Reality Steve

Bachelor in Paradise 5

Episode 5 of the “He Said, She Said” Podcast with Ashley Spivey

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Well, I had my first successful weekend away from Luka this past weekend. Somewhat. The good thing is the doggy resort said she was great for her first time, and in the times I checked in on her on their doggy cams, she certainly looked like she was having fun. She made a whole bunch of new friends and there was another beagle there that looked exactly like her, which kept getting me confused. With that said, she was at the resort from Wed thru Sat, then my sister picked her up and she stayed at my house with her and my niece on Saturday, then my brother-in-law stayed with her Sunday night before I came back yesterday. What’s weird is I told you every time I come home, Luka is begging and scratching to get out of the crate because it’s like I’ve been gone a year whether it’s been a few hours or 10 minutes. But when I walked in yesterday, she just looked at me. Didn’t make any noises or nothing. Then as I approached the crate to let her out, it’s like she was in fear. I don’t think she recognized me right away and looked a bit in fear. Took a while to set in it was me. Ultimately she was fine, but it was definitely a little weird that she was confused, I think, of who I was after not seeing me for 5 days.

As for Vegas, one of my best weekends ever. Could’ve been even better than that if somehow the Browns/Steelers game doesn’t combine for 6 TD’s in a downpour all game. What a bizarre game. That was for sure a kick to the nuts. Regardless, if you’ve never stayed at the Venetian in Vegas, you should. Different strokes for different folks obviously, and this isn’t any sort of ad for them, I just think for my money, it’s the best hotel on the strip. Great dining, best sportsbook, nicest table dealers – all around, just a fun hotel to be at and that’s why next season for the 5th Annual Fan Appreciation Party, even though the actual party is at the Rio, I’ll be staying at the Venetian, and anyone interested in a room discount it will from that hotel. I’ll know those discounts as we get into 2019, but just know in case you haven’t stayed there, it’ll be a little more expensive than Mandalay Bay just because the rooms are bigger. But trust me, it’s worth it.

Don’t forget Nell Kalter’s “Floribama Shore” episode 10 recap is now up for your reading pleasure. The season is winding down, but Nell is just getting revved up. See what I did there? Also, this is the last week of “Reader Emails” and “Dr. Reality Steve” for the rest of the calendar year, so get in any questions that you have today and tomorrow. Once next week starts, the plan is to bring “Daily Links” back to have reading material while spoiling Colton’s season. Not sure if it’ll be every day, but I’ll try and keep up on it better than I have the past couple off seasons.

Speaking of Colton’s season, as I told you last week, filming begins next Thursday night the 20th. I was told Colton was filming some of his intro package at the Chargers/Chiefs game this past weekend at the Stub Hub Center in Carson, CA. Also, apparently today he will be filming some of his intro package in Colorado at Angelo’s Taverna and the Carboy Winery. As far as the women go, I’ll be releasing some of them next week, so stay tuned for that. Got a lot of them already. Most I’ve ever had to start a season, so I just need some time to put together their basic profiles of age, city, job, college, pictures, and social media accounts. Doesn’t seem like much, but it’s a tad time consuming, especially when I didn’t do any work this past weekend.

And because I didn’t do any work this weekend, I completely blanked on putting together episode 5 of the “He Said, She Said” podcast with Ashley Spivey until about 1:30am last night. Procrastination is fun, isn’t it? Anyway, it’s finally here for you:

In Episode 5, Ashley and I start off by discussing the selection of Colton as the “Bachelor.” Then Mallory in North Carolina calls in to discuss recently having lost her virginity to a guy that ended up ghosting her (9:26). After that, Danielle in Canada comes on to discuss a topic that came up in an episode a few weeks back that I was looking for feedback on, which was how people deal with in-laws when they have kids and both sets of parents want time with their grandkids (34:09). Original theme music provided by Kate Bass and the song is titled “Blink.”

If you want to be a part of a future “He Said, She Said” podcast, be sure to email myself and/or Ashley, let us know your Skype screen name, what time zone you’re in, and when’s the best time you can record, and we’ll work something out. This has been a lot of fun to do and we appreciate all the calls we’ve been getting. We’re both amazed at some of the strength and courage people have to talk about some of the most private and sometimes intense issues people have. We just hope we can help in some way.

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  1. marcommom

    September 12, 2018 at 7:37 AM

    I rarely comment but this situation is disturbing. These two people, Jordan and Jenna, are either fools, terrible people, or completely innocent – or one is innocent, one is guilty, one is a fool, one is evil and manipulative, etc.
    I’d suggest RS get a PHOTO of the phone showing the texts to ensure it’s not a photoshopped graphic. Because if all this is fake, and RS was played, the implications could be significant.

  2. hastings

    September 12, 2018 at 7:38 AM

    Iphones autocorrect Prince to Princess. You have to be very persistent to change it.

  3. mewey

    September 12, 2018 at 8:35 AM

    Right. So what I’m saying is, try changing one of your contacts. Delete everything out of the last name field. Then go to a text from that person and you’ll see that the little bubble is gone, and the contact name is bigger and looks exactly the same style as it does in these screenshots. It’s not a matter of different iOS versions. It’s a matter of how you choose to enter a contact name into your phone.

  4. jlal

    September 12, 2018 at 11:49 AM

    I don’t understand why it is so hard for everyone to accept that Jenna is a manipulator.

  5. missmec0399

    September 12, 2018 at 3:30 PM

    I have a question about the “good morning handsome” text message. The time is one minute apart from the other screenshots and the battery life is the exact same, Reality Steve can you prove that these were sent on different dates? because if not then they are probably fake.

  6. corn29

    September 12, 2018 at 3:43 PM

    2 wrongs don’t make a right but I’m actually okay with this. Jordan is a world class jerk. The way he spoke to Benoit last night was deplorable. He treats people horribly. This is just karma for him.

    Happy to see Jordan get his comeuppance! Well earned and deserved!

  7. megane1486

    September 12, 2018 at 3:50 PM

    I know you must have seen other proof and know this guy didn’t just didn’t make
    Someone’s name in his phone Jenna cooper and have this fake conversation, but can you eleborate on how you actually know this came from her phone? I absolutely believe this because of Jordan’s reaction I’m just curious to know what the proof is it was her from her phone number.

  8. dwwatchesreality

    September 12, 2018 at 5:22 PM

    For what it is or isn’t worth …

    I checked and my screen shows up with the other person’s name at top just like in the captures. My battery life doesn’t change every few minutes if I don’t have a lot of other things open, either.

    It didn’t auto correct to princess on my test, but it definitely supplied the option. Could easily have swiped it by mistake.

    Basically, there is nothing in those shots that is clearly “off.” Nothing.

  9. dwwatchesreality

    September 12, 2018 at 5:27 PM

    Also, I do feel really bad for Jordan. He may not be my cup of tea, but his smitten kitten reaction to Jenna seemed very real and was quite adorable. I hope hope hope he started to have some doubts as he got to know her, or was in this for his “business” as well, but I don’t think that is true; I’ve seen guys flip like that before, and what I’ve seen on TV with Jordan has been pretty steady to pattern. Hard to ever be sure with this show, but I feel really, really bad for him.

  10. supersparklyday

    September 12, 2018 at 9:31 PM

    I feel SO bad for Jordan. He’s not a good enough actor to have faked all that; but I think that Jenna sure is. If she did this for her “social media” business,it backfired ! Now everyone will hate her and she’ll have few friends in Bachelor Nation.

    I also have to say that I agree with the poster who says Jenna could be a Dominatrix. After reading her texts, and his about all these unexplained “meetings” with men, yeah, I can sure see it.

    I hope Jordan doesn’t emerge from this with alot of bitterness. He may not be fully mature yet, but he’s certainly on his way and this unfortunate episode will likely contribute to it.

  11. rainbowing123

    September 13, 2018 at 7:03 AM

    Those are the times when the screenshots were taken, not the time the texts were received 🙂

  12. dbla31

    September 13, 2018 at 7:21 AM

    To see what her “business” is, check out Rose Gold Club on FB and read the “about” section. She calls it marketing. It sounds like pimping yourself out to get free stuff, and she teaches other women to do the same. Wonder how many guys she was sending messages to of the type that got forwarded to RS, all in the name of “business.” I’m pretty sure the only state that business is legal in is Nevada.

  13. swimstar4712

    September 13, 2018 at 4:32 PM

    Stating “two wrongs don’t make a right” doesn’t justify your hypocritical statement. I fail to see how you wishing a horrible life-teeing breakup on someone makes you any better than Jordan. Look at your behavior in the mirror, it’s disgusting and childish.

  14. swimstar4712

    September 13, 2018 at 4:37 PM


  15. kimmyy1

    September 15, 2018 at 3:33 AM

    That is incorrect. These are the ACTUAL times of the post!

  16. kimmyy1

    September 15, 2018 at 3:42 AM

    As an engineer with a Very Well known cell phone company, these messages are 200% false. Believe what you will, but as an Engineer for the past 8 years, this is false!

  17. justchillin

    September 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM

    I could be wrong but wanted to point this out and see if there is an explanation.

    What stuck out to me is the fact that in the second to last screen shot there is a “Delivered” underneath the blue bubble. From my understanding in iMessage that appears only once per thread and only below the most recent iMessage sent. That means that the message ending in “…after my meeting?” Was the most recent message sent by the person who took the screen shot. If he were to have sent another iMessage after that then the “Delivered” would have been removed from beneath the “… after my meeting?” iMessage and moved beneath the newest iMessage (unless it was never delivered which is very rare in our day and age).

    However if you look at the bottom right of the last screen shot there is a slight blue hue. That happens in iOS when right beneath that spot/part of the iMessage thread there is a blue bubble (an iMessage from the person who is taking the screen shot). That would then mean the “Delivered” shoud be below that message and not below the message in the second to last screen shot.

    That stuck out to me as odd and figured I’d throw it out there and see if there’s a reasonable explanation I’m missing, which very well could be the case.

  18. jboudreau1129

    September 16, 2018 at 5:51 AM

    Also, did anyone notice the screen shot is in a white bubble? White bubble is not Jenna. Jenna’s text messages would be in a blue bubble.

  19. ijeoma

    September 18, 2018 at 7:55 AM

    I don’t know or care about Jenna but I know those screen shots are very fake. Doesn’t matter how you save someone’s name on your iphone, iMessage is supposed to have a picture icon with the persons picture or name initials. In that case there was supposed to be a JC above her name but there wasn’t on the screen shot so it’s obviously fake.

  20. jetfuel11

    September 20, 2018 at 12:02 PM

    100% agree with this. This is odd and suggests there is something off with these texts. In the last screenshot, the blue hue on the text entry bar means that the person who took the screenshot responded, likely with a short answer given the width of the blue hue (try scrolling through a conversation on an iPhone and you’ll see this blue hue over the responses). If that is the case, there should not be a ‘Delivered’ line under the response in the prior screenshot. That should only appear under the last sent text by the user, which this wasn’t. The blue hue on the last screenshot proves it. Based on this it makes it look like the other screenshots may be real but the last one seems fake.

  21. yomamalied

    September 23, 2018 at 2:35 PM

    Where are the date and time sent/received? Or were all of texts supposedly sent at the same time, i.e. the date/time is above the first message on the first screenshot?

  22. yomamalied

    September 23, 2018 at 2:46 PM

    Where are the dates and times that the texts were sent/received? Or were they all sent at the same time (date/time above the earliest text)?

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