Rose Ceremony #3: (Men asking dates, Women giving out roses)
Men (11): Jack, Robby, Diggy, Dean, Ben Z., Adam, Derek, and Daneil. Three guys entering are Tickle Monster (Rachel’s season), Blake Elarbee (Rachel), Fred Johnson (Rachel).
Women (9): Christen, Amanda, Dominique, Kristina, DLo, Raven, Taylor, Lacey, and Jasmine.
Tickle Monster on date with Christen
Fred on date with Dominique
Blake Elarbee with Christen
Robby with Amanda.
The Dean/Kristina/DLo drama continued. Dean would spend a lot of time with DLo during the day, but then spend the night with Kristina. Ben Z. eliminates himself during the cocktail party.
Taylor gives her rose to Derek
Raven to Adam
Lacey to Daniel
Jasmine to Tickle Monster
Amanda to Robby
Dominique to Diggy
DLo to Dean
Christen to Jack
Kristina eliminated herself at this rose ceremony. Was sick of the Dean stuff, gave a little speech about not feeling appreciated, then left.
Eliminated this episode: Kristina Schulman leaves on her own during the rose ceremony. Blake Elarbee and Fred Johnson eliminated at rose ceremony.
Final Dates: (Women arrive, no 4th rose ceremony)
Women (10): Taylor, Raven, Lacey, Jasmine, Amanda, Dominique, DLo, and Christen. Three girls entering are: Jaimi King (Nick’s season) and the twins, Haley and Emily Ferguson (Ben’s season, BIP 3).
Jaimi on date with Diggy
Haley and Emily are set to go on a double date with Jack and Tickle Monster, but Jack ends up cancelling at the last minute. The twins are furious, go off on everybody, tell the whole group to f**k off, then leave.
This is where Chris Harrison comes in and lays down what is to happen from this point forward. The remaining couples’ options are:
1) They can either go home with each other
2) They can go home separately
3) They can have an overnight date
The couples that chose the overnight dates were: Daniel and Lacey, Derek and Taylor, and Adam and Raven.
As for the remaining couples:
Jasmine and Tickle Monster go home separately.
Amanda and Robby go home separately.
Diggy has to decide between Dominique and Jaimi, and decides they’ll all leave separately.
Dean tells DLo he loves Kristina, and they go home separately.
Christen and Jack go home separately.
The show ends filming the morning after all three overnight dates. It’s not like the first three seasons where the final couples walk up to the altar that day, then decide to either break up or get engaged. It just ends the morning after all three couples overnight dates and them talking about their time together. Which is very anti-climactic. There were no engagements. As mentioned earlier, we don’t know if there’s an “After Paradise” this season. There certainly hasn’t been one announced yet, so we don’t know for sure. However, if there isn’t, there will be a reunion show at the end with everybody coming back. It would not be surprising to see an engagement happen at that, most likely Derek and Taylor. They are the couple that spent the most time together apparently, and Derek is with her in Seattle as we speak (her birthday was yesterday). As for other couples, here’s what I know:
-Daniel and Lacey had hooked up before the show ever started. Lacey is goo-goo ga-ga over him. But Daniel is such a famewhore for wanting to be on TV, I’m pretty sure Lacey is way more into him than he is into her. They’re currently “dating,” but that doesn’t mean much in this franchise.
-Adam and Raven I believe are still seeing each other. Again, it’s very hard to know because what these people consider “dating” is not what people who aren’t on TV consider dating. I do know that while production was shut down, Adam hooked up with Sarah, hence the reason she asks him on her date when she arrives. And it’s discussed. Raven I’m told is aware of this and this is discussed between them as well. So if you’re looking at a timeline, here are facts we absolutely know about Adam – all of which happened in about an 8 week time span:
1) What we saw on the “Bachelorette” last night was filmed end of April. He was telling Rachel how much he wanted her.
2) He hooked up with Sarah during the break in between BIP filming in June
3) Two weeks after that, he’s on an overnight date with Raven
So to be honest, your guess is as good as mine. I think Adam and Raven are still seeing each other, but I have no clue what that means considering they in different states. And oh yeah, Sarah now lives in Dallas. Where Adam lives. Have at it.
-Amanda and Robby are currently dating, whatever that means.
-A lot of you saw Jack’s IG story from this past weekend. If not, this is what he posted:
@RealitySteve pls tell me isn't real??!!! pic.twitter.com/dJHwnG2nmv
— marisapojtinger (@marisapojtinger) July 8, 2017
Yeah, they were just messing with people. They’re not engaged. But post show, I do think there’s a mutual interest between Jack and Jasmine.
As for the Dean/DLo/Kristina love triangle – it’s still going on. Dean and DLo have been together since filming ended and both live in LA. Kristina is still in Kentucky. So again, your guess is as good as mine as to what’s really going on. He breaks up with DLo on Paradise by telling her he loves Kristina, yet, he’s hooked up with DLo post-filming. Which makes me think he might’ve been told to do that for TV purposes. But from what I’ve gathered, everything we’re gonna see on this season of BIP with Dean/DLo/Kristina is still playing out as we speak. They’re at odds over him, and he’s still talking/seeing/in contact with both of them, but not exclusive with either. So anyone thinking Dean has a chance to be the next “Bachelor,” you can forget it.
Again, because there’s no engagement that happened out in Mexico, I fully expect to see one during their reunion show in September. And expect it to be Derek and Taylor, which is basically as laughable as you can get. Taylor got the redemption edit she was looking for, and Derek got, ummmmm, well, Derek got a girl from this franchise. Which is 180 degrees opposite of what he told Olivia he wanted when he dumped her over a text.
So keep an eye out on social media over the next month or so. I’m sure you’ll see things here and there. Obviously Jack and Jasmine are already having fun at people’s expense screwing with people making them think they’re engaged when they’re not. So just because you might see two people together post-show doesn’t necessarily mean they are an exclusive couple. We know how this franchise works. Everyone just passes everyone else around. Just keep that in mind when observing on social media. Should make for an interesting season though, that’s for sure.
July 11, 2017 at 11:31 AM
It looked to me like Peter is not over the ex girlfriend. He cried when he talked about her.
July 11, 2017 at 12:43 PM
Agree completely. He seemed too upset about it still.
July 11, 2017 at 1:28 PM
Rachel keeps talking about Bryan being “too good to be true”. Well, if by that she means that he’s got a smooth line for every situation, she’s right. Too bad she doesn’t realize she’s getting Jef Holm 2.0. But what do you expect at this point in the show’s progression? They’ve all got agendas. Bryan’s just happens to be fame & a notch on his belt during the overnights.
July 11, 2017 at 1:55 PM
This season is boring, and whoever was in charge of casting the men needs to be fired. Seriously, so boring, mostly because thee is so litle chemistry between Rachel and most guys. And that is the real drama I want to see. I want to see her with real chemistry with 3 guys or so, see them squirm over it, let it cause natural drama, and watch that.
Instead it is the Bryan show, the guys know it, the guys hate it and are sort of checking out over it, and Bryan is so swarmy it is hard to root for them. Seriously, she made a really poor choice. The guy is a chump.
Also, crazy to me that Rachel’s parents put her in an All Black school through high school, and she is still gonna end up with a cheesy white guy, not a solid one. Damn, some plans just don’t work.
July 11, 2017 at 6:44 PM
Peter’s break-up story was an attempt on his part to audition for The Bachelor. I don’t understand why people don’t like Bryan. He’s sexxxy and he has a sexxxy voice, too! He’s obviously so into Rachel and she can see it. That’s what she wants from a guy – that take charge confidence and 100% dedication to her. She’s always making the first move with Peter. For a smart, strong woman like she is in the workplace, I’m sure she wants to give up some of that control in the bedroom and not always have to take the lead. That’s what Bryan offers and it’s super attractive. Those two put a smile on my face when they’re together, not that I believe they’ll get married – maybe, maybe not. Peter’s too laid back. Also, why was Peter’s hair salt and pepper in the snow but darker at dinner? Did he do a Grecian Formula before dinner or was that snow/ice in his hair? I can’t wait to see Dean’s father. He looks like a whack job! LOL Poor Dean, who looks like Mr. Preppy.
July 11, 2017 at 6:47 PM
Oh, I don’t think Rachel went to an all-black school. She said it was a small, private, co-ed school. When she was talking to Will and he was telling her he grew up in a white area and went to school with mostly whites and that’s why he hadn’t dated many black women, Rachel told him that she’d had the same experience but had been able to find black men to date. That’s what I thought I heard, anyway.
July 11, 2017 at 7:15 PM
Rachel went to a small private school that is about 35% black I would estimate–I was a teacher there. She even mentioned to Will that even though she went to a predominately white school, she was able to find opportunities to date back men.
July 11, 2017 at 7:18 PM
Also, you are correct that Bryan is white but this is referring to his race. He is Latino and many latinos culturally don’t call themselves “white”
July 12, 2017 at 7:00 AM
I do agree that this is not at all interesting this season. My wife fell asleep during the last episode, unfortunately I did not. She asked what she missed & I told her absolutely nothing. This episode had no drama or anything of interest. Even without the spoilers, 95% of us could have predicted what happened. I realize that Dean has a nut job Dad for the overnights entertainment. I have to wonder, though, whether the producers dressed him in the Merlin costume, or at least whether the guy is playing a role to gain attention himself. I was expecting some guy with a gray haired pony tail or man bun. Maybe living in a tiny house and offering up a vegan dinner. And since it’s Colorado, possibly lighting up a blunt after dinner. But, come on. Where do you even find an outfit like that? It comes right out of central casting. I think they literally borrowed it from the Lord of the Rings set. If that was for real, the meds are not working. But, I don’t believe it for a minute.
July 12, 2017 at 8:42 AM
I think part of the reason why the most recent episode was a little dull is because of the guys she kept – Matt and can’t-even-remember-his name. The audience was not invested in these two at all. If she had kept Alex around – funny, attractive, interesting or Will – smart, attractive, a good foil for Rachel or Josiah – a cocky character who get get a rise out of Rachel it might’ve been more interesting when she let them go.
July 12, 2017 at 10:17 AM
So Bryan is sexy as hell, but his “smooth lines” come off sounding sleazy. Also his kisses are gross, but I guess she likes it. I get why she would want to date him but marry him? I find it hard to believe he’s more into her than into himself looking smooth. I do not understand why she’d keep those boring white guys around, and let some others go like the Russian and the horseback riding date guy. I mean at least there seemed to be some level of chemistry there. The other two #5 and #6 guys were basically filler. I still love her though!
July 13, 2017 at 1:14 AM
The whole bachelor /Bachelorette franchise reminds me of highschool. You’ve always got that one group of guys and one group of girls who all share each other. Sleep with each other, get tired of one move on to the next in the group then recycle.
July 13, 2017 at 8:55 AM
I agree Peter does not seem that into her. About some of the guys being boring, I wonder if they just are not getting a good edit. There are some every season that you never see or hear much about, most likely because they’re focusing on the “bad” boy or girl too much.
July 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM
ladyjane747: “Also, why was Peter’s hair salt and pepper in the snow but darker at dinner? Did he do a Grecian Formula before dinner or was that snow/ice in his hair?”
The date was literally taking place within a cloud at sub-freezing temperatures. The very fine water droplets within the cloud condensed as fine ice particles on Peter’s hair. If you’ve ever gone swimming at an outdoor hot spring pool on a cold winter day, you may have experienced something similar.
July 17, 2017 at 8:03 PM
I find all these final guys cheesy and undesirable. I wouldn’t date any of them. I like a manly man and these guys are all too feminine for me. My gaydar is sounding. Bryan, nope, just not buying what he’s selling. I don’t find him sexy or appealing. I felt really bad for Dean during his hometown. I could tell how embarrassed he was. What a whack job that daddy is. Bryans mommy, o heck No! Wouldn’t be caught dead trying to compete with that clincher. Not impressed all around and frankly, I’m disappointed in Rachel’s choices.
July 17, 2017 at 8:08 PM
I meant Bryans mom is a clinger.
July 17, 2017 at 10:23 PM
I think Eric should be the Bachelor, I’m a fan. I like all of Rachel’s final 3 guys. I just hope she doesn’t get played by Bryan.
July 18, 2017 at 11:30 PM
I so agree! Brian gets a little more sleazy each episode! I haven’t been this disappointed in a spoiler since Emily chose Jef, with one F!