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“Reader Emails,” BIP Reunion Finale “Spoilers,” & Leo Being Leo Again

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Hi Steve!

I am quite new to your site and Bachelor franchise but here I am, first time writing to you. Greetings all the way from Poland!

Congratulations on your new dog! I hope you and Luka will get along great and have wonderful time together.

Some people might let you know by now that Bibiana was not only instructed to give Colton a rose but beforehand she had promised giving it to Wills. At least it is his view on that. It doesn’t show her in a good light though.

This season of BIP is really anticlimactic for me. In previous seasons there were couples I was excited about and wanted them to succeed after the show. This year despite the number of engagements at the end it feels different but not in a good way. We’ve heard sooooo many times in Becca’s season as well in Paradise women saying ”he is a good guy” about everyone while I have problems in selecting one which is. Jordan whose behaviour is insulting and childish? Chris with his worthless promises? Colton changing his mind so many times? Leo with his attitude towards women? David- proud to be mama’s boy who only enjoys teasing Jordan? Kenny with his unclear intensions? I can go on and you have much more stories which put them in even worse light. Therefore I am extremely irritated by misuse of this phrase.

The lack of logic in behaviour and words of Chris, Jordan and many more contestants in Paradise makes me question the humanity. It just doesn’t make any sense. Because of your insight and comments I realized I am not the only one seeing that so thank you for that. I agree with a lot of this. I think the spoiled people aren’t finding this season entertaining because the people they know get engaged aren’t people they care to have a happy ending – Chris & Jordan. If Joe & Kendall got engaged, people would love that. Chris & Jordan aren’t coming across as likable and I think that plays a major role into why the spoiled don’t seem to care.

Do you have any idea how many more episodes we will see Tia-Colton drama? I am so tired of this that I don’t have words. I don’t know what Colton’s deal is. What is happening with them right now? Nothing. They’re friends. Not dating.

I get why comparing Ashley and Jared to Colton-Tia situation is annoying for you. In my opinion A&J relationship (if really genuine) is the exception that proves the rule.

I really enjoy your podcasts. Recently I listened to the one with Jason&Cortney Carrion from „Married at first sight” and I loved it. They seams genuine, kind and funny. Regarding MAFS franchise – have you tuned in to watch Season 7? There is some major drama with arrest of one of the newlyweds. In podcast you said that after season 1 there was no much success in this show. And whilst I agree I want to let you know there is one couple from season 5 still married and another expecting pair from season 6. I’ve never watched MAFS outside of season 1.

Podcast #100 is coming so I decided to share my little idea with you. I know there was a podcast with you but it was some time ago. Many fans (including me) would like to have you answer questions about podcasts and its backroom (Here are some examples – what was your favourite guest(s)? Who surpised you the most in a good/bad way? Who would you like to have on podcast but you cannot? Do you regret having someone as a guest? If possible, will you have Becca on?)
I get that Q&A live podcasts are usually chaotic and not easy to listen to, so questions might be sent before recording to put them in order. Let me know what you think about it ?

I appreciate your work and opinions. Thanks for what you do!

Comment: Interesting idea for #100. Can’t say I’m gonna do it, but I wouldn’t rule it out. We’ll see.
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Totally random question but do you know if grocery Joe did any child acting? I was just at my kid’s school watching a mandatory video for 3rd graders about “tricky people” and what kids should be on the lookout for. There was a “Yellow Dino” kids band, and the older boy on drums looked strikingly like Grocery Joe. Might not have been him but it was pretty uncanny.

Comment: I have no idea.
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Hey Steve, big fan!

I’ve been listening to some of your older interviews with Josiah and Kenny from Rachel’s season and a few other random ones. I’ve noticed a lot of alums talking about who they were in the limo with on night one, and it seems like they bond quickly with these people and maintain these loyalty throughout the show.

Ive also watched unreal, and I know in the show they grouped the girls by likeliness to win (not sure now they phrased it, but I remember something like a limo with all the top producer picks for front runners).

My question is, is there any truth to that limo grouping in unreal? Is there any significance to the limos the contestants are put into?

Not sure if you’ve heard any thing about this! Thanks either way!

Comment: I really don’t think so other than they will always have a front runner exit first and/or last. Whether it’s shown that way is a different deal, but they try for it.
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Hi Steve

I live in New Zealand and have been reading your site for a number of years. I am watching the current season of Bachelor in Paradise and (like so many others) wanted to get your view on a potential candidate for The Bachelor. It seems like Jason has strong support but do you think thI franchise would consider making Eric the new Bachelor? He has been on Winter Games and is on Paradise. Although the last few episodes have been dominated by the Tia/Colton drama it will be interesting to see what edit Eric gets over the next few episodes.

Thanks

Comment: No. It will be one of Becca’s guys I’m pretty sure, most likely Jason or Blake.
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Hi Steve,

I’ve never written in before so I don’t know if the timing of this is question is good because your reader emails just went up yesterday but… Someone asked a question about Nick and Chelsea still being together, which is what I originally thought was the case. But I went back to look at the BIP spoilers and saw that John and Chelsea were there for the final rose ceremony and did the overnight date together. First of all, Venmo John (because I ship it)? And did they just have a thing on the show and then just break up shortly after and then she got together with Nick? So confused.

Thanks for doing the lord’s work. Much luv.

Comment: Pretty much. Who knows how serious their dating is since she has a son in Maine she isn’t moving away from.
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Hey Steve. Congrats on adopting Luka! Chris Randone. WTF? He posted on IG that long apology for the way he acted on BIP and said he doesn’t disrespect women. Then he took it down because he obviously got a lot of hate. I just want to get this straight. So Men Tell All Is filmed after Paradise right? And his whole apology chorus to Becca was after BIP? I guess this means Krystal made him a changed man and after BIP and Bachelor he realized he was a douche? I guess. But yes, that apology was after he’d returned from BIP filming.

Do you know if we will see some of that “character development” on BIP? Chris as a reformed disrespector of women? Are he and Krystal still together and engaged? After Paradise will just be another Randone Redemption attempt like Men Tell All. Krystal isn’t the villain on BIP that she was portrayed on Arie’s season but I don’t see her being much help to rehab his reputation. It all seems too little too late.

Comment: Yes, they’re still engaged. I think Chris thinks he was redeemed this season because he got engaged. I think a lot of fans beg to differ.
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I think it’s ridiculous Colton got another date card – obviously we
all know why – I’m just so tired of the Tia/Colton drama and glad it’s
coming to an end.

When it comes to date cards, aside from incoming people getting date
cards, there should be cards up for grabs with some kind of competition. A little throwback to Bachelor Pad but not including allthe immunity/money aspect of it.They keep saying they’re gonna change things up and maybe go to more of a competition aspect and they never do. Ever.

The editing only shows the cast sitting around either eating, feet in
the pool/hot tub, or laying on a day bed/lounge chair. I would like to see competitions like a 3 legged race, egg toss, who can eat the most guacamole in 30 seconds (they seem to eat a lot of guac there), etc just to liven the place up a bit. The winners could get a mini-date card or fantasy suite card. I’m sure they can fit this into the 4 hours of edited content per week….

Comment: Or how about this real winner of competition from Bachelor Pad. Remember this doozy?

About as insulting as you can get. Not one of their finer moments needless to say. Can you imagine the shit they’d get now if they tried that? Forget it.
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Hi Steve!

Two questions:

1: Who is Rusev? Lol A WWE wrestler from Bulgaria (or that’s where the character is from)

2: Maybe you’ve answered this before but how much money does Chris Harrison make per episode to say “Ladies/Gentlemen, Lead, this is the final rose tonight. Whenever you’re ready?” I figure it’s a lot and with all the travelling… I want his job ?

Comment: When the Sony hacks happened, it got posted in some email that made the rounds that I believe it said he was making $60k an episode. And that was what, 5 years ago? I’m sure it’s more now.
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Hi Steve,

Longtime reader, first time emailer.

With regard to the race to be the next Bachelor, do you see a clear front runner? I know it’s hard to tell because of the stunts they pulled choosing Nick and Arie the last two seasons. Do you think anyone on Paradise is a strong contender? (especially considering they chose Nick because of his performance on BiP)

Thanks for everything you do!

Comment: No. I think it’ll be Jason or Blake. I’ve been saying since Becca’s season I’d be surprised if wasn’t one of them or Ben, and now we know Ben is out of the running. I expect it to be one of those two. I don’t think they’re going back and pulling an old school alumni again.
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Hey Steve,

In your podcast with Bri, you mentioned 7 of the 8 girls who went home the first night started The Rose Girls. Who was the 8th one? Any idea why she didn’t do it? Thanks!

Comment: Amber Wilkerson (IG: everyonceinastyle). Not sure why she wasn’t involved.
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Dear Steve,

Thank you for always making your recaps satirical and sarcastic! It makes watching BIP a bit less agonizing. I have a few questions about some current casting rumors in bachelor nation.

1. I saw that Blake Horstmann has been posting things about dancing and seemed to be in California during this past week. Is he a likely candidate for DWTS? No.

2. Have you heard about any other people who are being seriously considered for the bachelor besides Jason and Blake? Possibly Colton, but I think he’s a long shot. Or the dark horse in all this.

3. Have you heard about any other couples who may possibly get engaged at the Live After Paradise show? Nobody did. It was pretty uneventful.

4. Olivia who is going to be with John at the end of paradise was from Arie’s season?

Thank you

Comment: Yes. She was one of the first eliminatees and one of the Rose girls.
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Hey Steve,

Leo seems to be digging his grave all on his own. I think Kendall hit it spot on by calling him out for trying to mess with her head. But seriously, doesn’t his explosive reaction just prove how badly he wanted to cover it up? If Leo intended to tell her anyway, and didn’t feel like he had done anything wrong, why didn’t he just apologise that she had to find out that way and then explain himself calmly? He makes zero sense. Clinging to some integrity card about not ‘snitching’ seems pretty weird as well. Dead on. His defensiveness only proved he knew he was in the wrong, got caught, and didn’t know what to do.

A random question: when they show a drone shot of Paradise, there are a bunch of huts along the beach. Do you know if they rent the whole stretch out? Otherwise couldn’t members of the public snoop around pretty easily? Sorry if you’ve answered this already. They keep it pretty separated from the rest of the public. I mean, it’s been 5 seasons and I’ve never seen any pictures come from people staying close. Only pics are from people on dates, not at the resort.

Also, how many crew members would you guess are on set, if you had to take a stab? Those huts look pretty big just to house 15 cast members in bunks, even if you added, say, a few producers and camera crew, and used a couple of rooms for ITMs. I remember UnReal made it look like there were a couple hundred at the mansion, with all these trailers etc parked out back.

Cheers and keep up the awesome work! Love your beautiful new dog, please keep us updated.

Comment: Crew stays back in a hotel about 45 min away. They aren’t in the huts.
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Hi Steve,

I’ve written before for Dr. Reality Steve and you actually used my email. I forget why, but I remember your advice was validating and on point, and all is well. So congrats, good doctor!

More of an observation about BIP…. I feel like this season was majorly hyped up, but it is by far the worst season of BIP in terms of producer driven drama, casting and lack of interactions of the cast divulging their sorrows to the bartender (Wells). I wonder if Yuki, who is amusing but serves no real purpose, changed that dynamic? Yeah, having a bartender, let alone two this season, seems pointless. Wells has done nothing of note all season.

I also feel that perhaps this season’s cast was too much saturation of current castoffs of Bachelor/Bachelorette, instead of the original premise which seemed to be fan favorites across multiple seasons. I know the ratings started on point, but would have to look at your previous columns to see how viewership is this season. Your thoughts?

Comment: Cast has always been made up mostly of the most recent seasons. That’s not just this season. Look back at the rest of the casts. Same deal. I think the biggest thing honestly this season? There aren’t a ton of likable people.

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  1. katieottawa

    August 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM

    you know what i rarely post about this show mainly because i dont care about any of these people and i forget about it 5 secs after watching it. but i felt compelled to write here that i am more supportive of the men than the women on this season.

    personally i found the men to be much more serious, loyal and genuine to the women they were interested in than the women who seemed to care more about the attention of multiple men on them and playing games.

    jordan. you can tell he is interested in jenna. it was a done deal for him, right after he went to the other girl he was seeing before and was upfront with her. the rest of the time he was only about her. shes the one who decided to play games with benoit. he may have his flaws but i think he deserves better. she isnt serious about him which in a way i feel bad for him. shes going to hurt him.

    joe. nice guy but dude needs to grow a set of balls and tell that kendall girl to take a hike. way too nice. she doesnt deserve him. im not defending the leo guy as he was over the top rude but talk about the pot calling the kettle black. she got mad that he kissed someone else while she herself kissed joe afterwards and kept joe as backup and THEN kissed venmo guy. i guess whatever she was calling him out for doesnt apply to her for some reason??? also she said in an itm ” i feel like i owe it to him” really?? dude dump her. do you want to be with some chick who feels like she owes it to you to be with you?? youre popular now youll have girls lining up at your grocery store. find someone else.

    chris. sure he was a dbag at first but when he made his feelings known to krystal you could tell he was serious about her yet she decided to go and date the other dude and make out with him.

    the only couple who seemed semi decent was kevin and astrid.

    everyone else was just desperate to pair up with somebody just for the sake of pairing up. pretty sad.

    i just found it odd this time it was the women who were noncommittal and cheating on the guys they had established relationships with.

    but since realitysteve has become a feminist im guessing hell give them all a pass and only focus on the men who acted like dbags.

    I am not defending the leo dude but why is steve defending the amanda girl??. girl started it herself when she decided to take a jab at him on social media. im sorry what?? he isnt allowed to defend himself and reply back?? are women no longer able to be called out now and be put back in their place?? she went looking for it.

    i do agree with him on the part of the detrimental effect it can have on his livelihood. Are we at a point where people are no longer able to earn a living because he told a girl off on tv and because there are unproven gossip stories about him online. Even if he was playing girls back then does it mean the guy needs to be homeless living on the street and have everything hes worked for taken away???

    For people who are so caring about illegals and criminals whove done way worst come across the border and say they deserve shelter and work you sure have a different attitude about someone who called a girl out on tv. So illegals are victims and deserve everything even though probably a good percentage of them treat women worse than what weve seen with this guy but this guy deserves to lose everything, his house, his job and essentially to become homeless.

    get a clue people

  2. tinyred500

    August 29, 2018 at 10:52 AM

    I can’t say I disagree with you. SM playing its ugly part once again too I might add.

    I haven’t seen Monday or last night’s episode’s yet and I wondered what all the fuss was about with Leo. I read RS blog and I looked up the scene on YouTube, I rolled my eyes over the amount of fuss people have made of that one scene. Leo is far, far from perfect and has some issues which are pretty indefensible, but I took RS over reaction the same way you did. The reaction of RS, Amanda and Tanner, anyone could be lead to believe it was gross or terrible behaviour that was punishable by law. Amanda’s comment was way off, and this is woman who got engaged to Josh M! I noticed Ashley S adding her tuppence worth and stirring that ole pot again, sadly, not unexpected either. SMH

    People need to own their actions and that includes the women who have taken part in these shows too; the men aren’t all to blame. BIP has become a slutfest and that’s not anything the franchise should be proud of.

  3. rob22

    August 29, 2018 at 11:30 AM

    I wonder sometimes if people can distinguish between people who are boorish jerks (Leo) and someone that’s actually sexually assaulted someone (Lincoln). The reaction almost seems the same. Look, if a guy like Leo goes on a reality show and acts a fool (really in not a different way than Jordan did more than once) there’s going to be a degree of blow back. If you go on the show, you deserve what you get. But I honestly don’t see that much difference between the criticism on social media of Leo and Lincoln. Meanwhile, Jordan seems to be getting a pass. It’s not like Jordan is so likeable either. So, I really don’t get it. I guess it’s just an outrage fest on social media that’s always turned up to high, regardless of the offense.

  4. tinyred500

    August 29, 2018 at 12:16 PM

    @robb, the problem is indeed that too many on SM (and the like), cannot tell the difference from boorish idiotic behaviour and (potentially) criminal behaviour. The level of hysteria and outrage is pretty much equal for both scenarios. If it was a female who had behaved in the same manner, would there be the same outrage? I don’t think so. There lies another problem. As a female I’m appalled and offended by so many women now. 🙁

  5. katieottawa

    August 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM

    i mean he came off like a jerkoff but i dont disagree with everything he said and did. after his make out date with kendall he took some other girl aside and made out with her. wasnt the most honorable thing to do right after you had your tongue jammed in someone elses throat the whole day and i disagree with him making a big deal about kevin telling her but when kendall went to call him out i agreed with him for calling her out on doing the exact same thing she was accusing him of doing. maybe he came off a bit rude but there is such a double standard. tia called out chris last week and kept swearing at him…how is that any different??? yet people were applauding tia for not putting up with chris bs. then yes leo was out of line when he left when he called kendall out again and everyone out and called joe grocery bitch and threw water on him.

    but for the amanda girl to hope the guy got fired i think is over the top. she was worried about taking her kids so what was she insinuating here??? i think it borders on defamation to accuse someone of being dangerous or will somehow abuse her kids. These people need to tread lightly with their accusations and gossip/comments. Just because a guy is a jerk doesnt mean the guy deserves to be shunned from society and unable to earn a living and have a job. Look at garrett they made such a big deal over nothing like what he did was as serious as a crime and still now even though hes apologized people keep bringing it up like the guy doesnt deserve love or a girlfriend. These people need to get a grip on themselves.

    also benoit ecoute. partir sans dire au revoir a personne etait deplaisant. comme canadiens francais on est mieux que ca. et puis pleurer dans la voiture apres??? vraiment??? je t’avais trouve fin a winter games mais la c’etait ridicule. De courir les americaines anglophones quand tu es francophone et que tu restes a montreal est ridicule. Les filles ne feront pas de la longue distance pour un gars de montreal voyons. Il y a plein de filles a montreal pareil comme toi qui ferait l’affaire. ton stint a l’emission ne t’as pas avantage du tout

  6. rob22

    August 29, 2018 at 12:54 PM

    Haha. Love the French. I was able to translate some of it from memory of the language… hardly use it anymore, unfortunately. At one point I had to learn because I had a group with a French Cajun, a Belgian and a French Canadian that loved to speak French, although obviously their dialects were different. So, I can kinda sorta keep up.

    Bottom line though: there’s no special shame for the French Canadians. Every nationality & region is poorly represented on this show. Obviously Kevin’s crying in the car was an embarrassment to him. But I don’t think anyone thinks he’s representative of French Canadians. You’re probably right, though, that few Americans are going to relocate or do a long distance relationship to Montreal. But I’m sure Kevin, like the others, was mostly doing it for the cash and prizes, including a nice free vacation on the beach.

  7. tinyred500

    August 29, 2018 at 2:05 PM

    I most certainly wouldn’t judge any nation by the type of contestants participating in a dating reality show! 😉

    In Britain we have far worse programmes that manage to reach new levels of social and moral degradation – ‘Love Island’…is to be avoided at all cost! The type of individual’s who appear on that…are a certain ‘type’ of their own! Lol

  8. katieottawa

    August 29, 2018 at 2:07 PM

    im french canadian. although unlike him im fully bilingual. he has a hard time speaking in english. he tries but you can tell hes thinking about every word. another tidbit i heard vanessa “nicks exfiance” on a quebec radio interview in french last year and I remember the show painted her as being bilingual filming her talking to her students in french but her french was very limited and broken. she kept inserting english words when she coudlnt think of the french word and eventually just resorted to answering the rest of the questions in english by the end. you can tell she primarily speaks english. i was very surprised.

    yeah basically i said he came off much better on winter games than on here albeit a bit desperate with the whole clare engagement thing. found it rude that he just left without saying goodbye to anyone. canadians are polite. oh im sure he is doing it for the money and the recognition/fame. that was sort of my point he came off very disingenuous. just going after one girl after the other and then getting all upset. realistically no one is thinking any of these girls are going to choose him to have a long distance relationship with him. hes just too different. kevin sure, hes english its an easier transition but benoit is just too different as far as language, background goes to really fit with any contestant from this show.

    seriously it was an embarrassment. and the whole french suave thing is complete BS. most of quebec men are very verbally sexually direct and explicit and vulgar, huge players and SUPER CHEAP. Expect them to always ask for discounts or to get you to pay most of the bill, they cant help themselves.

  9. adelina

    August 30, 2018 at 11:46 AM

    Leo is a d-bag and that’s pretty much all he’s guilty of.

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