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The “Bachelorette” Hannah – Finale Part 1 Recap, Tonight’s Doozy, & the Return of the “He Said, She Said” Podcast with Ashley Spivey

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-So we head into tonight and they’ve laid the groundwork for what the spoilers were. Although, judging by some fan reaction on Twitter last night, just like I mentioned a while back, there will still be people going into tonight and even after the finale plays out who say, “I thought you said she picked Tyler?” So hopefully those people are reading today. Yes, my first spoiler back in early May was that Hannah got engaged to Tyler in Greece. That information was wrong and corrected on June 18th. Ever since then I’ve said it in almost every column, and it’s been mentioned on the podcast, that Hannah got engaged to Jed in Greece, never picked Tyler, and my original information was wrong. So lets get that out of the way first and foremost. Never Tyler. It was always Jed. She didn’t pick Tyler then switch to Jed. It was Jed on the day of the finale, and even though you don’t have any physical proof of that, I would think by now with the promos and how they’re teasing tonight, it’s quite obvious that’s what happened.

-You really think if she picked Tyler in Greece, they got engaged, and they’ve been together since May they’d be hyping tonight like they have? Of course not. Wouldn’t make sense. You think Hannah would be getting up on stage last night saying “I don’t know what’s gonna happen tonight and I’m looking for answers” if she’s been a happily engaged woman to Tyler for the last 2 months? Again, of course not. She got engaged to Jed in Greece. Shortly thereafter the engagement, Jed told Hannah about Haley. I don’t know exactly what he told her, but obviously the details weren’t close to what Haley shared, because Hannah stayed engaged to him. After Haley’s story broke on the afternoon of June 18th, within the next week sometime, Hannah called off the engagement. She is not engaged to Jed anymore and won’t be tonight when they take the stage. From this point, that’s where all the speculation begins…

-Clearly we see in the preview for tonight’s episode, Hannah talking to someone saying “How would you ever be ready to be engaged.” Well, that’s Jed. I’m guessing that conversation was their breakup conversation, which I told you back then was filmed. What Jed’s plan is tonight, I have no idea. What he should do versus what he will do could be two completely different things. He should get up there and apologize for lying about his relationship with Haley, admit his mistakes, and ask if Hannah can forgive him. But I highly doubt that’s the route he’s taking. He’s already had that IG post which clearly said how much he’s been bothered by social media attacks and to wait until he shares his side. Whatever happens tonight, you’ll be hearing from Haley on the podcast this week for her reaction to what he says. We’re set to record tmrw morning. She won’t be the full podcast since we’ve already done that. Just based on what Jed says, I’ll have her on to react to him. Maybe 15-20 minutes.

-I know there’s a ton of speculation going on tonight in regards to what Hannah will do live. Will she tear Jed apart? Will she take him back? Will she ask Tyler for a second chance? I guess technically all these are on the table because, well, both of them will be there. But nothing I’ve been told has led me to believe she’s getting together with anyone tonight. It’s a live show. I can’t possibly predict what Hannah’s going to do. I don’t know. But from what I’ve been told, nothing is happening with Tyler, she hasn’t seen him since Greece, so some sort of reconciliation would be happening tonight live if it were to happen. I’ve just been told that it’s not happening. When both Chris Harrison and Hannah are promoting neither of them know what’s gonna happen tonight, it’s kinda hard for me to tell you what is considering it’s live, no? I’m good, but I ain’t that good.

-Hannah has said she wants answers tonight. I’m sure that’s from Jed. Even though he’s explained his side to her at some point during the breakup, she still probably wants to know what he was thinking proposing to her knowing he was that close with someone back home. Hence the reason she drops the “how would you ever be ready to be engaged” line. But what happens from there, is honestly anyone’s guess. I truly don’t know. All I can tell you is what I’ve been told and that’s that she’s done with Jed and she and Tyler are not a thing. How can you be a thing if you haven’t seen each other? But I know some people are convinced they’re flirting online and have been for a month since I keep getting told about it. Not what I’m hearing. We’ll all get our answers tonight. It certainly will be one of the more dramatic finales we’ve ever seen. Whether Hannah stands up to Jed, takes him back, etc, we’ve really never seen anything like this because no one’s f***ed up as much as Jed did post show. Get your popcorn ready.

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  1. crushonspivey

    July 30, 2019 at 9:41 AM

    Seeing the ratings go up actually makes me sad. Means that the train wreck lead, and plane crash guy led to more viewers. People want to see all the dysfunction for entertainment.

    Maybe Mike Fleiss can be the next lead. Based on the previous statement, he’d be perfect.

  2. justsaying

    July 30, 2019 at 10:09 AM

    Peter is fake, fake, fake! The moment Hannah dumped him, you can tell he’s rejoicing internally that he’ll be the next bachelor. His forced limo tears and his phony “sadness” with Chris Harrison.

    Ladies, you know and I know why we dump guys right after sleeping with them, right?? Wink, wink

  3. loca4linda2

    July 30, 2019 at 10:35 AM

    Did anyonehappen to see Coltons Instagram with the comment that a Pilot would make a great bachelor?? Hint Hint. Kudos to the fan that responded and mentioned Jake Pavelka was one and he was far from “good”.

  4. joanne

    July 30, 2019 at 10:47 AM

    I can’t be the only one who thinks there is a double standard here. She (correctly) complains that Jed wasn’t ready for an engagement, but what about her? She had at least four hook ups with Peter, and seemed genuinely heartbroken saying goodbye to him.

    And while Tyler said there was no sex in the fantasy suite, there very well could have been other times. The two had amazing chemistry, and we saw it right up to the end in their final evening together. That last scene of them in his hotel room was hot. He seemed genuinely sincere in sharing his feelings for her, and she admitted she was falling in love with him.

    Meanwhile with Jed, she seemed depressed, and they shared nothing but short kisses. Zero chemistry, and Jed just appeared to be reading lines from a script. No emotion, nothing.

    And in the end it’s Jed she gets engaged to, the guy she had the LEAST chemistry with and the least in common.

    Yet it was only Jed who was not ready for an engagement? The whole thing is ridiculous.

    While I liked Hannah a lot in the earlier stages, she now comes across to be as narcissistic and clearly not ready to settle down with anyone.

  5. justsaying

    July 30, 2019 at 10:57 AM

    Hannah’s heartbroken dumping Peter because she didn’t achieve her happy-ending in the windmill even after 4-times! That’ll bring any lady to tears.

  6. keddo

    July 30, 2019 at 12:39 PM

    Assuming Luke P was watching, I hope he sees that she is definitely not the girl for him, allowing him to get over her.

    How can Peter’s parents seem to be so happy about the fantasy suite sex talk? It’s just weird for Hannah to talk about this in front of his parents, especially after dumping him.

  7. rob22

    July 30, 2019 at 1:24 PM

    I agree with the poster who noted that Jed showed no emotion. Didn’t smile. Seemed totally disinterested in being there. How the heck did he get picked after her parents hated him and after mailing in his last day with Hannah? I guess maybe we just got the negative stuff? But Jed has been like that a lot. I’m dumbfounded how he even got to the overnights. He should have been gone long ago.

    The creepiness factor was pretty high when Peter’s parents were cheering on Peter’s 4-pete in the Windmill. As a parent, I would be horrified. What the hell is wrong with them?! With parents like that, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. They certainly didn’t reflect well on Peter’s values.

    Sorry to say, I do love a good train wreck. Last night was completely boring, but I expect some good fireworks tonight. Hannah hasn’t been shy about trashing people on the show. I expect that Jed is going to get it right between the eyes. But I have to be fair. Hannah’s poor decision making has been on display all season. Especially with the Luke P thing and keeping him around so long and dumping guys who could have been in the mix. Then picking Jed despite the obvious red flags and her parents disliking the guy. I mean, she really caused all the drama with her bad decisions. It’s not like everything was perfect, her parents loved Jed and it all ended in romantic bliss. This was totally predictable. Hannah is not a victim in all this, despite her sometimes acting like it (and sometimes being aware of the fact that she made some bad decisions). I really hope she takes ownership for her outsized role in how this season went down. There are a lot of learnings for her. I suspect her history has been always picking the wrong guys and that was on full display this season.

  8. kdtx

    July 30, 2019 at 1:59 PM

    When the guys met Hannah’s family, Hannah said they’d be meeting her mother and father. Who where the other two people with Hannah’s family? I never saw them identified.

    As others have pointed out, Jed has always seemed flat, like he’s a bad actor reading a script. No emotions. How did Hannah not pick up on that? With Luke, she pulled teeth to get him to have an honest reaction.

    Hannah’s family harped on Jed’s lack of income (maybe due to the edit) and it seemed to be an honest opinion. Money isn’t everything, but being able to make a living is important. I was glad to see that aspect acknowledged instead of a family glossing over an important part of a relationship.

  9. dogmomma

    July 30, 2019 at 2:03 PM

    I’m still shaking my head about Jed’s big breakthrough in the music industry– he wrote a jingle for a dog food commercial??????? I think the guy is a joke. He is one of many who aspires to be famous, and since he isn’t a good musician he decides to go on a reality show to bring him fame. I hope it backfires on him tonight so that future aspiring musicians will think twice about doing a reality show unless it’s a singing competition. I’m still in disbelief that she picked him out of all the guys.

  10. all4one

    July 30, 2019 at 2:25 PM

    I can’t help but wonder if it were “The Bachelor ” and the lead was talking about the girl he just sent home and the 4 times in the windmill how different the reactions would be.

  11. mandirae713

    July 30, 2019 at 2:25 PM

    @rob22 I have to disagree with you on your opinion of Peter’s parents regarding sex. Mature adults, including parents with their adult children should be able to discuss sex in a relationship. That does not make them bad parents and it certainly doesn’t make them creepy. To say the apple doesn’t fall from tree is just ignorance. So you obviously don’t have a that kind of relationship with your parents, but many other people do. Not trying to start a comment war back in forth, just want you to know there are many parent/child relationships out there were you can discuss those feelings. Hell, I know my mom and I sure do and I wouldn’t have it any other way!

  12. justsaying

    July 30, 2019 at 2:41 PM

    @rob22 Peter’s parents were auditioning too for his Bachelor role. They act all supportive (even over the windmill situation, that’s how desperate they are) and I don’t buy his mom’s phony spiel about how she feels more hurt and heartbroken blah blah blah. She’s reading from some lousy script. Indeed, Hannah’s made her own bed but at least, she did end things with the toxic men.

    @kdtx I am glad Hannah’s parents questioned Jed’s income too and that aspect was finally acknowledge on national tv. I have questioned most of the bachelor/ettes contestants source of income for many years and the parents never friggin talk or ask about it!

    I am resentful that Chris H or Hannah didn’t confront Peter regarding the ex-gf coming forward. I guess they are grooming him to be the next Bachelor. Sigh.. Don’t tell me Chris H or Hannah will gloss over Jed’s ex-gf’s expose too. That would be TOTALLY disappointing.

  13. justsaying

    July 30, 2019 at 2:58 PM

    @all4one I agree with you. Although Kaitlyn and Andi too got a lot of grief on their seasons.

    @mandirae713 I believe @rob22 was referring to how public the whole reveal was. Telling everyone how many times they did it on national tv, you have to admit, is out of the norm.

  14. adelina

    July 30, 2019 at 3:30 PM

    I thought Peter’s parents were so cringe-y last night. From his weepy Mom blowing him kisses to the fist pumping over the number of times he had sex. I don’t care how “current” you are – I have three kids in their 20’s and the parents behavior was embarrassing. Peter’s Mom acted like her boy just got released from a POW camp. No one wants to see their kid go through heartbreak but that was just too much.

    I really don’t want Peter for Bachelor. I think he’s in love with love and certainly nothing to look at.

    I really want Mike for Bach. I’d settle for Tyler because he’s so good looking but his personality just plays to the cameras and he’s not exactly a Mensa member.

    I also wish Hannah would just admit she’s happily single and realizes she needs to stay that way for awhile since clearly her picker is off.

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    July 31, 2019 at 6:32 AM

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  16. dogmomma

    July 31, 2019 at 6:34 AM

    After watching the final episode, I’m so glad that Jed had to face his poor decisions with having a girlfriend when he started the show. He almost seemed drugged……. void of emotion and stumbling around to answer questions about Haley. Thank goodness she found out and it’over between them. Hoping that she can get to know Tyler in the normal dating world and that they can date and see if they want a serious relationship down the road. I hope they take their time getting to know each other, which seems like what Colton and Cassie are doing.

  17. safetyprincess

    July 31, 2019 at 7:00 AM

    @adelina Tyler’s not exactly a Mensa member? Maybe not, but he does have his MBA. Sometimes people can be hot and smart.

  18. ctrealitygirl

    July 31, 2019 at 7:03 AM

    I’m wondering what everyone thinks about Tyler agreeing to go on a date with Hannah. I watched a clip from her Jimmy Kimmel interview and when he asked Hannah if she regretted not picking Tyler from the git-go, she made a face, then stumbled to try to describe how she felt, which basically amounted to “I have feelings for him.” I’m thinking she just wants to come out of the experience with something/someone. I’m not sure they can make a go of a relationship, and he could be ruining his chances of being named bachelor. Hannah also commented about not feeling comfortable with any of her “ex boyfriends” as the next bachelor…so thinking she might want to sabotage Tyler. After all the drama she experienced at the end between Luke and Jed, I really don’t think she’s ready to jump into any new relationship. I so LOVE Tyler and hate to see him hurt a second time by her. I’m wondering if production urged her to ask him out?? Also, after hearing Hannah bragging about “f-ing” in the windmill four times with Peter, and all her gushing over Jed in the proposal…why would he want her back???

  19. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 10:29 AM

    First off – I have never seen Tyler acting stupid. What is with this Tyler is not being too bright stuff? He has an MBA (which I have and it is not a cake walk), from what I’ve read, a successful contracting business, plus models on the side. He took care of his Dad’s business when he was sick too. I just don’t get where that is coming from. Did I miss something? A smart, educated, hard working man who has tools and knows how to use them, is good looking enough to model, and loves and takes care of his family – deal me in!

    Jed’s defense that he wasn’t serious with Haley, because he was screwing around with other girls was a crack up. The look on Hannah’s face was priceless. That dude is the not too bright one. Jed is a total player who got exposed.

    Hannah obviously needs some maturity before picking a life partner.

    Tyler way didn’t seem interested in dating Hannah, but couldn’t say no either. Doubt that will go anywhere on both their parts. She already told him she loved someone else (which means she doesn’t love him), and you can’t take that back. Even if that someone else turned out to be a rat. They did that so there was some type of happy ending.

    I also didn’t think Peter seemed upset at all. He was way planning on being the bachelor. As for the sex talk. It has never been my thing to discuss my personal sex life, even with girlfriends and sisters. I just don’t do it, and have regretted it the few time I did. However, I understand other do and it was funny. Mom was over playing her part a bit though.

    To bachelor nation – Please retire the word “Clarity” for the love of all things holy. Use certainty, lucidity, clearness, confidence, surety, whatever just not clarity.

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