d let him talk to her first, which goes over about as well as someone spiking the punch at prom. After all of Cam’s interruptions on their date, they’re really having none of it when it comes to Cam now wanting time with her to tell her his story. Now, you can agree with the guys being frustrated by Cam and pulling that, but lets not question the guys story. When he tells it to Hannah, they keep doing cutaways to the guys talking about how mad they are, so Cam’s story included his leg injury, the death of his grandma, and a dog he had to give away. The way it was chopped up didn’t make it sound all that big of a deal. However, the dude isn’t lying about his leg issues. He suffers from Lymphedema and that shit is not good. Here’s a link I found of the work Cam does for it and, you’ve been warned, a pretty grotesque picture of how bad his leg got:
https://lymphaticnetwork.org/news-events/cameron-ayala-lern-celebrity-ambassador
So while the story came across on TV more like, “Oh, guess he had some stuff happen to him, why he’d make such a big deal out of it,” hopefully that answers your question. Editing can be a tricky thing.
-What didn’t make much sense was Mike’s approach to Hannah when he spoke to her. He tells Hannah that when Cam spoke to the guys, he said he wanted to tell the story to Hannah for a pity rose. Wait, what? We never saw Cam say “pity rose” during his talk with the guys. And rest assured, if he ever uttered the phrase pity rose, considering the way he’s been shown this season, they absolutely would’ve had no problem showing him say that. So Mike just assumed that’s what Cam was after, but the way he presented it to Hannah wasn’t based off an assumption, he told her Cam specifically said it, when we have zero evidence he did. What’s also weird about this is Mike told Hannah the story about losing a baby with his ex. Couldn’t that be considered trying to get a “pity rose.” How is telling that story any different than Cam wanting to tell her his story? Here’s the major difference in how people reacted last night: They already like Mike and Cam’s edit basically has everyone annoyed by him, so they immediately dismiss what Cam has to say and don’t consider what Mike did. Boy that editing can really get you.
-I don’t think Mike’s a bad guy at all. Seems to be well liked, the fans are all about him, and we all know he goes far, but try being objective about someone you might like. What he did was bush league. He didn’t need to go there, and it’s hypocritical of him saying that Cam told to a sob story to try and stay when he told a sob story just a few days earlier during a date. Just because you like a guy doesn’t mean they can do no wrong. Cam has done plenty wrong this season by listening to producers constantly telling him to interrupt and show up on dates he wasn’t a part of, but don’t let that blind you to make it seem like Mike is innocent in all this. So unless Mike comes out and says “Cam specifically said he was telling Hannah his story to get a pity rose,” then all it was was his opinion that’s why he was telling it, yet he presented it to Hannah as fact. And that’s just as bad if you ask me. I guess time will tell, but knowing how this show works, if Cam ever uttered the phrase “pity rose,” we would’ve seen it.
-Rose ceremony time. Mike, Connor, and Peter are safe with roses. Had the wrong group date rose in the spoilers for this one as I thought it was Garrett, but it was Peter. And Cam didn’t go home during the cocktail party. Oops. Please forgive me for all my sins. Hannah: “Incredible day today…harder and harder every single week to make these decisions…hard decision to just go with my heart…if you’re still here, I’m excited about our future. Especially with you Luke P. You seem so calm and level headed about everything in this process.”
Jed: Next week they’re in Newport, Rhode Island. Will he think that’s a big city too?
Tyler: He’s either the coolest guy on the planet or he’s stoned 24/7.
Dustin: Yes, there is a Dustin on the show this season.
Dylan: And a Dylan too.
Grant: Grant? There’s a Grant?
Luke P: Pretty sure we’re well aware of who this guy is this season. He’s the one who will be screaming at another man in episode 7.
Garrett: He looks like a more polished Dean.
John Paul Jones: At least he got to experience child birth before being sent home next week.
Matteo: I wonder if any of his 114 kids are watching daddy on this show?
Devin: We also have a Devin on the show that’s had two group date conversations with Hannah interrupted by Cam and Luke P. Shows you what production thought of Devin. You know who’s never having a convo with Hannah interrupted by anyone? Jed. Tyler. Peter.
Luke S.: Bootleg Nick Viall will bow up to Luke P. next week.
“Hannah, gentleman, it’s the final rose tonight. When you’re ready. I always say that, but what if Hannah is hungry and wants to take an hour before giving out the final rose? Or needs to run to the bathroom to throw up? Sure, I can tell her when she’s ready, but is it really when she’s ready?”
Kevin: We owe him all one big thank you for bringing awareness to the plight of the chicken nugget. Thank you Kevin for your bravery.
Next week will be quite an interesting episode as both of her final two guys get 1-on-1’s, so I’m sure that’ll be dissected like a fish in high school biology. Also, the battle of Luke’s next week during the rugby date. Unfortunately, neither involves Luke Skywalker, and that’s just a shame.
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wuzafed
May 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM
I don’t have a problem with Mike or his story – except …. he got so emotional when taking the blame for the miscarriage because he wasn’t there and then 10 seconds later is sucking face with Hannah – seriously???
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM
If anyone ever questioned why Luke was getting a bad edit… all they need to do is look at last night’s episode.
You CANNOT blame the producers for that — Luke actually told Hannah, “I’m letting you develop relationships with others”
O. M. G!!!
Dude has some serious personality disorders and if ABC was serious about contestant evaluation, Luke would have not been ever cast in the first place.
tinyred500
May 28, 2019 at 12:27 PM
@corn29
The Luke thing is pretty bad and a tad scary! A male version of AshLee ‘crazy’ Frazier. Some things just can’t be edited or manipulated by the producers’. Some contestants are simply cast because of emotional issues etc., and I don’t doubt that’s why Luke was cast. Overall, they are all essentially lab rats, and that includes the lead.
shellgohawks
May 28, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Thank you for mentioning her red nose. Come on ABC touch up her foundation every now and then. That’s fixable with a little powder. Also, if I had to guess, I would say that Hannah was dehydrated for whatever reason. They did mention the flu but then she said that she wasn’t contagious. Nothing like a little norovirus flying around the mansion to stir things up a bit. Thanks for this site. It adds so much to watching this show!
Nahu-DF
May 28, 2019 at 3:40 PM
I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented what Cam had said. He said that Hannah might send him home AFTER telling her about his condition, which had happened to him in prior relationships. Mike twisted what he said and made it seen as if he was planning on telling his story to get a pity rose, which is exactly what he did some days before. I think Mike is a disgusting human being for trying to savotage Cam with lies and deceit. I’m also questioning Hannah’s judgement for taking Mike at his word.
corn29
May 28, 2019 at 5:01 PM
@Nahu-DF
> I don’t understand why no one is talking about the fact
> that Mike blatantly lied and misrepresented
I for one, and I’m no Nancy Grace, thought absolutely Cam was trying to get a pitty rose.
> what Cam had said
What exactly did Cam say?
That he had a situation; some gibberish about an amputation and a puppy.
It was a non-nonsensical rant, with little to no details, about who knows what and if you watch the replay, Hannah looks like she wants to laugh at him.
marie101?
May 28, 2019 at 6:20 PM
Cam’s speech was more contrived than Mike’s just because he announced it to everyone up front. Mike’s seemed contrived because it looked like they just sat down and he launched in to it with nothing leading up to it, but with the editing it is hard to say how long they might have been talking before he got into it. It should have been a mood killer for any romantic gesture after for sure though, let alone face sucking.
I think everyone is being affected by LA pollution. It is the worst in the country. Even the guys sound nasally/sick. I think Hannah’s nose/guys voices will clear up once they are out of town.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-los-angeles-air-ozone-pollution-20190424-story.html
I wonder if Luke has taken up a Christian religion where men are considered to have authority over women. It may make him feel like he can embrace his inner control freak, because that is certainly how he is acting. I’m not sure he was paying attention to how not submissive Hannah was on Colton’s season and only saw what he wanted. Hannah is definitely NOT the woman for him, lol!
joanne
May 28, 2019 at 6:50 PM
I thought the whole pretend pregnancy and childbirth was the most cringeworthy thing this show has ever done. And they have done some bad ones.
meredith1972
May 29, 2019 at 7:46 AM
We know from ex- producers and contestants several things. One is that in the interviewing process they give the contestants a lengthy psychological test which reveals their strengths and weaknesses….which the producers EXPLOIT.
I strongly suspect Cam is socially inept, and while Mike’s leadership qualities were a plus in the military, he came across last night as a bit overpowering and underhanded as we never heard Cam use the word PITY rose. Mike misconstrued the situation to Hannah to get his desired results, and I suspect none of them is particularly pleased with the way that looked.
Jonathan’s psych test may have revealed persistence and determination; therefore, he may well have been producer manipulated into that scene we saw last night.
Luke clearly does not understand how reality shows operate, the manipulation, or the editing techniques, so he wasn’t careful at all with what he said.
One of the producers’ favorite tricks is to stand sight unseen to the side and ask a question. We don’t hear the question…only the answer which often results in ridiculous things – if not the things the person would ordinarily mean in the situation we are seeing.
*For that reason I don’t take at face value everything we hear the person say.
However, I do believe, perhaps, something tipped them off in his tests and interviews that he can be possessive, and they have manipulated that excessively.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 8:50 AM
I agree with what you’ve said, great comment. I’d add further, that some conversations take place between contestants (that aren’t or can’t be shown for whatever reason), that we later hear about, which show a true nature of a person, some positive, some not. The psychological tests are most definitely used to exploit some of the contestants as it’s used ‘against’ them. One producer said some psychological test results were ‘borderline’, thus pretty much confirming they really shouldn’t have had certain contestant(s) on the programme. 🙁
corn29
May 29, 2019 at 11:28 AM
This is what makes me so mad about this show at times… “the psychological tests”. After Corinne/BIP blew up, ABC spun it the evals were there for safety, vetting, etc.
That’s a lie.
Shocker, I know.
But if ABC is truly concerned about contestant safety, there’s no way a Chad, a Corinne, a Luke gets on this show.
tinyred500
May 29, 2019 at 1:55 PM
ABC really only care about ratings, the rest is mostly empty platitudes. The psychological tests aren’t really there to serve as a safety net for the contestants, they are done so the producers know the contestants strengths and flaws etc. Corrine set her own agenda on how she wanted to be portrayed on the programme. I don’t think that really happened in such an obvious way before her. During Arie’s series we had Demi, and so now we have contestants going on there to seek the most air time possible and those who are manipulated etc. who attract attention, but not necessarily of their own wanting or making. Chad would largely come under this edit, he really shouldn’t have gone nor have been allowed to go on the show at all. He was the producers puppet and play thing. 🙁