We’re down to the final two episodes. As I said last week, this season has been crazy. Not even necessarily just in the spoiler world, but just overall in general. Very bizarre season for me and information gathering. Nothing I can get too much into detail with, but just trust me on this one. So tonight starts the two-part finale, and there is no ATFR tomorrow night. What does that mean? We don’t know. Whatever the outcome, I’m sure we will get some update on what’s happened post show. But due to COVID, I guess they figured doing a live ATFR was out of the question. Could have something to do with how everything ends up, could not. We just don’t know. Maybe they’ll address it after the fact. But as I’ve said all season, Tayshia got screwed on her end in every way. No travel, brought in late, cast was for Clare, less time with them, no “real” hometowns, etc. All just felt very rushed. But hey, what do they care? For the first time in I believe franchise history, a new season starts only two weeks after one ends. So their focus will immediately turn to Matt’s season after Tuesday night, I can promise you that. This “Bachelorette” season will be an afterthought starting Wednesday or so.
Lets get to tonight’s episode spoilers…
-Before she begins her overnight dates, Tayshia has a talk with JoJo to discuss her final 3 guys. The order of the overnights is Ivan, Zac, then Brendan.
-Ivan has the first overnight. During the day portion, Ivan and Tayshia get in an ice bath and try to set the World Record for longest kiss in an ice bath. They end up setting the record.
During the night portion, he tells her he’s falling in love with her, Tayshia reciprocates the feelings, and they spend the night together.
-Zac has the second overnight. During the day portion, they end up painting each other. During the night portion, Zac tells her he’s in love with her, Tayshia reciprocates the feelings, and they spend the night together.
-Brendan has the last overnight. During the day portion, they try on rings with Neil Lane and just look at an assortment of diamonds. This was clearly done to drive into Brendan’s head and make him uneasy about possibly proposing in a few days.
At night, Brendan eliminates himself. He said he thought he was ready for an engagement, but realizes he’s still broken from his divorce. He leaves.
-The next day, Rachel comes to talk to Tayshia about her final 2 men. Rachel talks about how when you’re down to the final two, you start thinking of those you let go. Tayshia brings up Ben because, well, we know why she does.
As Tayshia is getting ready for the rose ceremony, Ben shows up at her door. They talk, he tells her he’s in love with her, and the episode ends with Tayshia leaving Ben on the couch while she goes and talks to producers.
So what I was told before the season started and what I reported ended up being true. Brendan self eliminated. I just didn’t know if it was at #4 or #3. Now we know that info was correct. There will be no spoilers before tomorrow night’s episode, so what I wrote last week still stands. I do not know how this season ends up. Before the season I spoiled that Tayshia chose Zac, there was no engagement, and I didn’t know the status of their relationship. I mean, I’d be shocked if Ben meets her parents and gets to final 2, but who knows? And I know she doesn’t pick Ivan. So it looks like that info I was given has a good chance of playing out, I just don’t have the greatest confidence in it. And as for whatever the ending was, is it still where we’re at right now? I don’t know. Considering most things I was told before the season that I spoiled ended up being right, I guess I would be surprised if Tayshia didn’t pick Zac in the end. It just makes no sense to pick Ben, and I know she didn’t pick Ivan.
But that’s what you’ll see happen tonight and tomorrow will certainly be interesting.
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adelina
December 21, 2020 at 1:54 PM
Ben comes back. Apologizes for wearing so many scoop neck tees and promises to give all 50 of them to Goodwill. Goodwill refuses to take such awful tees because no man should ever wear a scoop neck tee – especially men who have necks the same width as their heads. The End. Scene.
ladyjane747
December 21, 2020 at 2:14 PM
Ha, ha, Adelina, that made me laugh. So, does this mean the “spoiler” Steve hinted at before that Brendan and Tayshia start dating post-show is incorrect? Zac just doesn’t seem like her type. What a crappy, low budget season. Tayshia did get the shaft.
justsaying
December 21, 2020 at 2:34 PM
I stand my ground. Ivan is the only choice here.
Why do women pick a guy who can’t commit, who doesn’t have the balls to say I-love-u or full of baggage?? Why?? Nuff said.
unlisted
December 21, 2020 at 7:06 PM
How could any woman pick an ex-drug addict to marry, one whose job is addiction-related?
I’m sorry, but however “reformed” he may be, that’s still in his past…and his present.
And how bizarre that it didn’t come up at all, at least not on camera!
jeepers
December 21, 2020 at 7:41 PM
Are you freaking kidding me, unlisted? Seriously? So what you are basically saying is people can’t change, that they are always their past mistakes? Wow! I guess that means since you are the biggest toolbag douchecanoe right now, you will still be that in 11 years? Sad for you
jeepers
December 21, 2020 at 7:44 PM
By the way, every. Dang. Person on the planet has “baggage”. Its called a past and mistakes. Aint nobody perfect. Thankfully ourselves and our baggage can be loved, regardless.
adelina
December 21, 2020 at 7:53 PM
Hey @unlisted – people who have a substance use disorder are typically people who found a very reasonable solution to the pain of trauma, loneliness, depression, anxiety or physical pain.
Once experimental or recreational use falls down the rabbit hole of an addiction it’s really hard to crawl out. There’s so much shame in addition to the dependence. People need to be met with love, compassion and kindness. It’s the stigma that keeps people isolating and in the shadows. Everyone has a story. Zac has clearly done some real work and deserves to be anybody he wants to be. I’m not into him, but that has nothing to do with his substance use. He is not his past or his worst moment.
grets94
December 21, 2020 at 11:56 PM
This whole Ben scenario feels contrived. First off, he shows up two days later, presumably from *outside the bubble.*. He is no longer part of their quarantine, yet he starts a convo with Chris, unmasked, like.it’s no biggie. I can only assume they rapid Covid tested him or something of that nature.
Logistics of quarantine aside, it’s daylight when his brief convo with Chris goes down. How come Chris didn’t give Tayshia the courtesy of a heads up, before she got dressed to the nines for her rose ceremony later that night? That’s just ridiculous. She could have made the decision if she even wanted to hear him out. I get they had regrets about how they left things earlier, but it could have been handled much better. I don’t know…it just feels off. She had every right to be upset…
justsaying
December 22, 2020 at 7:12 AM
Every dang person has baggage?? Speak for yourself and don’t project it onto others.
justsaying
December 22, 2020 at 7:17 AM
There are past mistakes like Tayshia or Brendan’s or pasts like Ivan’s and then, there are baggages. Makes sense?
slpjaimek
December 22, 2020 at 8:12 AM
Call me crazy but I think Steve’s 1st spoiler was correct. I think she sends Ivan home this “week.” I think she takes Ben to the final 2 then picks Zac. In the preview she is sitting with Ivan in the clothes he wore to the rose ceremony. That’s the “last talk” bench. I’m just guessing but it would make sense with his 1st spoiler. ?????
ladyjane747
December 22, 2020 at 8:26 AM
Wow, so nobody who has made mistakes in their past, including addiction or alcoholism, deserves to find love? Look at Craig from Bachelor Nation whom Steve interviewed about his cocaine addiction. He’s recovered and had found love. Does he not deserve that? Or should addicts just date each other. Look at Ivan’s brother; does that mean he doesn’t deserve love? Look at Brendan’s divorce, Ben’s eating disorders and suicide attempts. People who recover are stronger for it. Maybe you could never trust someone who had addictions, but other people can and do. And how could you say it wasn’t mentioned? Zac went into a whole painful discussion of his addiction. Having said all that, I still hope she ends up with Brendan in the end. 🙂
justsaying
December 22, 2020 at 9:47 AM
Take this opinion for what it’s worth, I don’t recommend dating people with baggages of addiction, violence, substance, mental issues. Heck I don’t even recommend cheaters to my friends. Call me crazy
dbla31
December 22, 2020 at 10:33 AM
“Justsaying” you better believe every person has baggage. Some are just more self-aware than others. Clearly you fall in that latter category. Oh, and what you downplay as Brendan’s “mistakes” (bulimia, multiple suicide attempts) are considered mental issues. Just because you apparently like him doesn’t make them any less so.
justsaying
December 22, 2020 at 11:56 AM
Dbla31, I like Ivan. I believe Ben is the one with bulimia and mental health issues. I don’t like him as he can’t even say I-love-u until it’s too late.
My only “baggage” is my college boyfriend cheated on me so very long ago. I am thankful for that all the time though lol
thereisn0try
December 22, 2020 at 12:18 PM
@grets94 – Ben never left quarantine, he was there the whole time, and the reason they had him go at that moment while she was getting ready for the rose ceremony was all designed by the producers. As are most things on this show. But we watch it anyway because it’s fun (or a train wreck, depends on the day)
Chiming in to say it seems like this Unlisted person is just being a troll or is, idk, 16 years old. If I hadn’t been an addict in the past and entered a recovery program I never would have met my husband 🙂 (I’m 4 years sober, he’s 8)
Stephanie
December 22, 2020 at 12:56 PM
I’m also in recovery! Almost three years sober with a beautiful two year old! I lost my husband to an overdose while I was 7 weeks pregnant and found sobriety through it all. I hate to think how people will look at me when I finally put myself back out there to date explaining my past.
havetosay
December 23, 2020 at 6:21 AM
@justsaying – I have 4 years in recovery today and you can not be more off base. I (and other people in recovery) have probably done far more work on themselves than you can possibly realize. More people in this world need to do self-work and have forgiveness, self-awareness and understanding. Mistakes can happen, it is how you pick yourself up and deal with it afterwards that really defines who you are as a person.
idontcare
December 29, 2020 at 1:04 PM
9/10 addicts will relapse. My hubby did after 15 years and 4 kids. My life was completely ruined as well as our children’s. Good luck with addicts. I will never even consider one date with one.