Reader Emails

“Reader Emails,” Last Night’s IG Live, & Chris Harrison Set to Speak

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Hi Steve,

Do you think that Chris Harrison was at all coached by the Bachelor franchise execs before going on the Extra interview? He put a lot of his views into it, but it seems that it’s an even worse situation if he ran his predicted responses by the franchise first and they still told him to go with it.

Comment: No. Because no one in their right mind would’ve told him to go on the show and say that.
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Having spent years ripping this show you now expect Bachelor to “change the culture”?

This show has been a moral and emotional trainwreck consisting of 20 years of backstabbing, exploitation, bullying, manipulation, and sexual malpractice. This show is your financial bread and butter, Steve. Warts and all. Ka-ching ka-ching for you and it’s meant you never had to go out and get a “real” job. Ummmm, this is a real job, and ignorant statements like that show you have no idea what you’re talking about.

But now, suddenly, with the rise of woke/cancel culture, you’re demanding that this shit show suddenly become a beacon of racial equality and moral virtue that will lead our mighty nation into the future of social justice. My heart goes a pitter patter just before I gag.

“After everything that’s happened, and the litany of stories we’re hearing behind the scenes now of BIPOC contestants being excluded in screen time, and not feeling at all included in this show, what sense does it make to just keep running this show back season after season with the same host and same production crew?”

Being excluded in screen time? Not feeling included in the show? So now you’re all on your moral soap box about how this production crew needs to change because it has mistreated contestants?

When has it ever NOT mistreated contestants? When has it ever NOT been an evil show, Steve? So what you are basically now saying, is that it was okay and very profitable for you and The Bachelor when it was JUST an evil show. But now it may be an evil and RACIST show. And racist is more evil than evil. So now it must change. Because now Bachelor Nation finally has a conscience.

Reality Steve has become Ideal World Steve. Better late than never, I guess.

Comment: This is the problem with people are coming after me for “profiting” off the show. Have you ever read anything I’ve written about this franchise in the last 18 years? And more distinctly, the last 10 where I actually made money off my site? I call them out for the things they do left and right. If I were on ABC’s payroll, and they were paying me to promote their show, blow smoke up the audience’s ass, and overlook all the mistakes they’ve made, THEN I think you’d be absolutely just in calling me out for profiting off their behavior. I’ve done the opposite. And I get paid by the traffic to my site. So clearly people do enjoy what I provide, since I’ve been able to make this site my full time job coming up on 10 years this August because people continue to read me. Check your facts before coming at me with that. You’re way off base.
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for speaking out against the haterz. (You mean like the guy in the previous email? Ha ha) I’m baffled at how people can defend the racist behaviors that we’ve seen recently. It’s kind of ironic how people are calling what’s going on in Toxic BN “cancel culture” and condemning it, while turning around and threatening to cancel YOU for your stance on the matter…. lol wut ?

Anyway, I have a question about TI! Have you ever heard of producers pressuring any of the couples one way or another? I’m sure it would be nothing like the extent of the manipulation on the Bachelor. This season just got me thinking how disappointed I would be if it turned out that none of the couples decided to stay together, and then I wondered if producers ever tried to push anyone toward or away from their relationship to make the outcome of the show more surprising.

Thanks again!

Comment: I mean, in the end, it’s a TV show. And they’ll show clips that clearly may be out of sequence, or reactions to other conversations, etc. That’s what reality TV is. I’m sure it happens on this show, but I haven’t heard specifics of what they do, no.
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Quick fun fact

Heidi Mueller who u referenced on ig live
is married to demarco murray

Comment: Wow. Didn’t know that. This came up on my Clubhouse when I was talking about the reality show on NBC called “Who Wants To Marry My Dad?” The daughter I remember being really good looking. Come to find out she went to get a soap opera acting gig on “Passions” for a while. But man, didn’t know that’s who Demarco Murray married. Interesting.
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Dear Steve,

I can’t believe I’m writing to you. I am someone who resents the amount of time I’ve given to this show, hate-watching it, looking for your spoilers, etc. I wish I could just give it up like so many of my friends have, but I just can’t, for whatever reason.

In any case, I just wanted to express my support for how you’re handling this latest insanity. I cringe to read/hear how many people think Chris or Rachel did nothing wrong when Chris’ interview is the most embarrassing thing he’s ever done (and I already had such little respect for him already, for being part of this show for so long).

I am a white woman who appreciates that you’re taking this opportunity to try to use your enormous platform to educate those who aren’t getting it and don’t want to hear it. I don’t regularly listen to your podcast, but I’m so grateful to you and Taylor for breaking this down for your listeners. That you’re getting so much shit about it is so indicative of where we are as a country; I realize so many of us watch this show just for an escape, but I’m so grateful to you for exposing this show for what it is.

Comment: I love the “I watch this show for an escape, why are we talking about this stuff” take I hear a lot. If you can’t see, or refuse to see, that THEIR OWN BIPOC CONTESTANTS are complaining about their role in the franchise and how uncomfortably they feel on the show, then you’re choosing to bury your head in the sand because you don’t want to have uncomfortable conversations. It’s like people are acting like I’m the only one saying this and I’m trying to make race an issue when it isn’t. Unreal. It IS an issue, and it’s an issue because it was brought about by their own host, and its contestants are the ones saying it is.
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Hey Steve!,

What are your thoughts on ABC taping the ATFR special just so they can edit and spin it to fit whatever narrative they so chose with everything going on?

Thanks!

Comment: Very much a high possibility.
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Hi Steve,

I wanted to write and thank you for denouncing Taylor Nolan’s tweets despite your friendship. I am an Asian American woman and was absolutely disgusted by what she said. The past couple of years I have also been struggling with weight/body image. I don’t normally comment on these Bachelor Nation apologies because I 100% agree with the idea that if the harmful/discriminatory act wasn’t directed at you, it’s not your place to accept the apology. But now I am in one of the affected groups so I feel like I have standing to say that Taylor’s was one of the worst “apology” statements I’ve read. If she intentionally left the tweets up as “part of her journey” why did she not address them until she was called out? Also, accountability means taking responsibility for your OWN actions, not blaming others for things you chose to type. I am normally a very forgiving person but her apology just felt self-serving and disingenuous. Do you have any plans to have her on your podcast again to dive deeper into this? I hope she will speak on this more and show she understands the weight of her words.

Thanks for all the Bachelor work you do regarding matters both on and off the screen.

Comment: She will not be on again anytime soon. And there isn’t much I can add what you said. I agree with all of it.
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Do you think reality TV is still viable in the long run? With the Bachelor, we’ve seen what happened to both Hannah and Matt two of the last three seasons. Even a show like idol or the voice, their narratives can’t really happen in the same way due to social media, not to mention artists being able to use social or YouTube to get discovered – maybe why there hasn’t been a viable new artist from one of those in forever.

Additionally, more and more TV is consumed through on demand and binge watching, cord cutting on the rise with younger adults, and there’s more variety of content through those streaming services, which cuts down on huge audiences.

Alternatively, do you think the format can and will be be modernized somewhat to address those issues? Do you think sports will suffer from that as well, or might that be the anomaly?

Comment: I think it’ll always be viable because of how cheap it is to make and what the returns it brings in terms of advertising money.
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Steve,

I feel really devastated by Taylor Nolan’s tweets. I think that may be weird, since I don’t actually know her, but I really appreciated the awareness she brought to the BLM movement, and to mental health and sexual health. I wasn’t ALWAYS in agreement with her, but I felt like she had a good heart and a good head on her shoulders, and now I feel like I never had a clue who she really was. The only thing I can take from this is that we clearly don’t know people on social media, despite how much we think we know, and that I should stay off Instagram altogether. I sincerely hope that one of her friends sits down with her and has a real heart to heart because I don’t think her apology was a real apology at all. The hypocrisy is stunning. She should have started with, “I’m sorry. I was wrong.”

Comment: Agree.
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Steve,

I’m sure you are getting slammed with emails regarding Taylor’s tweets. I don’t need a reply or expect you to agree with me. Hell, you might even think my take is way off base. I just needed to get my thoughts written out and off my chest. I know she is a friend of yours and in the conversations you or others may have with her regarding this matter all I can hope for is that you all can hold her to the same standards she expects and demands of others.

Frankly, I am so disappointed and frustrated with her tweets and this will forever change the way I look at her. I appreciated Taylor for her fight against racism and for sex positivity. Did I agree with everything she said…no. Did I find her at times to be a little “all knowing”…yes. Any respect I had…it’s gone. For someone who has dissected and rarely accepts an apology from her fellow bachelor nation members this insta apology is atrocious. The fact that it’s only for the BIPOC community is laughable. And the fact she is blaming her tweets on her wanting to fit in with “whiteness” is disgusting and insulting. She is so defensive and coming across as so above it all. It’s a masterclass in gaslighting. How this girl did not delete her entire Twitter account before she went on national television knowing the vile things she had said in her past I’ll never understand. It’s years worth of hate. If you are going to leave your horrific old tweets online because it’s “part of my journey”, that basically offend every group under the sun, you should have (from day 1 when you got a platform from this show) talked about how your old internalized hatred was what propelled you in to the life you are living and work you are doing now. And you can’t be mad or defensive when they come back to bite you in the ass! We’ve NEVER heard her acknowledge this was why she is so passionate about fighting against racism. Honestly, racism was just the tip of the iceberg in the hate she has felt and expressed. For her to hold judgement over Rachael K and Chris Harrison with that past is wild. Who’s to say Rachael and Chris won’t be different people in 10 years after they “do the work” they need to do to understand their wrongdoings? In the meantime it’s okay to ride them? I honestly feel Hannah Brown and Rachael Kirkconnell’s past racist actions were done out of pure ignorance, not hate. Taylor’s tweets (over years) were out of hate. Just because your hate wasn’t made public for 10 years doesn’t make it any less awful. If she wants grace for herself then EVERYONE who makes a mistake deserves grace. Whether it’s on day 1 or year 10.

I grew up with a lot biracial people who have never used the excuse that at times they felt caught between two worlds to spew hate at marginalized groups to fit in with the “white crowd”. I am saddened at the blaming of white people for her wrongdoings…..it was her hating her own blackness. I’m glad she has come to terms and loves herself now, but it truly makes me understand why she has been so hard and frankly so unforgiving to others who have made mistakes. As a white woman who is a nurse and cares for a diverse population and treats EVERYONE as equals I am outraged. The fact that Taylor is a healthcare worker who ridiculed patients online repulses me. Taylor should be ashamed of that smug self righteous apology. She may think she has done the work but after witnessing that apology she better check herself and find a good counselor. I don’t want to hear her (I think 3rd) apology she is going to record today. She demands immediate responses from others and calls them out when they are not fast enough for her. She said what she said the first time. That’s how she really feels.
Looking forward to hearing what you and Ashley will have to say on this.

Tricia

PS. Bekah Martinez had the most spot on best response on Instagram yesterday.

Emmanuel Acho was a FABULOUS choice for ATFR. I can’t wait to watch. He leads with kindness and compassion and is an excellent teacher. Wouldn’t be mad if he ends up with the job permanently.

Comment: This is a very common reaction to what Taylor did. And all those people have every right to feel that way. That’s why she has a loooooooooong road back. I said it yesterday, and I’ll say it again. She disappointed me and let me down. It will forever change how I see her. Is she a friend? Yes. Am I going to pile on? No. I don’t see the point of combatting her hateful tweets with more hate. But will I distance myself more? Absolutely. I will hold her accountable, I told her I would, and I’m guessing we won’t speak as much as we have in the last 6 months or so. I just don’t feel we need to.

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23 Comments

  1. progressive4ever

    March 3, 2021 at 9:13 AM

    Regarding the comment where your response was simply Bye: I stopped reading at the words “woke” and “cancel culture,” terms adopted by the right wing when people are held accountable for their words or actions. These people don’t get it and never will because they Just. Don’t. Care. Thank you for using your platform to bring awareness.

  2. mgb970

    March 3, 2021 at 10:16 AM

    @ progressive4everMarch

    > the words “woke” and “cancel culture,” terms adopted by the right wing

    Thats a ridiculous take. People or groups don’t own words. If you’re going to attack something, attack that email rather than slandering half the country.

    You may also wish to extract yourself from that echo chamber you’re trapped in.

  3. angelfish

    March 3, 2021 at 10:45 AM

    It is beyond ridiculous to try & keep up with all these new “buzz phrases”. Like Progressive4ever, as soon as I see the words “woke” “cancel culture”, “receipts”, and now “do the work”, I move on. Do these people not realize how stupid all these nonsense phrases are sounding? Yes, the rise of social media has spawned the need to basically type in code to save space, but using 6 words when 2 will do is just idiotic. And so little of it makes any sense.
    Tl;dr for most of these letters. Steve has unbelievable patience.

  4. deedadoo

    March 3, 2021 at 1:48 PM

    I liked how you responded to the majority of this concerning Taylor, def a step in the right direction. I appreciate it. The part that’s muddy for me is your comments I keep seeing about “hate for hate.” (On the live and on here) Talking about wanting justice and her to lose her license isn’t hate or relishing in someone’s downfall. That couldn’t be further from the truth. To me, what’s always bothered me about her is I felt like her comments were taking us steps back in terms of racial issues because of the divisive nature and hate on stances she held. Add the fact that she’s a therapist and coaching vulnerable people who seek help, it’s alarming. Someone could have been on the verge of contemplating suicide and ran across her tweets and that might have been the final push. I got my degree in mental health and it’s at the heart of what I do. I have felt super strongly about this and then this came out. I think it’s important to call it what it is. By you saying “hate for hate” I think that’s super inaccurate and you’re totally missing the point and almost downplaying it. I’m not rejoicing in what happened but I am relieved because of the concerns I have had for a long time. Have you ever asked yourself why people have the feelings they do against her? It’s not some conspiracy against Taylor. This isn’t because of “white supremacy” and “silencing the black woman.” There’s a reason, dig deeper.

  5. kr211

    March 3, 2021 at 2:02 PM

    I whole heartedly agreed with this email and think it was thoughtfully and eloquently written. The fact that you stopped reading it over a few buzz words and all Reality Steve could respond with was “bye” tells me you arent ready to face your own hypocrisy.

    Reality Steve – the fact that you would even attempt to defend your friend Taylor, but havent considered perhaps Chris was attempting to do the same with Rachel, confirms that you *really* need to reread the story about Jesus. And maybe take a lesson or 2 before your own past mistakes are brought to light. Because we can find them.

  6. kr211

    March 3, 2021 at 2:04 PM

    exactly! if a large amount of people are ding dong the witch is dead’ing over your grave, there’s usually a valid reason.

  7. GoingBlonde

    March 3, 2021 at 2:09 PM

    The ones who scream the loudest calling everyone racist to the point it loses meaning are usually the ones with the most skeletons in their closet. I for one, am kinda glad this all came out about Taylor. Shuts her up for a while and maybe hopefully for good. No need to hear her nastiness any longer.

  8. deedadoo

    March 3, 2021 at 2:10 PM

    Right! And as much as taylor wants to believe “this is what happens when you challenge white supremacy”- yeah, that’s a no for me, dawg. Nice try, though!

  9. kr211

    March 3, 2021 at 2:10 PM

    Hasnt Chris publicly apologized to Rachel twice now? That’s not good enough for you but Taylor’s defensive, deflective, excuse-ridden “apologies” were and we all just need to leave her alone now?

  10. GoingBlonde

    March 3, 2021 at 2:18 PM

    The fact that Steve could only conjure up Bye as a response to a well thought out email with very valid points shows he has no leg to stand on and is too lazy to do his own work in coming up with anything thoughtful to say. Pathetic.

  11. jaytee404

    March 3, 2021 at 6:10 PM

    Thank you for this Steve. To that long ass email you responded bye to. I’m so happy you did that because that means you saw right through her as I did as did progressive4ever.
    Though eloquently written, I can’t believe the ignorance in current events and all the defensiveness towards white supremacy. She basically defended Rachael k and Chris while blaming POC for going on the show, like wtf? Did I just read that? Rachael k was 21 years old in 2018, I made better decisions than her when I was 12. Anyone with sense or education knows how wrong that was. At 18 you’re a full grown person to comprehend how distasteful what she did was. Her racist actions do not mean she’s racist but she knew exactly what she was doing,she just didn’t care because guess what? She was in her circle with all her white Friends etc,, so she thought it was ok.As far as Chris goes, he poured gasoline on himself, lit the match and burned. No excuses at all for him at his age.
    The problem alot of white people are not understanding is wrong by using the term “woke police” ” cancel culture” is you’re basically saying why is everyone aware of these distasteful events happening, it was better when no one knew and poc were silenced and white supremacy was well and alive. That’s why it was a problem CH said it in the interview and when everyone else uses it to call people that are calling for CH and Rachael to do the work. Yes they apologized, that’s step # 1. Now we need to be shown step by step how they’ll do better. We are not canceling them or not forging them, we are holding them accountable and telling them to do better.

    As for Taylor, yes that is beyond messed up and sickening. She has been doing the work to be better and that’s why she is a therapist today and is passionate about anti racism and any form of bullying because she used to be that person. She was wrong for blaming white supremacy for what she was tweeting but was right in blaming white supremacy for why she hated herself and was bitter about who she was. My family is biracial and I know exactly what I’m talking about here. You can ask me anything and I’ll give you clear as day examples of what we go through.
    Taylor should have used her tweets to show us where she started and where she’s at now, but she never did and that’s where she lost credibility. Cats out the bag and now and it’s a disaster. A better apology and accountability is needed from her too as the 1st step and she needs to keep showing us how she can do better. All 3 were wrong and knew what they did. I see no 4 year Olds here. Even 6,7,8 year Olds know when they are doing something wrong. I was a nanny to a 6 year old who was gigling with her friend and whispering about the N word. When I called them to ask them why they said that, they explained and apologized because they knew how hurtful that word was.6 year Olds and they knew better, so why should we expect a 21 year old not to be aware of her actions?
    Majority of my friend’s and family are white too and guess what? At parties they use all the words Taylor has used and everyone is mad about and even the n word just because they know they are in their circles and I’m sure everyone here does and same goes for my black family members and friends. Heck I’ve used the R word myself but definitely not in Taylor’s context and anger.
    No one is a Saint here, the only difference is we are not in the spotlight and we don’t put our frustrations on Twitter like Taylor did.

  12. shenanigans

    March 4, 2021 at 6:34 AM

    I totally agree with GoingBlonde. The email message that Steve blew off with a simple “bye” was honest, well-reasoned, and totally on point. We are all at different places on this journey and should not be “cancelled” because we aren’t where other people think we SHOULD be. The lack of compassion and understanding that he showed that person was galling.

  13. justanopinion

    March 4, 2021 at 8:16 AM

    I think some people here need to really re-evaluate the depth of how disgusting Taylor’s comments were. The tone towards her in some of these comments versus Chris and Rachael is obvious. People say Rachael should know better because she was 18, and a few sentences later say that Taylor is a therapist today because of the hateful stuff she was saying?? What?? She was ALSO 18 and older when she made those comments. In fact she was already on her track to becoming a therapist when she made a good chunk of those comments. In fact she already HAD CLIENTS and made fun of them in her public tweets. She doesn’t get a pass, or an excuse to be treated more softly, just because she’s a person of color. I am also a person of color who struggled with self hatred at one point in my life and the evil vicious things she took the time to type out for the world to see are a problem. The more important issue here is that Taylor Nolan is a licensed therapist who has publicly broken the trust of her license. What she did is a thousand times more vile than anything Chris or Rachael did. Saying she’s ‘put in the work’ is such a bs excuse. If her intentions were true then she would have talked about these tweets long ago, rather than barking a defensive self-centered ‘apology’ and blaming white people for the hate in her heart. I am so tired of this narrative that the white people should be given higher criticism purely because of their race. Her ‘apology’ showed who she was. She is self-centered, self-serving, and self-righteous.

    At this point I don’t see how people don’t see how truly messed up this is. Please take race out of it and put things into perspective. Rachael made some bad choices and wore some offensive outfits. Chris Harrison talked over a woman and said the words woke police while asking for the world to wait to hear a response from Rachael. Taylor tweeted over 300 times about rape victims, people of colors, overweight people, people with mental and physical disorders. Ask yourself who REALLY deserves to be ‘cancelled’?

    Imagine leaving your therapists office and she TWEETS about you. It’s disgusting.

  14. tinyred500

    March 4, 2021 at 10:27 AM

    I so agree with your excellent comment.

    When dealing with any minority or diversity group and those within them. We shouldn’t be giving ‘anyone’ a free pass for poor or appalling behaviour. That’s why ‘all’ groups of people must be included in the discussion. It’s the only way to bring better understanding and over time…..changes.

  15. ju1ia

    March 4, 2021 at 11:16 AM

    Ok woke Steve, can you seriously stop pushing mark wahlberg as the new host? Are you not aware of the multiple hate crimes he’s been convicted of?? He threw rocks at black children chasing them and yelling “kill the n…..s ” TWICE. Years later he attacked two old Vietnamese men, physically beating them with a plank and calling them racial slurs. This is far worse than anything any bachelor contestant or host has done. Stay woke.

  16. nope

    March 4, 2021 at 11:42 AM

    Ok I just realized this is a different mark walberg (no H). I don’t watch temptation island, I take it back, I’m sorry!

  17. kayakguy

    March 4, 2021 at 2:29 PM

    Well said.

    Now need to find a way to binge watch bachelor Canada this weekend

  18. janiel

    March 4, 2021 at 4:31 PM

    Maybe someday you’ll grow up enough to realize that not everybody CARES what stories were written a couple thousand years ago about somebody who very likely never even existed, let alone was a deity.

    Keep your mythology for yourself. If it comforts you, that’s great. But there’s no reason to inflict it on the rest of us.

  19. janiel

    March 4, 2021 at 4:38 PM

    Of course groups don’t own words, but you can tell a lot about what somebody thinks based on who else tends to use the same language and in what contexts. For example, there is nothing *inherently* racist in the phrase “fourteen words,” but anybody who’s been paying attention knows that that phrase is code for a very *specific* set of fourteen words (“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,”) that is a recognized slogan of the neo-Nazi movement. If somebody throws around the phrase “fourteen words” without a damn clear different context that makes it certain they’re simply ignorant of its coded meaning and not intending it that way, I will think they’re a Nazi and I’ll have excellent reason to.

    Groups don’t own words, but they do adopt them as their own and make it clear that the words mean that somebody is one of that group. If you can hear the phrase “make America great again” and not think the speaker is a Donald Trump fan, you’re simply naive.

  20. tiggertamer

    March 4, 2021 at 8:34 PM

    @janiel The person who wrote the e-mail I think you’re referring to stated that she’s a grandmother, so I doubt she’ll “grow up” much more than she already has, though we will all, hopefully, continue to grow.

    For the most part, I’m not a believer in religion or any deity so, when someone quotes religious scripture, I’m usually skeptical.

    However, proverbs, regardless of where they originate, usually contain words of wisdom “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Compare with, “People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.” Both statements contain wisdom regarding similar situations. Words of wisdom, and the people who quote them, shouldn’t be dismissed just because the words originate from religious scripture.

    I don’t necessarily have the same overall viewpoint at the person who wrote the e-mail, but her message was well-written, respectful, and contained words of wisdom.

    I also appreciated your own words of wisdom in your subsequent post, regarding “fourteen words”. I learned something valuable from you in that post, and I thank you for that.

  21. shellylite

    March 4, 2021 at 11:39 PM

    There is so much wrong with the Bachelor but for that matter most reality shows. Most of them objectify women and I’m not sure I’d call it misogyny but there is rampant sexism in the Bachelor franchise. I think there has been a lot of diversity lately. If you start adding all the people you suggested then you have a different TV show entirely which is fine, but it’s a different product. Call it “Diversity Dating” but it would not be the Bachelor franchise anymore. What I have noticed about this show that bothers me so much lately is the canned phrases that everyone repeats. Calling the show a “journey” “my Journey” “I see you” “hard conversations” “for the right reasons” “authentic and vulnerable” and all the phrases that pop up over and over again, it’s like they are given a script but told to just use the words whenever they can fit them in. It’s so formulatic. The whole concept of everyone being there reciting their canned phrases and hoping a life-long marriage comes out of that is crazy. It’s so fake. I don’t think the audience even expects a proposal at the end anymore.
    Why should marriage even be the goal of the show when so many people don’t get married anymore?

    The Bachelor show(s) is just supposed to be mindless fluffy entertainment but it grew too big and now it’s a political statement. Worst of anything besides the anorexic women is how the male lead always calls them “girls” (Chris Harrison didn’t do that) and how they are nearly always in their 20s. What is wrong with women in their 30s and even 40s? Or 50s? Why does the show have to be so young, when young people probably aren’t even watching it?

    Why do they never eat a bite of food on their “dinner” dates? It’s all so fake and weird.

    I never saw a male lead fake-smile so much as Matt this season. He never looked like he was enjoying any of it.

    Maybe they should just trash the Bachelor/Bachelorette and just do the BIP shows. They are the most fun anyway.

  22. shellylite

    March 4, 2021 at 11:56 PM

    I agree, @justanopinion, Taylor Nolan has some real serious issues and shouldn’t be within a mile of a counseling or therapy job. She is way too off the grid to help anyone else reach any kind of feeling of “normal”. What she wrote on social media was so much worse than wearing bad outfits. I won’t defend RK because she doesn’t want us to defend her, but I don’t think any of her motives were actually racist, and I don’t think CH’s motives were either, but CH is definitely guilty of massive rudeness. He was trying to walk a fine line and defend his show’s “winner”, which is probably what they sent him out to do, and he did what so many other men on TV and radio do- he was rude to a woman, and he diminished her, and he talked over him. All men who do that should be publicly shamed? I don’t know, that would be pretty much all of them.

  23. idontcare

    March 7, 2021 at 3:26 AM

    Agreed. 100 percent. Why did Taylor get off so lightly. Why wasn’t she dragged to the dirt by Rachel Lindsey like Rachael K and Chris H? Do I smell prejudice here? How’s she make out so well when her “mistakes” lasted for years and the most vicious I’ve ever seen? Hmmm

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