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The “Bachelor” Arie Finale Part 1 Thoughts, Becca Speaks Out, Former Contestants Weigh In, & “Bachelorette” Announcement Tonight

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Well that was certainly a lot to take in, no? Holy sh**. Even though you’ve known what was coming for weeks now, it still didn’t make it any easier to watch. When most of the contestants who’ve been on this show, ones that have signed contracts themselves and know what’s in them, are even calling out the show last night, you know something wasn’t right. You know, it’s weird. There’s so much to cover, yet, I feel that continually talking about everything I’ve talked about all season is nothing new to everyone. Sure, I have some thoughts on last night, but there’s no need to drag on here. I wanna show you some of the reaction of “Bachelor Nation” last night to answer some of your questions that I know you have, talk a little about what to expect in the future, and then kinda talk about the how of everything last night, not just the act itself. People seem to have a lot of misconceptions about what they saw last night, some even bordering on maniacal in thinking that it wasn’t real, so lets put that a lot of that to rest.

First off, I think the biggest thing anyone should do is read the interviews that Arie gave to People.com and, most importantly, what Becca’s reaction was to everything. Class act. Everything Becca says makes perfect sense, couldn’t have handled herself any better than she did, and I don’t disagree with a word she said. Honestly, read it. Because I don’t want to repeat what she said, even though in a roundabout way, I probably will. I mean, how can you argue with any of that really?

For those that didn’t read page 2 of last Tuesday’s column, and for those that still might be in the dark of what happens tonight in regards to the “Bachelorette” announcement – it’s Becca. C’mon. You think after all that last night, and you think after all this coming tonight Chris Harrison is gonna say, “And our next Bachelorette…Tia!” Or Kendall. Or Bekah M. C’mon. I told you this in January on the day that I spoiled Arie had ended his engagement to Becca and taken up with Lauren that the “Bachelorette” would be Becca’s as long as she wants it. She will be announced tonight and there’s not gonna be any last second change up. Filming starts next week, and I will be releasing some of her guys to you then. Probably next Wednesday since I leave that morning for my annual March Madness trip to Vegas, I’ll be in a wonderful mood, and you can have a few guys to discuss amongst yourselves as before things get going.

So we had me spoiling the ending for you on Nov. 30th when I told you he was engaged to Becca. Then Arie & Becca twice spoiled they were together on Instagram during the month of December. Then on Saturday, Hulu accidentally posted a tourism video of Peru that was up for a couple hours which completely spoiled the proposal last night. Good thing I got screen shots of it and a reader took a video of it on her phone before they took it down. So last night’s first two hours had zero suspense. Anyone who didn’t know or believe he was engaged to Becca after Peru had their head buried for the last 3 ½ months. It. Was. Everywhere. Here’s what Hulu posted over the weekend:

Some of you suggested that Hulu did it on purpose, but I don’t see it that way at all. It’s not like they released the full episode. They released a 5 minute tourism video that had the proposal in it, which was obviously not supposed to be released until after last night. If it was on purpose, why wouldn’t they just leave it up? Why wouldn’t the show acknowledge it last night if it was purposely done? Look, I’m all for a good conspiracy theory when it comes to this show, but they didn’t need to release anything on Saturday for two hours to get people’s attention about the finale. Fans who watch the show were gonna be glued last night regardless of if Hulu accidentally posted anything. So lets just put an end to that conspiracy theory shall we?

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  1. canon

    March 6, 2018 at 8:45 AM

    I really wish Becca would have taken the on camera opportunity to call him out and ask questions so his hot seat would get hotter. When did you start talking to Lauren again and have you seen her? Who else have you talked to? What about Lauren wasn’t right leading you to choose me instead? If you had chosen her would you be breaking up with her right now to come back to me? And if so, know that I would say no. How long have you been planning this breakup? Were you thinking about here each time we made love?

    I see why he chooses Lauren because she’s quiet and shallow and not that bright so will be easy to cheat on. He thought she was prettier and ‘mysterious’ even though she never gave him any reason other than that to want her. I wish her luck. She’ll need it!

  2. linds

    March 6, 2018 at 8:53 AM

    I actually loved that Becca didn’t give him a chance to talk to her after he ended it. I love that she told him to leave and didn’t say a word more. He didn’t deserve it. He kept lingering so awkwardly, because he wanted closure. I was so proud of her for not giving that to him! She was strong and at that point, she owed him nothing! Yay for Becca as Bachelorette!!!

  3. jlal

    March 6, 2018 at 9:30 AM

    I agree linds, I love that Becca shut down his trying to explain saying it didn’t matter. What is the point of all those questions anyway? He said he wanted to try again with Lauren, in my opinion at that point the conversation stops. What was painful, well the entire thing was painful, but what was really painful was HE WOULDN’T LEAVE! For the love of God man leave when she ask you the first time. I was screaming leave, just go at my TV.

    If I was Becca I would give the big f-you to Arie and the show. How Chris Harrison and the show thought totally humiliating a contestant on air would win them fans I have no idea. This was a new low and a really low, low. Not Arie breaking up, but the blind siding and filming. How horrible for Becca. I wish she would turn down the bachlorette gig. I’d love for Chris H. to announce her, she walks out and blindsides them by saying thanks, but no thanks. That would be good TV.

  4. jlal

    March 6, 2018 at 9:43 AM

    This was in the Washington Post.

    What followed was stomach-turning television, as Arie informed host Chris Harrison and the producers that he was going to dump Becca. So, as apparently contractually obligated, cameras followed along as he blindsided Becca with the news of their broken engagement.

    I wondered if he was contractually obligated. I know RS says no. However, I thought maybe after Jason and Molly they might have added something to the contracts.

    The Washington Post may be wrong, just thought it was interesting.

  5. willowby

    March 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM

    I kept waiting for Becca to comment on the cameras. “Why did you do this? Why are the cameras rolling. Get out!”

    She set herself up pretty well to be the bachelorette, no? That said, given that she now knows all about the shadiness and manipulations of the produces, Chris Harrison, and all, why would she agree to be the next bachelorette? You’d think she’d feel just as betrayed by the producers as she was by Arie. I would be furious.

  6. carey

    March 6, 2018 at 9:50 AM

    Becca (and all of the other girls except Lauren) dodged a bullet for sure. Arie is shady. Karma will lap that boy soon enough.

    Did anyone else notice it seemed Becca had a gift bag she shoved back into her suitcase? It had to be for Arie. Regardless, it ended up being a gift to herself of a much better future after all.

    I’m sure that “golf game” with Lauren’s father will go over swimmingly. Every man hopes his daughter ends up with a man-skank.

    Thanks for another amazing season RS, always a fan!

  7. adelina

    March 6, 2018 at 9:54 AM

    @jlal, how would the Washington Post know that Arie was “contractually obligated” to film the breakup? I just don’t think they’d be privy to that information.

    It seems suspicious to me that the Happy Couple visits while not filmed previously, were filmed for Arie and Becca. Don’t you think that they knew based on Arie’s reputation that they were in his head from the onset of the engagement questioning him about his decision. They knew they had a waffler on their hands, so they started filming visits in anticipation of a certain breakup.

    I have been saying in previous posts that I didn’t want Becca for Bachelorette, but now of course that’s all changed and I’m rooting for her just like everyone else.

    Arie showed his true colors with that filming of the breakup, but I thought it was even more telling of his cluelessness and lack of empathy , the way he kept hanging around staring at her in all of her agony. Dude just could not walk out because he was so hoping he’d get some kind of blessing or permission for his awfulness.

  8. tinyred500

    March 6, 2018 at 10:13 AM

    Being in the UK I’m still waiting for my app to update with last night’s episode, so I only have media sources to read and RS’s spoilers. I said on a previous post that Becca should decline the offer of The Bachelorette, after the producers saw fit to treat her that way. Self preservation is a great thing, and if I were Becca, I most certainly wouldn’t want anything more to do with the franchise. 15 minutes of fame and money means too much to some, but money isn’t everything and IMHO self respect is worth an awful lot more, because you can’t buy it back once it’s lost.

    Arie will go down as one of the worse bachelors in the franchise’s history, simply for going along with the producers far too willingly., He worse than Juan Pablo and Jake P IMHO. Ben H and Sean L are still the best bachelors. 😀

  9. tamz171926

    March 6, 2018 at 10:18 AM

    I agree w/some of the others above – after all of the manipulation and the way she was treated, why in the world would Becca entertain the idea of being The Bachelorette? Chris H. is right up there w/Arie. The words from the unknown ‘winner’ were very telling – she stated at that point she didn’t trust anyone. Honestly, I think people who go on these shows are idiots to put themselves through all of this. I kept thinking Lauren reminded me of someone and it finally hit when looking at her and Becca’s pix side by side on here – she reminds me of Emily. Could that be the draw for Arie? He got his heart broken by her when she didn’t choose him (not that he wouldn’t have broken her heart if she’d chosen him).

  10. jlal

    March 6, 2018 at 10:28 AM

    Sorry if this posts twice, as I don’t think the first one went through.

    adelina – I don’t know if the Post knows or was speculating. Just thought it was interesting. Arie is either a really mean guy; really stupid for being manipulated like that; or he was contractually obligated.

    Guess I’d like to think someone who professed they cared about another wouldn’t be that mean.

    Also, tinyred500 agreed about Becca not being bachelorette. Like I said, I would love to see her walk out after CH announces her as bachelorette, then blindside them by saying she’d changed her mind.

  11. raeann

    March 6, 2018 at 11:30 AM

    Is it me or does anyone else think he could be gay? Totally ok if he is but he shouldn’t be playing with these girls.

  12. deedledee

    March 6, 2018 at 11:33 AM

    RS is right, at the end of the day Becca wins. She’ll get to be pursued, get to be America’s sweetheart in her stint and hopefully really find someone special. Arie is certainly no prize, he has no idea who he is or what he wants. Maybe he and Lauren will make it work, but who cares. Go Becca.

  13. mom2acrew

    March 6, 2018 at 11:51 AM

    “My belief in engagement is engagement is marriage” Peter

    While solidifying the most NOT Peter stance he could this guy decides in the morning before he asks ? What did he do flip a coin ? I hope Becca continues to shine and he can watch her continue to wow us all ! The Southern WOMENS show has him contracted to make an appearance at their Nashville show next month , I have no idea who they think that will attract .

  14. tinyred500

    March 6, 2018 at 12:25 PM

    Oh I received my copy of Amy Kaufman’s book a day ago, so I look forward to reading that and listening to her and RS podcast this week! 😀

  15. Susan

    March 6, 2018 at 12:28 PM

    She’ll do it. I don’t know many people that would turn down 100K plus and a couple hundred thousand in clothes. Just got done with Amy Kaufman’s book, it’s amazing. She just got treated like crap on national TV and now has the chance to have 25 men chasing after her.

    At first I wasn’t seeing her as Bachelorette, but her poise, intelligence, etc., she’ll be great and I’ll be watching. I hope she finds someone amazing. Personally, I’d be screw you to Bachelor, at the last minute so they’re scrambling. Now everyone in America knows how they treat the people on their show. No way he had to have that filmed. He could have gone to see her without anyone knowing and told her. He’s just a jackass and I’m really glad I didn’t watch much of this season, he gave me the creeps.

  16. stacylee

    March 6, 2018 at 12:56 PM

    I imagine most people are kinda mad at themselves for wasting time on this season. While I have watched for many years, just for entertainment and as a joke, it all stopped being funny last night. ABC, Chris Harrison, and of course, Arie shouldn’t be able to sleep at night! What was done to Becca was cold and heartless. But, for Chris and ABC, it’s just about the $…..Arie, pathetic. I will say I’m disappointed that Becca has agreed to be the Bachelorette. How could she trust these people with ANYTHING? It’s all about ratings and money for THEM!!!! Although she appears to have taken the “high road” in handling things, she’s laying with pigs by agreeing to become the Bachelorette. The whole franchise is a joke and good, decent people should pull out. And, all of us should STOP WATCHING!!!!!

  17. sunnybay

    March 6, 2018 at 1:14 PM

    2 reasons why Becca will come out and agree to be bachelorette tonight

    1. Like Juliet on the Ringer said today, would you want this to be the end of your story and have people for YEARS to come walk up to you in public and say how sorry they are for you, like they did to Clare Crawley? She gets to control her narrative a little bit more as bachelorette and not be forever known as Arie’s rejected woman.

    2. She can’t walk on stage as if to accept and then turn it down. They would never have her walk out if she hadn’t signed a contract to become bachelorette, and if she broke a contract for that brief moment of glory in shaming them, they would come after her in court and it would get very expensive.

  18. betsy602

    March 6, 2018 at 1:29 PM

    Given the producers and the show, and knowing Arie’s rep, I am strongly suspicious this whole thing was a set up from the beginning, and the only question was who would be the lucky two finalists. I bet Arie got a bonus for the ending, all part of his contract up front. The show needed something to boost its lackluster ratings.

  19. catherine a

    March 6, 2018 at 1:38 PM

    I didn’t buy that Becca was that upset. She didn’t even shed a tear for at least a good 20 minutes and they didn’t appear that authentic either. She admitted to him she knew he had been having thoughts about Lauren so I don’t think she was ‘blindsided’. If she were really that shocked she would have done what any normal woman would have done and pulled off her microphone, left the room and shut the door. Instead she and Arie walked around like caged animals for a good 30 minutes. Ridiculous.

  20. merryberry

    March 6, 2018 at 2:29 PM

    I noticed that she didn’t seem upset too but it could’ve been that she was in shock. I was really happy that she didn’t cry at first. I had a feeling that’s why Arie wouldn’t leave – he and the producers didn’t get the dramatic response they hoped for so he stuck around until he could get her to cry. Totally disgusting.

  21. jeneasv

    March 6, 2018 at 2:30 PM

    I am so so happy for Becca to be the Bachelorette but do we not think that she would be smarter than to put herself in this same position of trusting a clearly insensitive and selfish show like this? I am not insulting her intelligence at all, but that would be a tough thing to relive live on tv and then jump right back into it as the lead of the show. Just goes to show that the producers of this show have no class and that they would use and manipulate any of these people to perpetuate drama and increase their ratings. Good luck Becca!

  22. skeenam

    March 6, 2018 at 3:20 PM

    I think you are right that they were waiting for a breakdown. Im guessing it came later once everything sank in. I walked in on my (now ex) husband in bed with his ex and I was surprised by the blankness I felt at first. I think it is a shock like reaction, where there are so many mixed emotions the brain just shuts down. The next few days I cried my face off, but when I actually walked in on him, I was blank and trying to figure out how to respond. I feel like Becca may have experienced a similar shock. Although only she really knows what she was feeling, I am glad they didn’t get the satisfaction of capturing a “break down”.

  23. crushonspivey

    March 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM

    Arie certainly solidified himself as the most immaute, and dumbest Bachelor this show has ever seen. And that is saying something.

    The other thing that was solidified is that Fleiss and Elan have no shame when it comes to this show. Literally none. And apparently neither does Sean Lowe, because he is also happy to chime in and get trotted out on all things about this show. And many others as well. So now with this trainwreck, I hope you are all embarrassed with this association.

    Walk away. All of you, just walk. Show some class. Fleiss appearance money isn’t worth it anymore. You know what this is. Dumpster fire TV.

  24. trainwrecktv

    March 6, 2018 at 5:26 PM

    Watching made me feel like a sleazy lowlife.

  25. upmyalley

    March 6, 2018 at 5:32 PM

    Arie is a total douche and a cad! I hope he gets what he deserves!

  26. catherine a

    March 6, 2018 at 6:00 PM

    This show is SOOO ridiculous….all of these people are out for fame, nothing else, there is no way any rationale person would agree to have their agony of a breakup like this filled over 2 episodes (Becca, obviously hungry to br bachelorette), and Lauren, leaping into Arie,s arms after being dumped on national tv. I really feel rather nauseated right now, this is all so fabricated.

  27. epo713

    March 6, 2018 at 6:15 PM

    So can someone please look into Becca and her claddagh ring? Earlier in season (not sure which episode except it was the one she remarked she hadn’t shaved her legs), the ring was pointed with heart inward. This symbolizes her heart was taken. I watched last night and saw the heart pointed out On her right hand BEFORE the engagement was called off, and just after the break up (shortly after she removed the diamond). they didn’t show that right hand ring much, but a claddagh ring point out means your heart isn’t taken and you’re single. Unless she doesn’t realize what the ring actually MEANS, then this indicates she knew ahead of it that the engagement as off … ratings?

    Just gonna leave this here for Steve to research…

  28. ladyjane747

    March 6, 2018 at 6:21 PM

    Is it just me? I didn’t even think it was great TV. It was boring watching him watch her and follow her around the house. I kept FFing through it. Also, I don’t care what anyone says, Arie’s friends, Steve’s sources – I believe that breakup was scripted. When the producers found out Arie was calling it off and maybe he’d already told Becca, they asked the both of them to film the breakup, holding out the Bachelorette gig to Becca as a lure. I mean, she may have been in shock, but her reaction seemed off to me. Why would you let them stick a camera in your face unless you already agreed to it? Any normal person would’ve said, “get that thing out of my face and get out of here,” walked away and locked themselves in the bathroom. She acted like the cameras weren’t even there. No way. I’m surprised Steve thinks this idea is a conspiracy theory after he’s been telling us for the past 10 years or whatever that this is a scripted TV show. I believe him, and I believe that breakup was a planned part of the show. Why would Becca agreed to be humiliated like that? Because she really didn’t come off looking foolish at all – all the vitriol is reserved for Arie and Becca gets the B’ette gig and a choice of a whole new crop of 25 guys and gets to be America’s sweetheart. Sweet deal for her.

  29. epo713

    March 6, 2018 at 6:22 PM

    My advice to Steve is – stop focusing on engagement ring disappearing. I get that- she should take it off. But she certainly knows what her Irish claddagh ring means — had it pointed in DURING the season, then pointed out after finale and before breakup. Just want you to look into this on your own.

  30. ms2018

    March 6, 2018 at 7:13 PM

    If like you said, she is set up to be the next Bachelorette and says yes. I would guess that she simply accepts how fake and manipulative the whole production was to get the show they wanted as it played out then. And that she is fine with it to the extent that it is worth the money, time on TV, what opportunities she is sold on could come from being the next Bachelorette.

    Because a repetition of the saying ’I still believe in the process, I know it can work, I will be the next Bachelorette’ from her. After that filmed breakup (clearly coached to some extent, to get good TV leading up to it at some level by production communicating with Arie). That would mean as a just heartbroken person, you could not say that whole I believe in the process and that it is real spiel without acting a bit, or being dumb beyond dumb. Because you would know from how that was set up to be filmed, that much is planned and part of an act and manipulation to get certain responses.
    If it is more important to feeling trust and respect for the quality of the production and the people in it (than a TV gig), after seeing all that first hand. You would say, hell no to being the Bachelorette if you are her. Or otherwise, you are simply buying it as a half-acting gig, and are ok with the manipulation to that ’real process’, and that is that.

  31. ms2018

    March 6, 2018 at 7:30 PM

    The possibility of it being a shock reaction is valid. Agree. But if true. That just shows how further sleezy the production and Arie was that milked it for so long to get more of a reaction or force a reaction. Not much happened in that drawn out live breakup. It had the look of an awkward scen in a school play almost. And with the thought of a manipulative production crew in the background coaching. What is to say that Arie not leaving after the first 2-3 ’just leave’ from her, wasn’t due to a producer signaling for him to stay on the coach, going again to the room she was in, and so on? And that it wasn’t that drawn out just simply because his ego needed more talking from her.

  32. ms2018

    March 6, 2018 at 7:37 PM

    One possibility could be that she says yes because she wants the money it can give her, the being on TV might be a huge draw for her, the opportunities she is told she can get from being on TV might be enough for her to disregard the things you mentioned. And that she simply sees it as a worth while half-acting gig with the possibility to perhaps meet a guy that also plays along and they turn out to like eachother in the end.

  33. lorielle

    March 6, 2018 at 8:14 PM

    I absolutely agree with you, including feeling surprised that our otherwise cynical Steve actually bought into this being real. (Steve, did you sell out?) It seemed to me Becca was really struggling to cry and there were NO tears most of the time. I think the outcome was scripted long before this episode was filmed. It wasn’t a totally original ending but filming the “break up” was. And it’s backfiring …

  34. notimpressed

    March 6, 2018 at 9:55 PM

    I think there’s one thing we can all agree on….that big mouthed Caroline is extraordinarily annoying.

  35. beapancake

    March 6, 2018 at 10:32 PM

    She is soooo annoying!! She acts like we’ve all been waiting for her to speak and she does not speak well!! I was going crazy every time her mouth opened, when she cut someone off (againagain) or how about when she grabbed Becca to have her sit on her lap so she would once again, be center of attention. #desperado

  36. beapancake

    March 6, 2018 at 10:40 PM

    My Therory:
    So it’s pretty obvious to me the producers could not stand Arie and how boring he made their season and the bad weekly ratings and essentially threw him under the bus for all of America to witness his true character. (A Luke Pell) Becca was a casualty for *an hour• then they quickly told her after he (finally) left – “it’s cool – you’re next Bachelorette – we’re just making him pay up with finale ratings after calorie restricting us all season.” He was too dumb to realize he basically ruined his reputation for Life. Plausible?
    Also I don’t think Arie ever stopped talking to Lauren – he was most likely cheating on Becca albeit not physically. That hug had quite the emotional affair behind it.

  37. rhon

    March 6, 2018 at 11:50 PM

    This whole thing was to set Becca up to be the next Bachelorette. Everyone wants their 15 mins of fame it seems.

    I don’t believe for a second that this wasn’t planned.

  38. jlal

    March 7, 2018 at 4:04 AM

    Don’t know how I feel about the breakup being staged. Part of me says yes, but part of me says no I think it was real. It would make me feel better about everything if it was, because then all parties involved weren’t so mean/blindsided.

    As for last night, I think most of the fans probably walked away feeling better about everything. I didn’t buy for a minute that Arie choose to do it on TV, so everyone would know it was on him and not Becca. What a load of crap. But, they did the best they could with Jason and Molly, him explaining, etc. to rehabilitate him or at least get him off the most wanted list. What cracked me up were the billboards, too funny!

    I also think him proposing to Lauren was just rubbing salt in the wound (if there is a wound). Either he is totally tone deaf to other’s feelings or very easily manipulated by production. Maybe a little of both. Becca being the bachelorette a couple of months after supposedly being crushed and broken hearted is what makes me think it was planned to some extent. Either she didn’t love him like she said, and she too was not ready to be engaged or she is not really ready (see Ben on Winter Games) to move on. I’ve been there with my true love and was not even close to moving on three months later, thank goodness we got back so I didn’t have to.

    For some reason though, I think Arie and Lauren really do love each other and may actually make it in the long run. I hope for Lauren’s sake they do.

    I think Becca will make a fun lead. She grew on me once they started showing her personality.

  39. lunagal

    March 7, 2018 at 4:23 AM

    Becca has class and handled it as best as she could considering she was completely blindsided and had a camera following he4 every move. Arie is a complete wa**er, and Lauren is totally naive. However much you claim to love this douchebag, why on earth would you get engaged to him so soon! Molly had the right idea and made Jason prove himself, which I doubt is something Arie will ever be able to do as he fails at everything else he does. What should have been shown was the conversation Arie had with Lauren’s father… that would have made great TV!

  40. beapancake

    March 7, 2018 at 4:32 AM

    There’s no way I believe it was staged. I know exactly how Becca felt

  41. tinyred500

    March 7, 2018 at 4:33 AM

    There’s so many comments that I either totally agree with or partially agree with, and there’s so much more I could add to theirs…..but really in a nut shell, I think this season has shown and brought to the much wider public’s attention, just how ugly this show is, just how much manipulation goes on and just how much it’s produced….behind the scenes and now more exposed for us to witness not so behind the scenes. Even more glaringly, just how totally complicit the contestants are to all the ghastly shenanigans that we all now see on our screens. It really does show how much they want to be part of this awful franchise….whether they get humiliated and thrown under bus etc., they don’t care. I really have so little respect for anyone who does not value their own self worth more and are happy to for such a truly trashy **ity programme to take a massive dump all over them. 🙁

  42. jlal

    March 7, 2018 at 4:56 AM

    tinyred, this show like all “reality” shows is not really real. We all know that, as do the contestants. Everyone is in on the joke. Like I said above, I’m on the fence on if Becca knew about the breakup set-up. Part of me says no, but the fact that she so easily slid into the bachelorette role and shook off Arie, makes me think maybe, just maybe.

    As for why they go one the show, money; fame; building a social media brand, which can net big bucks; a chance at a career in the entertainment industry (Jillian Harris, Kit Hoover (another show), Ashley I, Alex Michel, Bob Guiney, etc.); and travel, just to name a few.

    It is entertainment, not real or at least for the most part not real. They’re in on it too.

  43. tinyred500

    March 7, 2018 at 5:26 AM

    I get and understand all that they are in on the joke etc., for most part at least. For me the point I’m truly making here…is

    Self respect in my book has a much, much higher price and worth, and contestants are clearly willing to sell out to the producers to get to where they want to, no matter what it takes. It’s utterly distasteful in every sense of the word. 🙁 It goes without saying it takes a very particular type of person to want to participate in all of that.

  44. willowby

    March 7, 2018 at 5:27 AM

    My first reaction would have been, “Get these f-I got cameras out of here!” She did seem far to content to let the whole thing be captured. And when they shoes her in her apartment in MN after the breakup. Why were cameras still following her? Who would allow it? She was auditioning.

  45. canadianblacksheep

    March 7, 2018 at 5:30 AM

    My two cents:

    1. Arie Jr the womanizer actually looks like Arie Jr the romantic kid who had his heart broken by someone he loved a lot and then spent a good time wandering from woman to woman, using them to reassure to himself he’s worthy of someone’s love but never actually getting over that heartbreak. I think he was honest when he said that he has never fallen for someone after Emily Maynard.
    I don’t feel scorn for him. I feel sorry for him.
    Anyway, if he insists on being a womanizer after proposing/breaking up/going after the runner-up/proposing again everything on national TV he’ll be a complete moron as well as any woman who gets involved with him. He’s deemed, he went way too far. If I was him, I’d take this opportunity to change. No decent woman would take any chance on him after so much media exposition. This guy risks to die remembered as the break-up Bachelor guy.

    2. Arie Jr using the show to promote himself for motor racing? Sorry Steve but there’s no way he can do it. Let’s put things into perspective. He’s a Junior. Arie Luyendyk Sr. is a legendary driver. A double Indy 500 winner and the fastest gun to lap Indianapolis Motor Speedway ever. He has a solid reputation and is well connected enough to open very good doors for Junior. A couple calls from Arie Sr. and team owners could give Junior a chance. But Junior had his shot a few years ago and in spite of his father’s help (the Luyendyks founded a team for Junior to race the Indy 500 years ago) he did really poorly compared with his dad, who never had the best cars but was extremely fast and never put his had down for guys like Nigel Mansell, Emerson Fittipaldi, the Unsers and the Andrettis. Being named Arie Luyendyk Jr. may have created lots of expectations over him but no, he was a flop. He was not a driver who had to struggle, he’s the son of Arie Luyendyk. Any serious chance for him on Indycars, NASCAR or IMSA? Probably not. He’s 36 and does not have an impressive resume. And he knows it. If he was that good he’d never waste his time on reality shows.

    3. Lauren the boring girl who is set up to be the Womanizer’s next victim? She looks totally and very impressively in love, but never take the quiet girl for granted… Never! Lol!

    4. Does Arie have the power to influence ABC’s decision to broadcast the breakup???? Really??? No, he was just another puppet to get big numbers for the show. In a sleepy season, ABC was delighted to have all that drama element… lol… if Arie had all that power, he would be driving for a top Formula One team! Lol!

    5. Becca the new bachelorette after just a few weeks of being dumped in front of the cameras???? Is she REALLY ready for moving on that quick, forget the Womanizer and take off for another experience where she can get another heartbreak? If she is, my compliments to her but something’s not right… lol

  46. tinyred500

    March 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM

    Totally agree about the ‘quiet girl’ thing! Never ever under estimate her/it!!! Lol 😀

  47. canadianblacksheep

    March 7, 2018 at 6:01 AM

    Arie must be well aware that his good ol’ womanizer days are over and that he’ll be forever remembered by this episode. Don’t know what Arie Sr., a guy who worked very hard to build his reputation, thinks of that. No decent woman will agree on being the next Becca or Lauren (in case he cheats)

  48. willowby

    March 7, 2018 at 6:40 AM

    I so agree with your post. Also, Arie is not the devil and Becca is overrated, and, in my opinion, not ready to be Bachelorette, nor should she want to be after the way she was manipulated.

    Hopefully Arie will be able to turn things around, change his rumored womanizing ways, and settle down.

    I really like Lauren, and I really hope they make it. They are so sweet together. I’m rooting for them. He made a bad decision. It’s just a show, guys.

    And don’t ever underestimate the shy girl.

  49. linds

    March 7, 2018 at 7:57 AM

    I don’t feel like Becca hasn’t had time to “move on” from Arie. It’s been a couple months since they broke up. What is she supposed to do when he is in love with someone else? I don’t think she has to sit around and feel sorry for herself. Why wouldn’t she want to find something better even more? It would be different if they just broke up and that was that. Arie was in love with someone else. He basically faked his way through their entire engagement. Lastnight he disregarded her feelings entirely and their entire relationship. Knowing that, if I were Becca, I would only want to move on that much more! Just my thoughts though. She’ll be a fun Bachelorette!!

  50. katieottawa

    March 7, 2018 at 8:13 AM

    this show is so stupid and a complete circus. if i were to bet its in the contract that if the lead decides to end it with his final one in the time between the engagement and the ATFR, the break up must happen on film.

    and as far as hes concerned in the way he breaks up with her hes damned if he does, damned if he dont. i dont believe it would have made a difference had he just not picked anyone,not proposed or broke up with her privately or strung her along until the AFTR to break up with her soon after. They would all have said look hes player and didnt go on the show to find a wife and all the hysterical women would STILL be out with pitchforks you know why because Jason was the most hated men,brad was the most hated man,Pablo and now this guy. When it doesnt end favorably for the women and they are all rejected or the guy rejects one women just get all offended. And its all biased hypocrisy because how many write steve asking if any bachelor has ever gone for his 2nd pick after it not working with the final one or how many ask steve the chance the bachelor will change his mind and decide he made the mistake to then pick the runner up who they like best. Yet when it happens for real, they are ALL offended. Please. They call this reality but what people want is fantasy not reality. Fantasy that people who spend a total of 24 hours together are saying i love you to each other and after a total of 7 dates be ready to get engaged and be ready to be married. its so utterly ridiculous. Reality is someone who after a few weeks realizes you know what i dont see myself with this person after spending a bit more time with her like 99% of relationships that end in breakup.

    Who cares if they are engaged, these engagements mean NOTHING.They are essentially just agreeing to dating with a ring on their finger. Everyone of these people are puppets to the show producers who are the master puppeteers. They PICK people they can control and easily manipulate. i dont feel sorry for anyone who signs up for this show. the guy had no choice to do it this way just like she never questioned or commented on the camera being in her face or flat out calling him out for doing it with cameras there. Why because its part of what they signed up for.

    These producers have no shame. they plan the breakup with him, throw a camera in her face yet the next day SHE tells CH it was a good thing because it helps her look back on their conversation and get closure. Give me a fcking break and then is willing to trust them to find her true love. First of all there was no reason they needed to show an hour unedited of her with her hands covering her face, going to the bathroom, crying in the bathroom. They did that to make a bigger impact and make people feel sorrier for her. Wouldnt of had the same impact had they shown a 10minute edited version of them talking, her crying a bit, going into the bathroom and him leaving. In this metoo movement lets really drawn it out for an hour.

    And then if it wasnt enough, the next night in the span of 1hour the guy gets engaged to the runner up, then she is named bachelorette and right away bachelors are trotted out. it is so completely over the top.

    what a farce.

    and i dont agree with the people who say the producers concocted this because of his low ratings. he broke up with her in mid january. they didnt know the ratings were going to be lower they were only a couple of episodes in.

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