We’ve got A LOT to get to before breaking down last night’s show, which amazingly enough, only got us up to one date after this week’s rose ceremony. They sure are lagging behind this season. However, if I’m judging this correctly, at the end of next week’s episode, it should be ending with rose ceremony #3. So that would fit in correctly and episode 4 would be when they begin travel in Ohio, like it should be since that’s where rose ceremony #4 takes place. I can’t imagine next week doesn’t end with rose ceremony #3. They’ll have to wrap up what happened at the end of the Revolve after party, Victoria P.’s 1-on-1, the shit show that is the pool party and all the drama that happens there, then the rose ceremony. Gotta be. Has to be. If it isn’t, then I just throw my hands up (they’re playing my song, and the butterflies fly away…sorry. Couldn’t help myself) and say I have no idea what’s coming in these episodes anymore. But that should be where we’re at at the end of next week’s episode. Your rose ceremony-by-rose ceremony spoilers are all in one place for you now, along with being posted on my IG feed and IG story last night. As the season goes on I will fill in as much as I begin to hear and will note it on that particular page.
I need to update you on the Fan Appreciation Party June 5th in Las Vegas. I’ve gotten a lot of response in the last week, but a lot more from Vegas locals than I ever expected. I understand it’s much easier for them to RSVP and I’ve never had this many locals respond so quickly. So as I told all of them who emailed me after last week, I’ve already accepted over a 1/4 of my total count from locals. I want to leave it open for the time being for anyone who is booking a flight or driving in. I’m not saying any more locals can’t go, but, I need anyone who’s interested but is flying or driving in to notify me immediately whether you’re coming, so I can start setting aside more spots. If you’re a Vegas local and you emailed me last week, you got my response, and it will be done on a priority list of who emailed me first on whether I can get you in. I will let you know once I have a better idea how many are coming in from out of state. I can already tell you that I can’t accept everyone who’s emailed. My apologies as I should’ve made that more clear in last week’s post, but I’ve never had this many locals email me so quickly. Anyone coming, you can choose to say wherever you want, but if you are interested in a discounted hotel rate at the Venetian, I have one that is 30% off what the rate is on their website currently.
So what happened in “Peter says his season won’t be spoiled” land this week? Well, executive producer Martin Hilton and Chris Harrison both kinda distanced themselves from Peter’s statement in this interview done at the TCA’s this past week. Here are the highlights for you:
Exec Producer Martin Hilton:
“I’m happy he’s confident…In all my years of doing it, it’s always somehow been spoiled.”
“For me, it’s actually sometimes free publicity, honestly. Because I think people watch anyway, and the same way you know how a Disney movie is going to end when you start watching it, people still watch it, because you want to see the journey. So, that’s what we really focus on. And if we were to get upset about spoilers, then I’d be upset all day long.”
Chris Harrsion:
“First of all, he’s new at this, so you can’t make a claim like that,” he quipped. “But I know what he’s actually talking about, which is, it’s a wild finish. It is a season that got turned on its head and is an emotional, dramatic finish.”
So those two essentially what I’ve confirmed all along since I started spoiling. I’ve never done spoilers so you don’t watch the show. I do them so you can watch the show differently. Ultimately this show knows I’m free advertising for them, so they can’t really be all that upset at what I do. But, the ending is their baby. If they didn’t care about the ending being spoiled, then they’d just have the final rose ceremony in public every season. Or allow the lead and their final choice to be out and about in public or on social media where everyone can see them. Very few people read my spoilers and then never watch a minute of the season. The ratings bear that out.
But Chris Harrison’s response is interesting because he specifically says what I spoke on in my podcast a couple weeks ago in that, it’s pretty bold of Peter to just throw that out there his season won’t be spoiled if he’s just hoping people will keep their mouth shut. That’s just dumb on his part. Which led to me and many others believing that he must’ve said that because the ending hasn’t happened yet. Well now I’m beginning to think when Peter said that, he’s talking about what I mentioned in Thursday’s column and podcast, which is he’s more talking about the HOW we get to the point that we do at the end, and not necessarily the WHO. This is a two person race. Peter is not single, nor is he with Hannah Brown (go read Thursday’s column if you haven’t). And for that matter, he’s also not with any of his women who finished 3rd through 30. This is a Madison or Hannah Ann deal, so, for him to say no one will know is kinda silly since anyone has a 50/50 shot of being right. And no, I do not believe, nor have I been given any info that leads to this being a decision he’s gonna make on the ATFR. I just don’t see either woman agreeing to that and, well, just heard nothing of the sort. Who he’s with isn’t gonna be as hard to find out as to HOW we get to that point, because there is some messiness late in the season.
So did you see this silliness that ABC revealed in a press release last week about a new show? This is made by the same production team that does the “Bachelor,” but unlike “The Proposal” this will actually be called “The Bachelor: Listen To Your Heart.” What does that mean? Well for one, it means the franchise is expanding. When they say you might see some familiar faces on there, I don’t think that 100% means it’s gonna be former “Bachelor/ette” contestants (although it may). I think it means that people you may have seen on other shows will appear – like “American Idol.” The second thing is, you can now fully expect some of these people on this show will no doubt be in the crop of contestants they pick from for Paradise as well. If it’s under the “Bachelor” umbrella, it means that those contestants are now part of this “family.” This weird, incestuous, self-absorbed family.
crushonspivey
January 14, 2020 at 10:48 AM
The reason this show is so popular is because people want to see the meltdowns, the drama, the bitchiness and the backstabbing. Women eat that crap up seeing other women do those things. I mean, they love it. So long as it doesn’t happen to them, or they aren’t getting the rough edit. This show doesn’t last as long as it has without all the contrived BS and the emotional meltdowns and ridiculousness. It is Bachelor 101. Girl power? LOL. Not here.
Not gonna lie. This Bachelor is a dud so far. He tells all the girls what they want to hear. Seems a bit disingenuous. I mean, there is being nice, then there is being fake. Seems fake, especially after the Hannah B stuff. Totally torpedoed flyboy as actually caring about any of the women on the show. Had she been willing, he would have dumped them all for her right then and there. And now we’re supposed to believe in this journey? LOL. Nope. But I will say his chat with Hannah was the most authentic thing we’ll see all Season.
Last couple guys have been a bit dull. Not gonna lie. Thankfully, the women are giving us the petty drama and excitement to spice up the show. Look forward to the next round of it.
ctrealitygirl
January 14, 2020 at 11:15 AM
I was not jumping for joy when they named Peter as the Bachelor, but after the first episode, I changed my tune a bit and thought he had potential. But, this week – after all the tears and emotional chats with Hannah Brown, only to walk away and declare…”Ok, I’m ready to fall in love with someone new – he lost me. There’s no way he’s completely over Hannah, and I actually felt badly for the women he ends up with having to watch those scenes with Peter and Hannah. And I’m not feeling a lot of the women…Hannah Ann for starters, but Kelsey was quite the drama queen with the whole “Champagne-gate” episode. The whole thing was So immature. Oddly, the one woman Steve threw under the bus for dating married men – Victoria F – I liked the best last night. Steve says he’s definitely not with Hannah B…but I’m thinking that that ending is the only one I’d believe. He’s acting like a kid in a candy store with all his making out sessions. Ugh.
dogmomma
January 14, 2020 at 12:29 PM
From what I’ve seen so far, I’d say that Peter is into Madison the most, and he is very physically attracted to Hannah Ann. It looks like Victoria and Kelsey are there for the drama and not because he is truly into them. I’m sure that production is doing what they do every season by showing us what they want us to see and manipulating the girls every chance they get. I know its early, but at this point it almost seems like they are making Hannah Ann a villain, although not a truly bad villain like some in the past. I could see Peter going after Madison but not proposing because he didn’t get permission from her dad, and therefore just continuing to date her up until the live finale. I could also see Peter getting to the end and Hannah Brown shows up and wants to see if they might be able to give it a shot. I know Steve said that Hannah Brown is gone for good, but I could see that ending happening because we never saw any real closure in their conversation and it seemed like they were trying to talk but not be heard by the cameras. Just a theory but seems possible from what we’ve seen up till now. The hard part is that things never are what they seem because production loves to mess with us. So hopefully we’ll get our finale spoiler as time goes on.
ctrealitygirl
January 14, 2020 at 1:04 PM
I agree with you dogmomma. The fact that the DWTS finale happened almost simultaneously with the Final Rose ceremony of the Bachelor, makes me think that once Hannah B got her mirror ball, she very easily could’ve gotten on the horn with production and begged them to tell Peter that she still had feelings for him. I watched DWTS and Hannah was quite emotional the the whole season and now it’s starting to make sense that part of it could’ve been due to her lingering feelings for Peter and filming the show at the same time as he was starting his season as the Bachelor. I read a few articles back when they ABC was making their decision and it seemed to be a race between Peter, Tyler and Mike…all Hannah’s guys, and she stated more than once that she had a hard time thinking about any of her guys becoming the next Bachelor. And I also agree with the theories that Hannah’s final two picks were actually Jed and Peter – NOT Tyler – and that when she expressed that Jed would be her final pick, ABC asked her to let Peter go at number three so they could pursue him for the starring role. I’d love to see them end up together. And if he doesn’t end up with her, I’d hate to be the woman he picks having to witness their chemistry on the screen. It’s undeniable
dogmomma
January 14, 2020 at 2:42 PM
ctrealitygirl, Well, if all of that were to happen, it would definitely be “the most dramatic season ever”. I’d love to see that ending as well. I don’t know if it’s just me but so far I haven’t seen many of Peter’s girls that stand out in a good way. I think Madison seems very sweet and I like the fact that she has done missionary work. Most of the girls strike me as being pretty shallow and just interested in their Instagram followers once the show is over. I think the show has really changed over the last few years.
And the best part of last night was when the champagne blew up in Kelsey’s face. Couldn’t have happened to a better girl!!! And even better was seeing all the people on Twitter making fun of it. She’s bound to be completely embarrassed after watching that!
crushonspivey
January 14, 2020 at 4:21 PM
All it would take would be a Facetime call with Hannah at the end to create major havoc this year. Not a plane ride. Just screen time. I doubt it happened but it seems to be something more going on than last minutes notification of virginity.
Still think it is down to the final 2, but Hannah B jumping in at the last minute certainly would cause massive drama and put off the final 2 choice. I don’t think it’s gonna happen, but she’d be the only girl in the picture I’d believe he was actually ready to marry.
ladyjane747
January 14, 2020 at 9:14 PM
These girls seem so young and immature. You can’t tell me any of them is ready for marriage! Madison and Hannah Ann are very similar – cute, young, brunettes. Madison looks like a young Maria Shriver with those teeth for days. One of the blondes (not Kelsey) looks kind of like Hillary Swank. Victoria is super annoying and fake – oh, I’m so shy and insecure – let me whip off this coat and prance around in lingerie and kiss the lead. Riiiight. I kind of like one of the Asian women, Tammy? She’s pretty and has personality. Kaitlyn’s friend looks just like Kaitlyn but not as sassy. Peter’s a bore.
mendi
January 15, 2020 at 12:00 AM
Maybe you’ve already thrown this out there, but I’m going to guess that Madison chose to leave because she felt disrespected when she found out Peter slept with another contestant and his mother is begging him to go after her. Perhaps she left without saying goodbye and this is what Chris Harrison is telling him. I can’t imagine he’s breaking the news to him that she’s a virgin…
ctrealitygirl
January 15, 2020 at 6:47 AM
I think your theory might be the most plausible, mendi!
ladyjane747
January 15, 2020 at 6:54 AM
mendi, I agree with Steve, I don’t think Chris Harrison’s news to Peter is all that devastating. If Madison leaves because Peter slept with others and everyone thinks that’s okay, why wasn’t that okay when Luke P. was blasted last season for being upset about the same thing? If a woman can sleep with whomever she wants, whenever, and how many times she wants (4 times in a windmill!) and she’s celebrated for her empowerment, why not the same for a man? I don’t think that’s it, though.
dogmomma
January 15, 2020 at 8:49 AM
Madison could have left because her dad didn’t approve of her getting engaged after such a short time on a TV show. If this is what is so devastating that they are alluding to, then it’s not really that much different than Colton’s season when Cassie left because she wasn’t ready to get engaged. But then again they have to make the audience believe that we’ve never seen this ending before. If Hannah Brown decided to come back into the picture, that would definitely be something that has never happened. Time will tell. And it sure seems like Chris Harrison has been saying that the season could possibly get spoiled “because things get out”. Interesting!
val14
January 21, 2020 at 9:01 PM
So, about the Instagram thing. While I agree that it’s unlikely that someone who is not your family member would have your social media logins and passwords, I have friends who I have their info and they have mine and I’m a grown woman. I’d imagine that younger people would be less likely to think through the potential aftermath of someone having access to their social media. However, I’d bet it’s more common than you’d think.
Also, have you ever been logged in to multiple accounts on Instagram? I’m logged in to 4 currently, (2 business, and 2 personal) and for a while there was another account that it took AGES for me to get deleted from the list.) I get notifications for all of the accounts and if I click on the badge, it takes me to the account it’s notifying on, not the one I last used. It’s actually really easy to accidentally comment on something you shouldn’t if you aren’t being obsessive about checking.
I don’t know what happened, but I also wonder why everyone is so quick to jump to the conclusion that it was some scandalous “cover-up.” Manage multiple accounts on your insta for a few weeks and tell me you don’t have an near-miss moment a few times. Now add in the fact that Madi’s account is EXPLODING with notifications right now. In my opinion, it totally coulda been a friend who made a mistake by clicking the banner and not paying attention. Buy hey, I tend to assume the best in people.