We are winding down this season of “Bachelor in Paradise” as only 4 episodes remain, with one of those being the reunion episode that was filmed yesterday. I’m pretty sure I’ll find out later today what went on so I’m guessing I’ll use the opening of tomorrow’s podcast to talk about what happened at the reunion. Tomorrow’s podcast is actually going to be covering something I’ve never talked about on the podcast before, and that’s “Big Brother.” Since this is the first season I’ve actually watched (outside of the two celebrity editions), I now have a ton of questions about this show. So I’ll be bringing on Melissa Deni who covers “Big Brother” extensively for “Rob Has a Podcast.” We are gonna wait until tonight’s episode airs before we record it so it’ll be up to date, and I’m going into this cold. I don’t read anything regarding BB online so I’m curious to see if my opinions are shared by others, or if I’m totally off. Looking forward to discussing this with Melissa tonight. But I should know the basics of what went down at the reunion taping later today, so I will start off tomorrow’s podcast with that info, if not even tweet out a few things in a few hours.
Last night’s episode was mostly about the Derek and JPJ fight. I think there are two issues to discuss here: 1) should it have happened at the wedding and 2) was what JPJ said accurate. Lets first answer question #1. No. Plain and simple. Of course there was zero need to confront Derek at the wedding. Idiotic. If Derek had been running around during the whole reception bad mouthing JPJ, instigating a fight, gossiping behind his back I still think JPJ could’ve waited til they got back to the beach to unload on him. But at least it would’ve made somewhat of sense for JPJ to storm across the room and confront him on it there. Tactless? Yes. There was nothing about what JPJ said that HAD to be done at the wedding and couldn’t have waited til they got back to the beach. Yes, of course production put him up to it and probably egged it on, and yes, they are shitty for doing that, but it’s still on JPJ. Just not smart of him to do it at the wedding.
As for question #2, lets get the exact quote that JPJ was telling, I believe Nicole, about his frustrations with Derek. This is what he said before he confronted him, “Derek has expressed to me multiple times his reaching out to his fans…taking advantage of them sexually as a result of acquiring fame through the process.” All of that was said on camera. It wasn’t a voice over. So JPJ had an issue with hearing that coming from Derek, then Derek going after his woman. Fair enough. I think most guys would. However, since we never saw any footage of it, or have any sort of proof, it becomes a he said, he said. Now, just the accusations in a vacuum of a male from this franchise using his popularity to get laid, is that really impossible to believe? Of course not. We know that goes on. So I don’t immediately dismiss the accusations just because we never heard Derek tell him that or have any proof. Of course it’s a possibility Derek said or did that, and if you immediately dismiss it, then you’re either Team Derek or you’re not being objective. Now, whether or not it DID specifically happen involving Derek, we don’t know.
As for how the argument came across on television, JPJ looked horrible. Take away the whole fact of doing this during a wedding, I’m more talking about afterwards when they were at the bar on the beach and JPJ just kept refusing to give him a chance to speak and saying “no, no, no.” That was the argument of a child. JPJ would’ve come across more believable if he sat there and let Derek tell his side and call him out for lying or whatever. But when you won’t let the other side speak, then yeah, it looks like you’re not so sure on your own argument. Also, I do think Derek was answering JPJ at the wedding and at the bar, but editing didn’t let people see it because they wanted it to seem one-sided. I mean, it’s a straight accusation that JPJ making. Especially when he’s telling Derek “Tell me one thing I said that was inaccurate,” then when Derek tried to answer that, it was either edited out, or JPJ really didn’t let him answer. Looks like this will be a matter which team you’re on to determine who to believe. I don’t know who to believe. We haven’t heard Derek’s side, but, I also don’t think the accusation is far fetched since we know plenty of guys in this franchise who do it.
I think Tayshia is dead wrong in her assessment of the Clay & Angela situation. Just because Clay chooses to talk to her, and Clay chooses to then go on a date with her, doesn’t mean he’s choosing Nicole over her. Seemed like Clay handled about as awkward of a situation as you could get as well as he could. He was respectful to Angela about their breakup, without leading her on thinking he wanted some sort of reconciliation. Yes, he told her he still cared about her, but when you’re with somebody 9 months or whatever, and they were only a few months removed from the breakup, then yeah, your feelings just don’t disappear. But there’s having feelings for someone as a person and still caring about them, but not wanting to be in a relationship with them. And that’s what Clay seemed to be trying to express last night. Yeah, he broke up with her for whatever reasons he had. Angela may not like the reasons, but she has to accept them. No break ups are fun. Or easy. Very rarely does one side of the relationship break up with the other side, and the person being broken up with says, “Yep. Totally get it. Thank you for your time.” Almost never happens, and if it does, then the person being broken up with wanted out too. Breakups are messy. We’re just happening to see theirs play out on TV.
Caelynn really confuses me. Well maybe not because I kinda see right through her. My opinion of her is this: she wants to be in a relationship so bad (probably bc her best friend Cassie is and she feels it would be fun to be in one too), that she just seems to like whoever has interest in her. We saw her connect with Connor at the wedding, and pre-BIP she did interviews where she threw out Connor’s name as someone she’d have an interest in. So this didn’t come out of nowhere. She went on that show for Connor, but they put Dean on the show before him. Other way around, and there probably isn’t a Caelynn/Dean thing. Anyway, after making out with Connor, all the things she seemingly loved about Dean are thrown out the window. She’s saying stuff like “Dean and I could’ve never worked…(Connor) has his shit together…doesn’t live in a van.” Yet we know Dean shows up next week, says he wants her back, and she drops Connor like a bad habit to run off with Dean. Wait, you JUST said “Dean and I could’ve never worked” and you referenced the whole van thing. Caelynn is pretty clueless as to what she wants. For the time being it’s Dean, but we all know that isn’t lasting, so it’s hard to take anything she says at face value.
Next week things are gonna start to heat up as we have 3 episodes to get through 2 more rose ceremonies and there’s still, what, 6 more people that need to come on the show? Chase, Luke S., Old Matt Donald, Revian, Whitney, and Bri. And we still need to show the 4 overnight dates and then decision day of those four couples before having a whole reunion show airing on Tues. the 10th that will serve as the finale. Better hurry up and get through all of this. Only 4 episodes left.
“Reader Emails” begins on Page 2…
jlal
August 28, 2019 at 9:01 AM
JPJ is an immature idiot for approaching Derek at the wedding or at all.
As for his claim that Derek uses his little bit of fame to meet women, DUH. Also, that is not taking advantage of women, if the women are willing participants. Unless he is lying and leading them on, then stop it with women as the victim crap. Women are sexual being too and can have fun with whomever they want.
Caelynn is an immature drama queen. First it was Blake, then Dean, now Conner, then she goes back to Dean. Exactly what RS said, she is so desperate for a relationship she’ll go with whomever will have her. Pathetic. She is not ready for a true relationship.
I don’t get what the women see in Connor or JPJ, yuck on both of them.
While I was not a fan of Krystal or Goose while on the show, I’m happy to see they found love. Good luck to them both.
jlal
August 28, 2019 at 9:05 AM
One other thing – the way Krystal and Goose uninvited everyone from the reception was AWKWARD! Why would they do that?
Also, if production egged JPJ on then shame on them for messing up someone’s wedding. But, I guess if you agree to have them pay and film your wedding you know they’ll be up to something. Still, tacky.
dogmomma
August 28, 2019 at 12:04 PM
I agree with the above comments. I never really liked JPJ to begin with, but I thought he acted like he was wasted. I know that the entire incident was probably manipulated by producers, but even then he acted like he was in middle school. I recall reading that he is now dating Tayshia post show, and all I can say is that she must be desperate.
joanne
August 28, 2019 at 12:08 PM
Demi did an interview for E! and she was asked why she and Kristian didn’t leave the show after they reunited. Demi said it was better to stay on the show because they wouldn’t have the ‘distractions” that they would in real life.
So having cameras following you around and filming your relationship wasn’t a distraction? I agree with Steve and everyone who says this entire thing was preplanned and there was nothing organic about it. So it’s really an insult to viewers.
shenanigans
August 28, 2019 at 1:10 PM
Whenever Steve makes veiled comments about having dirt on Nick Viall, I think the same thing; I desperately want Nick to do his podcast so we can all find out what it is.
I mean, really. Steve continually implies he’s got really juicy stuff that he won’t spill UNLESS Nick does the podcast. But, we’ll never actually hear anything unless that happens.
Make it happen. LOL
ctrealitygirl
August 28, 2019 at 1:34 PM
I agree with jlal and dogmomma. I just don’t see why so many of the women on BIP are attracted to JPJ. When he speaks, all I can think about is Beavis & Butthead. He acts like he’s in middle school. Yikes! And the hair-flipping thing…ick. And I, too, don’t see Connor’s appeal. He’s a bit on the goofy side. But, geesh, how insecure are all the women? Every time a man shows interest in Tayshia, she remarks “I can’t believe they’re interested in me!” She did it with Blake and again with Derek. Caelynn, acts similarly. How is it they are all very attractive yet have no self esteem? And, as jlal, pointed out, Caelynn latches onto any guy who pays any attention to her. The desperate look is NOT a good one on them. I have to agree with Steve that this season is pathetic. The only person I like is Chris Bukowski! And I like him with Katie. They’re the only couple I’m rooting for. Hannah G is pretty pathetic too. That scene where Tahzjuan is sitting in the wicker swing seat ogling all the “happy” couple kissing in the pool was laughable. Every one of them looked bored when they were kissing, like they were just going through the motions, probably mugging for the camera. Ugh. I have yet to watch a complete episode in one sitting…just too painful!
jp22
August 28, 2019 at 1:53 PM
Am just gonna gives some props to Dylan for packing a linen suit. He was the only one of the guys who was dressed anywhere near appropriately for a wedding.
tamara
August 28, 2019 at 7:29 PM
Why is JPJ constantly cleaning his teeth with a toothpick. Eww. Even at the wedding.
dogmomma
August 29, 2019 at 7:02 AM
JPJ is just EWWWW! I hope he is never on another show. I also agree about Connor and am confused on why the girls think he’s so appealing. He and JPJ both sound like surfer dudes. This season made most of the girls seem desperate. I think that Chris B and Katie are cute together, but they are the only couple that seems authentic. Clay and Nicole are a joke… she is full of herself and insecure, and Clay has some commitment issues. What a train wreck of a season, and not in a good way.
ctrealitygirl
August 29, 2019 at 11:39 AM
You said it all dogmomma! BIP is NOT at all entertaining. And now Steve is tweeting that on the reunion show they just taped, Kristina divulges that she brought a non-bachelor related guy to Stagecoach and that Caelynn stole him away and was making out with him before she slept with Blake. Good Lord. What a bunch of fake drama. She’s just as bad as Blake in my eyes. The women are all desperate for male attention. And, for all the hype Mike got before going on BIP, he’s been practically non-existent. But at least he’s sticking to one woman and not acting like a horny teenager. ABC needs to overhaul this show. The premise all BS now.
jeepers
August 29, 2019 at 10:43 PM
Uh, did that emailer say she WASNT judging, because it sure as shite seemed like she was judging to me. People like that give everyone else a bad name. They are why the LGBTQ+ community, the black community, any and all people who identify as different, anyone who is diverse in any way, are scared to come out, or stand up, because these people make straight white people look bad when we arent all that way. Not even close. I’m straight and white, but that kind of attitude pisses me the heck off. Go away, emailer. Just GO AWAY.
jlal
August 30, 2019 at 5:50 AM
I have to weigh in on the Demi crap. I agree with the LBGTQ community that the story line does them no favors. It paints same sex relationships as “different” and not as important as hetro. Otherwise, Demi would have been crucified for lying to Derek and her “girlfriend” never would have been allowed to come on the show. It is cheesy, cheap, and forced.
One more point, BIP and the Bachelor franchise have always been heterosexual shows. I don’t understand the point of mixing it up. I have no problems or issues with homosexual relationships, none. However, the show(s) have not been about that. Produce a homosexual/bisexual show, but don’t confuse the two.
nursej
August 30, 2019 at 2:59 PM
I’m surprised Conner was into Caelynn – Whitney is the better choice IMO.
The show seems to thrive off of all of the petty, immature, and/or scandalous events; platonic relationships are likely perceived as ho-hum and not as profitable.
Dean seems to choose women who are unlikely long-term matches; they are merely fun and easy going, and he’s not going to get hurt (catch feelings) because in his mind they were never seen as potentially “the one”. He’s all about logic. I do enjoy his podcast.