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The Latest on the “Bachelor in Paradise” Situation Incl What DID Happen in the Three Days of Filming

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Before I get started on all the drama that happened over the weekend with “Bachelor in Paradise,” let me take this time to acknowledge the Fan Appreciation Party I threw in Las Vegas this past weekend. Our final head count ended up being 66 people, with only 3 no shows. I wanna thank everyone who came out on Friday night for a great time. It meant a lot you took the weekend to come out, especially John and Mandy Miller who decided to spend their anniversary weekend in Vegas because of the party. That was very cool and I hope you spent that money on a nice dinner. I will have the breakdown of the trivia contest results from the party for you tomorrow. It was pretty contested after the first place winners blew doors on everyone else. I know I said I’d made the contest easier this year, but I wasn’t expecting anyone to go 34 for 35. There were 15 total questions, but 35 points available, and the winning team only missed one – and even that could be disputed. But hey, they got $100 for their victory, and second place got $50. Will announce those winners tomorrow, along with the easiest and hardest questions based on answers, along with everything else you need to know. But thanks again to all those who came out, and we’ll do it again next year.

Obviously the biggest news of the weekend involved the “suspension of production on Bachelor in Paradise.” As I tweeted out, it’s been canceled. There’s zero chance of it airing this summer. There hasn’t been any filming for a week, all the contestants are home, and due to time constraints (you know, they have a premiere date of August 8th), there’s just not a chance they’re bringing everyone back to film and will have everything ready to go by the 8th. And it’s not as easy to say, “Well, lets just push back the premiere date” when you’re working with major network television. Doesn’t work that way. “Bachelor in Paradise” for 2017 is done as we know it. What does it mean for the future? I don’t know.

My guess right now on June 13th 2017 is that we will never see another “Bachelor in Paradise” show again. Doesn’t mean we can’t get a show next summer. I just don’t think it’ll be “Bachelor in Paradise.” Can I see them either A) going back to doing “Bachelor Pad” or B) coming up with a new concept and renaming the show? Yes. With “B” being the more likely option. Based on why filming was shut down and the reasoning behind it, “Bachelor in Paradise” will always be synonymous now with the words “sexual misconduct/assault,” and that’s why I believe the show title is going away. Not to mention that kinda goes hand-in-hand with this reasoning laid out yesterday. Basically, Mexico (and Playa Escondida) isn’t gonna want to be associated with the show anymore considering it’s all filmed on trade. We let you use our facility for 2 ½ weeks for 6 weeks of airtime on a major network. No way they want to continue that relationship after the negative publicity that has generated the last couple days. Might be tough finding ANYONE who will want to play ball with them with a “Bachelor in Paradise” title, which is why I believe they’ll dump that title and concept all together moving forward and think of a new summer show.

As for what’s happening with the “Bachelor Winter Games?” I don’t think anyone knows right now. Probably still too early to tell, but considering they haven’t even officially announced “Bachelor in Paradise” is cancelled, I doubt we’ll hear anything on “Bachelor Winter Games” anytime soon. By the way, “canceled” vs “cancelled” is driving me nuts. I’ve always thought it was “cancelled” until I saw a few stories writing “canceled.” So I decided to google it. Here’s what I got on how it’s spelled:

“…The answer depends on where you call home.

Canceled or cancelled is the past tense of the verb to cancel. Both spellings are correct; Americans favor canceled (one L), while cancelled (two Ls) is preferred in British English and other dialects. However, there is only one correct spelling of the word cancellation, no matter where you are. For a more in-depth explanation of spelling and the exceptions, keep reading.”

Great. My headache is gone now. I will rotate the spellings for the rest of my life now knowing they’re both correct.

The other big news coming up is Evan & Carly’s wedding which I told you last week is scheduled for this Saturday, the 17th. As of right now, I’ve been told it is still on. But with the way things are going, I’d say everything is up in the air right now. This wedding was supposed to be part of the “Bachelor in Paradise” season since it’s being filmed down in Mexico. Kinda like Marcus & Lacey’s was except, you know, this one is real and not just for TV. As of now it’s on, but I don’t rule anything out. Does this mean ABC will just give them their own 1 or 2 hr special? I don’t know. But since they have no summer programming right now to coincide with it, it’ll be interesting to see what happens to it and, if they go through with it, how exactly it’s shown to the audiences.

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  1. utesdad

    June 13, 2017 at 10:52 AM

    Unfortunately, the alleged Corrine/DeMario situation happens every day at colleges across the country.

    Girl and guy get drunk. There is no blatant “yes” for sexual contact, and no blatant “no” indicating either party wishes to stop. They have sexual contact. Once inebriation wears off, one party realizes things went further than they would have liked (for many different reasons: they found out the other was a scumbag, they have a BF/GF already, they simply regret it, etc). Charges for sexual assault are filed.

    Many times it’s a simple he said, she said. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion, once a person is thought of as a rapist, it sticks and destroys their life.

    Far too often men get permanently labeled as sex offenders, when in reality the woman simply later regretted letting it go that far.

    Don’t get me wrong, sexual assault is a horrible, awful crime and men/women who force sexual contact with others are the scum of the earth. But situations like what has been described for Corrine/DeMario is not sexual assault. As much of a scumbag DeMario might be (going on Bachelorette with a GF back home), I hope he doesn’t get stuck with the label of a rapist.

  2. RaRa

    June 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM

    I’m very surprised to hear it was a producer who “blew the whistle” on “inappropriateness”. After all, the whole premise is a big hook-up show. I was expecting it to be a staff member from the resort who threatened to sue the show. Needless to say, if it was the producer Steve mentioned, I bet she won’t be producing any more of the Bachelor franchise’s shows! She cost them a lot of money this season.

  3. marcommom

    June 13, 2017 at 1:13 PM

    This is so disgusting on all levels. Corinne just flitting about, trying to keep her 15 minutes of semi-fame going, throwing herself into the laps of these guys, and then getting naked – once again. DeMario just being a stupid guy – but certainly a participant.

    Both are at fault for not knowing when to say “no” when producers are plying them with alcohol. And of course producers are plying them, but I’d assume they are not trying to kill them. Why did this never happen before on this stupid show (which I admit to enjoying for its stupidity)? How many others did not get “limp,” “blacked out,” and get involved with some form of possibly criminal behavior? Did they all eventually stop before they blacked out? (Perhaps Chad being an exception.)

    It’s interesting to read that both were shown the video for testimonials and nothing happened until a producer called the production out. I’m sure there were some legal machinations to inform that.

    But, and I am not trying to slut shame her, and I sincerely hope she’s okay, but I’m not surprised it was Corinne who was involved. This girl will stop at nothing in the quest for self-promotion. She’ll go along with anything to create a story line, and you have to wonder how she is feeling today. Center of attention again?

    Ugh. I feel dirty.

  4. katieottawa

    June 13, 2017 at 1:24 PM

    apparently this bimbo is suing the producers because she felt she wasnt protected??

    uhh she is a grown 25 year old adult. the producers arent there to be this girls babysitter. If she really needed someone to watch over her she should have brought along her nanny.

    Girl there are consequences to irresponsible behavior and bad judgement. Getting drunk and getting naked and frisky with a strange guy on a show about hook ups will most likely bring about some kind of sexual encounter. He didnt get the wrong idea, thats the premise of the show. Thats what you signed up for.

    But this girl is a sh*t stirrer,drama queen and troublemaker. The show wanted a villain and controversial constestant well its pretty much come back to bite them in the **s as she found a way to make problems for them and take full advantage of these “blurred lines” to get a major payout from the show and network. And basically ruin it for everyone else.

  5. supersparklyday

    June 13, 2017 at 1:51 PM

    Wow, this sucks. I luv BIP. That producer should be get her stoopid nose out of it. Corinne didn’t have a problem with anything and hadn’t made a complaint – and since the producer apparently did have a problem with Corinne making out with DeMario, then SHE should have quit her job in this franchise, especially if she has a problem with drinking and sex. Now she’s ruined it for all of us. I wish that producer well on her next job as a fast food cashier. Little twit that she is. as

  6. marcommom

    June 13, 2017 at 2:10 PM

    It’s amazing how some places have already bought into the concept of Corinne being the innocent victim. The facts will come out – but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was quite complicit in all of this to call attention to herself once again. Didn’t we see that on her Bachelor appearance? Didn’t she immediately launch some clothing company centered around all her “clever” quotes?

    Meanwhile all these Millenials out there adoring her and defending her – I don’t believe she wasn’t all up for this. AND apparently she has a boyfriend.
    DeMario – just a moron all around.

  7. leighleighleigh

    June 13, 2017 at 4:34 PM

    A few points:

    First, for the sake of this particular situation, which involves a male (DeMario) and a female (Corinne), I will limit my remarks on sexual assault to a male/female dynamic with the male as the perpetrator.

    Second, stop! All of you. Stop! NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED!!! I am not going to defend or admonish either Corinne or DeMario because a) I don’t know them, personally, and b) we commenters on Reality Steve’s comment thread don’t have all (or any) of the facts. This is MUCH more than he said/she said; this is people’s lives.

    Corinne and DeMario aren’t just characters on television; both of them are real human beings with real feelings and real lives. Herein lies a major problem with Reality Television — separate from producer manipulation and fabricated story lines and made-up drama, there are the actual people who provide the “reality.” People, as anyone who is a person already knows, are inherently flawed.

    Just because Corinne has a “reputation” on this show doesn’t mean that she is lying. A prostitute — like, an actual prostitute who gets paid for sex — can be raped just as easily as a virgin. Porn stars are raped all the time. Google it.

    No means no. Period.

    Third, @utesdad, I disagree with you. Most women who accuse someone of sexual assault and file charges are not doing it because they are embarrassed or regretful. They are doing it out of the desire to protect other future victims and/or because a wrong was committed. Sexual Assault is illegal and immoral, and the fact that it is extremely difficult to prove in a court of law doesn’t make it any less illegal or immoral. Most sexual assault investigations and criminal trials involve a lot of victim-blaming and revictimization. You wrote: “Unfortunately, the alleged Corrine/DeMario situation happens every day at colleges across the country. Girl and guy get drunk. There is no blatant “yes” for sexual contact, and no blatant “no” indicating either party wishes to stop. They have sexual contact. Once inebriation wears off, one party realizes things went further than they would have liked (for many different reasons: they found out the other was a scumbag, they have a BF/GF already, they simply regret it, etc). … Far too often men get permanently labeled as sex offenders, when in reality the woman simply later regretted letting it go that far.” Here’s why you’re wrong: unless sexual assault is proven and someone gets put on the sex offenders’ registry, then 9 times out of 10, the accuser is permanently labeled as a slut and the accused just goes on with his life. I’m not sure where you got your facts, but they are definitely alternative.

    Also, @katieottawa please do not call a stranger a bimbo.

    Last thing: I have a feeling that the producer did not make the decision to tattle lightly. She knows that her job might be on the line. If we know it, then she knows it. I’m curious what time ends up telling us about this investigation, and I will reserve further judgment until after I have more facts.

  8. elizabeth82

    June 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM

    Hey don’t we wanna follow Chris H’s advice and not rush to immediate judgment?

    I’m glad that this doesn’t seem to be as completely awful as first suggested, though–that it wasn’t clear-cut that a contestant was raped and rather a producer blew the whistle. This show is trashy as all hell, so that’s not surprising.

    leighleighleigh right that women are more often thrown under the bus as being sluts rather than people being quick to brand guys as rapists. I don’t have any interest in slut-shaming Corinne. There’s too much speculation at this point; even Steve basically says he’s not sure what to believe.

  9. elizak

    June 13, 2017 at 6:05 PM

    Thank you so much for this comment…I completely agree. I find the comments I’ve been seeing from a lot of people to be really disheartening.

    Unless someone was there and saw what happened, you don’t know enough to pass judgment one way or another. If you read what Steve says he even notes that what he’s heard isn’t the gospel truth (because it’s too early to know) – and he’s not a very nuanced guy.

    I did not enjoy watching Corinne at all on the Bachelor but I also am not going to write her off or slut shame her right now. Nor will I vilify DeMario. We don’t have enough information. This may be a show but it involves real human beings.

    The shutting down of a huge network show like this effects a lot of people, including locals in Mexico who work in production and service. Although we’re used to seeing this franchise on our tv’s, computer screens, Twitter, Instagram etc we aren’t entitled to know everything about it. This is a serious investigation and although I too am curious to know what happened, I’m not going to rush to be judge and jury when the evidence hasn’t been fully collected. I hope others may stop and do the same.

  10. atleast4characters

    June 13, 2017 at 7:25 PM

    The crew member’s statement reads:
    “Corrine and Demario found out when they arrived in Mexico that the storyline would involve the two of them hooking up…”
    You have to wonder about the details of the various storylines and how and when they’re concocted. I assume at least that they would base their parings on “who would you be interested in” surveys during casting. Anyway, continuing with the story:
    “…so they decided to hang out and get better acquainted over drinks. Soon they decided to go swimming and when they climbed into the Jacuzzi, they were both loaded. Corrine proceeded to remove her bathing suit and things got increasingly sexual. There was hugging and kissing and touching, but before long, she seemed to go limp and was sliding under water. Demario kept trying to hold her up and at the same time he appeared to be having intercourse with her. After he finished – which only lasted a few seconds – he lifted her out of the water and laid her on the cement, where he proceeded to have oral sex with her. She appeared to be unconscious. At that point some of the crew came out and carried her off to her room. She was limp and seemed unable to walk on her own.”

    The crew member also criticized the way the incident was handled by the production team in the moment, since they made the decision to just let Olympios “sleep it off” instead of calling “a doctor or paramedic.” The Daily Mail reports that Olympios has apparently told friends that she was too drunk to consent and doesn’t remember the incident. The crew member says that Olympios is “preparing to file a law suit because she feels she was not protected by the show’s producers.”

    Jackson told TMZ on Sunday that he was too drunk to have sex, and that he only had oral sex with her after she put her genitals in his face. The Daily Mail says Olympios and Jackson have been in touch and are reportedly on good terms.
    It’s very telling that she is suing the producers but she and DeMario “have been in touch and are reportedly on good terms.” It wouldn’t surprise me if the lawsuit was planned in advance (i.e. before the incident).

  11. click

    June 13, 2017 at 8:17 PM

    Why would a guy who’s drunk have to be more responsible than a gal who’s drunk???
    I think the producer doesn’t like black dlck!

  12. upmyalley

    June 14, 2017 at 12:06 AM

    Corinne is one train wreck piece of work. If that’s one of Rachel’s besties, I might question Rachel’s judgment as well. Not that Dimario is any better. I have never watched BIP because these pigs and hoes don’t interest me whatsoever after their season. Seriously. does this surprise anyone? The producers and handlers are low life slime. Making ridiculous amounts of alcohol available at all times to people who already do not have control over their drinking is plain irresponsible.

  13. justa_viewer

    June 14, 2017 at 4:39 AM

    leighleighleigh made some good points. Personally–and no doubt this will be an unpopular opinion–I’m glad the whistle was blown and filming was shut down.

    I already thought BIP (and its ilk) had a sketchy moral compass at best. But when you have a film crew filming naked people out in the open engaged in sex acts, and filming continues until one or both parties stop/pass out–and this appears to be the case, from what we are hearing–I find that creepy and voyeuristic in the extreme.

    And when I think that snippets of this were no doubt going to end up played out over the public airwaves (as opposed to, say, a cable network like Showtime), I can’t say I’m sorry that there will be no BIP this summer. Obviously, YMMV.

  14. rob22

    June 14, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    I don’t want to speculate on what actually happened between DeMario and Corrinne. That will all come out eventually. But it’s really no surprise that whatever happened the two of them were involved. I wonder if the reason that it was shut down was that the hotel threw them out. I know if I owned a hotel that I was trying to get publicity for, a possible sexual assault would be a pretty easy line to draw. You don’t sign up for publicity and expect to get linked to a sexual assault in news reports. My opinion of the folks I was connected with would disintegrate pretty fast if I thought they were enabling illegal assaults. One other note, they came pretty close to crossing a similar line with Chad last year. They invited him knowing he was volatile and possibly violent, but they set him up to rage & invited a possible assault there too. This franchise, at minimum, needs to reign themselves in…. if they even have a franchise anymore.

  15. allaboutme

    June 14, 2017 at 12:24 PM

    As much as they keep raising the bar for shock value – and as fast as they keep raising the bar, I’m honestly shocked something like this (or as rob22 mentioned, assault) hasn’t happened before.

  16. thetruthhurts

    June 14, 2017 at 4:51 PM

    I don’t understand how she has a bf? Isn’t the point of BiP to go and hook up with other contestants? If she’s worried about ruining that relationship, why go on this show?

  17. tater

    June 15, 2017 at 2:24 AM

    I wonder if they’ll just take footage of everyone arriving, Doing like a major Behind the scenes of the wedding and that take the place of BIP. Would be super drawn out but would work.

  18. tater

    June 15, 2017 at 2:42 AM

    First date with Nick she takes off her top in the pool, first date at BIP she takes off her top in the pool again. She often gets drunk and sleeps.(probably thought the same) Always talking about having a platinum vagine. She says that other casting numbers mentioned to producers that they should step in. Why didn’t the other cast members step in themselves If they were so worried. Seems kind of shady. Multiple people have quit following corinne and are clearly on the DeMario side, following him on social platforms, unfollowing Corrine. DeMario says that he wasn’t drunk and Corinne’s not mad at him(she says) but she’s mad at the producers. From reports that are now coming out it looks like she’s going to say rape. Bad situation but don’t go on a show about hooking up if that’s not something you’re interested in.( clearly would be a different story if she said no and he continued) Shouldn’t be on it anyway with a boyfriend but looking for fame.Whatever fame you was looking for isn’t gonna happen now cause no one is gonna want you for their shows.

  19. sunset

    June 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM

    leighleighleigh and justa_viewer, thank you for your posts. There are so many issues here. In Nick’s season I was no fan of Corinne but there’s no way I’m going to judge her here. The producers of this show, regardless of the thick contracts they have contestants sign, owe their cast members a certain amount of safety and and it appears they’ve failed in their responsibility and duties. This production didn’t get shut down for no reason. I read an article by a producer of another reality show, read more articles by two lawyers and heard an interview with a 3rd lawyer and they all have concerns primarily with the producers of BIP and film crew.

    I get why Reality Steve isn’t talking about that side. He depends on his sources so he’s hardly going to talk about how their lack of moral compass crossing significant lines here. That doesn’t make it any less real an issue, however. I’m glad BIP got shut down and is being investigated. If ever there was a reason to do that, this is it.

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