-The group date begins on what would essentially be episode #3. It’s being put on by Revolve and the 8 women on this date must be squealing like school girls once they get to Academy LA and most are meeting their future boss, Raissa Gerona, the Chief Brand Officer for Revolve. Do you know how many of these women post show will have #Revolve #ad on their IG posts now? Like, all of them. I’m surprised Revolve just doesn’t become the corporate sponsor for this show. Every single one of them was realizing the potential that came with this date, and whaddya know, someone who’s already modeled for Revolve in the past ends up “winning” the date. Imagine that? It’s like it was pre-planned or something. That NEVER happens on this show. Until it happens again in 2 episodes with Victoria F’s 1-on-1 date.
-One glaring narrative from this group date is something I got the most emails on, and that was Victoria F.’s incessant crying and insecurity about not wanting to be there, not feeling like she’s being noticed, not feeling confident and continuously saying she’s never gonna be the girl who is the center of attention. This came as a surprise to most people considering what I reported about her pre-Bachelor life back in October. Here’s the thing, just because she’s saying all that and acting that way doesn’t mean it’s true. I don’t buy it. I’ve heard too many specific examples to where the Victoria on TV last night doesn’t make sense from what I’ve been told, and what I’ve actually seen. Words and actions are two completely different things. She talks about not being confident and her insecurities, then she walks on stage in front of an audience in lingerie (which no one else wore), gestured towards Peter, brings him up on stage, and makes out with him. Sorry, not buying it.
-The Hannah Ann and Kelsey feud continued on this date once it was over. Hannah Ann beat Victoria F. in the “finals” of this modeling show which then sent Victoria F. into even more of a tailspin, but because they’d already established before the last rose ceremony that Kelsey didn’t like Hannah Ann, they needed to continue that narrative. And since we all know that this show and its contestants never let sleeping dogs lie, Hannah Ann pulls Peter aside to tell him she feels Kelsey was bullying her. I know bullying is a thing now. We all do. There is some serious online bullying that happens to contestants quite a bit that I’ve pointed out over the last couple years. But Hannah Ann saying she was bullied by Kelsey is doing a complete disservice to those that are actually victims of bullying. Lets not lump these two together. Did she curse at her? Yes. Does she not like her? Yes. Did she call her a princess? Yes. I guess we all have our different definitions of what bullying truly is, and I just don’t see what Kelsey did as bullying. Bullying to me is repeated behavior, over and over and over again directed at an individual to try and intimidate and/or harm them. That’s not what happened here. Kelsey flew off the handle at someone who she thought stole her champagne bottle. From the time of ChampagneGate to this date was only 2 days in real time. How much could she have been attacking her? So the tattle telling by Hannah Ann here was kinda ridiculous.
-Then Peter joins in the fray by playing good cop, pulling Kelsey over to the side after giving Victoria F. the group date rose, and tell her that Hannah Ann came to him saying she felt Kelsey was bullying her. Kelsey responds by saying “She can turn it on…she’s trying to play the victim card.” Kelsey tells him Hannah Ann knew that was her champagne bottle. Peter says Hannah Ann says she didn’t. So we’re basically getting nowhere with that – in the moment at least. Clearly we know (and they know) now it was a producer set up. Both Kelsey and Hannah Ann in this situation were wrong in different aspects. Kelsey was wrong for getting that upset over something so stupid as to a champagne bottle that easily could’ve been handled better (I’m guessing being drunk played a role in her behavior). But Hannah Ann was also run to tattle tale to Peter with claims of bullying on Kelsey’s part. Kelsey was out of line, over the top, and quite bitchy to Hannah Ann over a clear miscommunication (and producer set up), but she wasn’t bullying her.
-I think the biggest things to take from the Kelsey/Hannah Ann feud is that 1) they are clearly over it since it was over 3 months ago now and they’re fine on social media and 2) how manipulative this show can be. Look, we know how much they intervene to create situations that aren’t there. This was a prime example. But this is a production team that season in and season out, even though they love speaking about women empowerment and they love when their show is representative of today’s culture, repeatedly pits women against each other on purpose for the sake of drama. They thrive off women hating on other women on this show. Because if they didn’t, they wouldn’t have an audience. This is not happening organically. Or sure, there have been contestants over the years that just didn’t vibe with others. You’ll always get that with numerous women in the house. But I’m talking about production directly trying to get women to talk shit about another women to create drama and succeeding. It happens every season, and ChampagneGate is one of the most glaring examples ever. Kelsey’s feelings towards Hannah Ann in that moment were 100% founded upon a lie set up by production by letting Hannah Ann open a champagne bottle that she had no idea had any significance to anyone else in the house. Let that sink in.
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crushonspivey
January 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM
The reason this show is so popular is because people want to see the meltdowns, the drama, the bitchiness and the backstabbing. Women eat that crap up seeing other women do those things. I mean, they love it. So long as it doesn’t happen to them, or they aren’t getting the rough edit. This show doesn’t last as long as it has without all the contrived BS and the emotional meltdowns and ridiculousness. It is Bachelor 101. Girl power? LOL. Not here.
Not gonna lie. This Bachelor is a dud so far. He tells all the girls what they want to hear. Seems a bit disingenuous. I mean, there is being nice, then there is being fake. Seems fake, especially after the Hannah B stuff. Totally torpedoed flyboy as actually caring about any of the women on the show. Had she been willing, he would have dumped them all for her right then and there. And now we’re supposed to believe in this journey? LOL. Nope. But I will say his chat with Hannah was the most authentic thing we’ll see all Season.
Last couple guys have been a bit dull. Not gonna lie. Thankfully, the women are giving us the petty drama and excitement to spice up the show. Look forward to the next round of it.
ctrealitygirl
January 14, 2020 at 11:15 AM
I was not jumping for joy when they named Peter as the Bachelor, but after the first episode, I changed my tune a bit and thought he had potential. But, this week – after all the tears and emotional chats with Hannah Brown, only to walk away and declare…”Ok, I’m ready to fall in love with someone new – he lost me. There’s no way he’s completely over Hannah, and I actually felt badly for the women he ends up with having to watch those scenes with Peter and Hannah. And I’m not feeling a lot of the women…Hannah Ann for starters, but Kelsey was quite the drama queen with the whole “Champagne-gate” episode. The whole thing was So immature. Oddly, the one woman Steve threw under the bus for dating married men – Victoria F – I liked the best last night. Steve says he’s definitely not with Hannah B…but I’m thinking that that ending is the only one I’d believe. He’s acting like a kid in a candy store with all his making out sessions. Ugh.
dogmomma
January 14, 2020 at 12:29 PM
From what I’ve seen so far, I’d say that Peter is into Madison the most, and he is very physically attracted to Hannah Ann. It looks like Victoria and Kelsey are there for the drama and not because he is truly into them. I’m sure that production is doing what they do every season by showing us what they want us to see and manipulating the girls every chance they get. I know its early, but at this point it almost seems like they are making Hannah Ann a villain, although not a truly bad villain like some in the past. I could see Peter going after Madison but not proposing because he didn’t get permission from her dad, and therefore just continuing to date her up until the live finale. I could also see Peter getting to the end and Hannah Brown shows up and wants to see if they might be able to give it a shot. I know Steve said that Hannah Brown is gone for good, but I could see that ending happening because we never saw any real closure in their conversation and it seemed like they were trying to talk but not be heard by the cameras. Just a theory but seems possible from what we’ve seen up till now. The hard part is that things never are what they seem because production loves to mess with us. So hopefully we’ll get our finale spoiler as time goes on.
ctrealitygirl
January 14, 2020 at 1:04 PM
I agree with you dogmomma. The fact that the DWTS finale happened almost simultaneously with the Final Rose ceremony of the Bachelor, makes me think that once Hannah B got her mirror ball, she very easily could’ve gotten on the horn with production and begged them to tell Peter that she still had feelings for him. I watched DWTS and Hannah was quite emotional the the whole season and now it’s starting to make sense that part of it could’ve been due to her lingering feelings for Peter and filming the show at the same time as he was starting his season as the Bachelor. I read a few articles back when they ABC was making their decision and it seemed to be a race between Peter, Tyler and Mike…all Hannah’s guys, and she stated more than once that she had a hard time thinking about any of her guys becoming the next Bachelor. And I also agree with the theories that Hannah’s final two picks were actually Jed and Peter – NOT Tyler – and that when she expressed that Jed would be her final pick, ABC asked her to let Peter go at number three so they could pursue him for the starring role. I’d love to see them end up together. And if he doesn’t end up with her, I’d hate to be the woman he picks having to witness their chemistry on the screen. It’s undeniable
dogmomma
January 14, 2020 at 2:42 PM
ctrealitygirl, Well, if all of that were to happen, it would definitely be “the most dramatic season ever”. I’d love to see that ending as well. I don’t know if it’s just me but so far I haven’t seen many of Peter’s girls that stand out in a good way. I think Madison seems very sweet and I like the fact that she has done missionary work. Most of the girls strike me as being pretty shallow and just interested in their Instagram followers once the show is over. I think the show has really changed over the last few years.
And the best part of last night was when the champagne blew up in Kelsey’s face. Couldn’t have happened to a better girl!!! And even better was seeing all the people on Twitter making fun of it. She’s bound to be completely embarrassed after watching that!
crushonspivey
January 14, 2020 at 4:21 PM
All it would take would be a Facetime call with Hannah at the end to create major havoc this year. Not a plane ride. Just screen time. I doubt it happened but it seems to be something more going on than last minutes notification of virginity.
Still think it is down to the final 2, but Hannah B jumping in at the last minute certainly would cause massive drama and put off the final 2 choice. I don’t think it’s gonna happen, but she’d be the only girl in the picture I’d believe he was actually ready to marry.
ladyjane747
January 14, 2020 at 9:14 PM
These girls seem so young and immature. You can’t tell me any of them is ready for marriage! Madison and Hannah Ann are very similar – cute, young, brunettes. Madison looks like a young Maria Shriver with those teeth for days. One of the blondes (not Kelsey) looks kind of like Hillary Swank. Victoria is super annoying and fake – oh, I’m so shy and insecure – let me whip off this coat and prance around in lingerie and kiss the lead. Riiiight. I kind of like one of the Asian women, Tammy? She’s pretty and has personality. Kaitlyn’s friend looks just like Kaitlyn but not as sassy. Peter’s a bore.
mendi
January 15, 2020 at 12:00 AM
Maybe you’ve already thrown this out there, but I’m going to guess that Madison chose to leave because she felt disrespected when she found out Peter slept with another contestant and his mother is begging him to go after her. Perhaps she left without saying goodbye and this is what Chris Harrison is telling him. I can’t imagine he’s breaking the news to him that she’s a virgin…
ctrealitygirl
January 15, 2020 at 6:47 AM
I think your theory might be the most plausible, mendi!
ladyjane747
January 15, 2020 at 6:54 AM
mendi, I agree with Steve, I don’t think Chris Harrison’s news to Peter is all that devastating. If Madison leaves because Peter slept with others and everyone thinks that’s okay, why wasn’t that okay when Luke P. was blasted last season for being upset about the same thing? If a woman can sleep with whomever she wants, whenever, and how many times she wants (4 times in a windmill!) and she’s celebrated for her empowerment, why not the same for a man? I don’t think that’s it, though.
dogmomma
January 15, 2020 at 8:49 AM
Madison could have left because her dad didn’t approve of her getting engaged after such a short time on a TV show. If this is what is so devastating that they are alluding to, then it’s not really that much different than Colton’s season when Cassie left because she wasn’t ready to get engaged. But then again they have to make the audience believe that we’ve never seen this ending before. If Hannah Brown decided to come back into the picture, that would definitely be something that has never happened. Time will tell. And it sure seems like Chris Harrison has been saying that the season could possibly get spoiled “because things get out”. Interesting!
val14
January 21, 2020 at 9:01 PM
So, about the Instagram thing. While I agree that it’s unlikely that someone who is not your family member would have your social media logins and passwords, I have friends who I have their info and they have mine and I’m a grown woman. I’d imagine that younger people would be less likely to think through the potential aftermath of someone having access to their social media. However, I’d bet it’s more common than you’d think.
Also, have you ever been logged in to multiple accounts on Instagram? I’m logged in to 4 currently, (2 business, and 2 personal) and for a while there was another account that it took AGES for me to get deleted from the list.) I get notifications for all of the accounts and if I click on the badge, it takes me to the account it’s notifying on, not the one I last used. It’s actually really easy to accidentally comment on something you shouldn’t if you aren’t being obsessive about checking.
I don’t know what happened, but I also wonder why everyone is so quick to jump to the conclusion that it was some scandalous “cover-up.” Manage multiple accounts on your insta for a few weeks and tell me you don’t have an near-miss moment a few times. Now add in the fact that Madi’s account is EXPLODING with notifications right now. In my opinion, it totally coulda been a friend who made a mistake by clicking the banner and not paying attention. Buy hey, I tend to assume the best in people.