A lot of little Bachelor Nation stories to get to today before “Reader Emails.” Obviously the biggest news was the release of the BIP original cast yesterday. Yes, I’m well aware that I haven’t given you much BIP info. Give me a little time. The season just ended. There are some things I know and there some things I don’t know yet. When I get everything I need, then I will spill the info to you. There is a lot to gather when it comes to BIP because of so many different dates, rose ceremonies, etc. The basics of who went out with who is sometimes even hard because obviously people date multiple people. With that said, yes, I am aware of some of the couples, and from what I’m hearing so far (still not 100% yet), but from what I’m hearing outside of Ashley & Jared’s engagement down there, we don’t have any other engagements that took place. Maybe we’ll get one when they tape the finale like they did with Derek and Taylor last year (RIP). But as of now, Jared and Ashley is the only engagement I’m hearing took place on BIP this season, so there’s that.
As for the cast, that’s your OG cast and there might be a couple more guys in the OG cast that are still competing on Becca’s season, hence they weren’t announced. However, there are obviously more people that show up this season at some point. Here is a list I’ve gathered of people I know for sure went on BIP at some point that weren’t OG cast:
Colton Underwood (Becca’s season)
Chris Randone (Becca)
Connor Obrochta (Becca)
Leo Dottavio (Becca)
Kamil Nicalek (Becca)
Benoit Beauséjour-Savard (Winter Games)
Caroline Lunny (Arie’s season)
Jacqueline Trumbull (Arie)
Jenna Cooper (Arie)
Jubilee Sharpe (Ben’s season)
Shushanna Mkrtychyan (Ben)
All those people were on it as well. There are definitely others who were there too, but I haven’t got the full cast yet. The OG cast posted by People.com plus those 11 brings the number of people who appeared to 28. Usually it’s right around 30 who appear at some point, so there’s only a few missing. One major name obviously missing from that list is Bekah Martinez. She never went on the show. Now, when Chris Harrison touts a contestant during the “Tell All” show about coming on Paradise in the past, they’ve always ended up being on. And he did that for Becca back in February during the WTA. They definitely wanted her on. And she was supposed to be on. Then she wasn’t. One of two things happened: either they know she has a boyfriend so it made no sense to put her on there, or, because she has a boyfriend, she decided not to do it. But I was told as of a few weeks ago she was set to go on, and then she didn’t. Who knows? Maybe the Twitter war with Raven turned producers off to her? Or maybe she started the Twitter war once she knew she wasn’t going on? Bekah wants to be an actress and get into TV. She knows what she’s doing when it comes to her social media. I don’t think that Twitter call out of Tia was just completely random and out of nowhere. She knew what shew was doing.
A couple break ups to announce in Bachelor Nation. One I’d been getting a lot of emails on recently due to lack of pictures together and lack of her wearing her engagement ring recently, but it was made official yesterday that Taylor and Derek ended their engagement. I can’t say this is surprising. I believe when I was on Olivia’s podcast months ago (or maybe when it was she did mine back in November) I was asked which of the current engaged couples did I think would be the first to break and Taylor and Derek were who I said. I just didn’t see it between those two. The distance, how quickly it happened, etc. Oh well. Moving on.
Man, hate to be the bearer of bad news here. I hope you’re sitting down for this one. Whew. Ok. Here it goes. I hope you understand this pains me so much to share this info with you that was reported last night. Man. This sucks. Let me get it together first. Ok. I’m ready. Are you? Luke Pell and Holly Allen have broken up – again. Bhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Couldn’t have happened to a better guy. Best part about that story? All the “sources” who gave them “her” side. Even though the quotes didn’t come on record from Holly, they were definitely from either her and she wanted her name left out or came from her “camp.” Nothing we haven’t heard of before when it comes to this guy. Girl moves to Nashville for him, then he basically doesn’t want her anymore. Gee, if only anyone could’ve seen that one coming? It’s wash, rinse, repeat with this guy when it comes to women. I don’t want to say I told you so Holly, buuuuuuuuuuuut yeah, I kinda did. Nothing in that story should surprise anyone who’s followed this guy. It’s stuff you’ve heard me say, and others, time and time again. We saw what went down on Winter Games and how Stassi was treated. We read the whole expose I did over a year ago on the guy. Holly if you ever feel like attaching your name to those quotes or share your Luke Pell experience with the public, by all means, you know where to find me. I’m sure there are people who’d be very interested in hearing exactly what went down after you moved to Nashville for the guy and it didn’t work out.
Did you see that 5 girls from Nick’s season will be on “Celebrity Fear Factor” this season? Forgot this was a show still, but looks like they’re spicing it up with a celebrity version. MTV is basically now the minor leagues for Bachelor Nation shows. The crossover is upon us.
“Reader Emails” begins on Page 2…
jessie
June 27, 2018 at 10:49 AM
Does anyone disagree that Jared and Ashley must want their own TV show and that’s what this silliness is about. She is just to shallow, without charactr, without culture, (he is probably the same) to be interesting on TV. oy!
rob22
June 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM
So, the comment about the older Bachelor’s season, especially that Jason Meznick’s season was so pure…. and the subsequent comments by RS blaming social media and naming (of course) Ben Flatdick and Huan Pah-blow as especially bad seasons…. Well, everyone is forgetting what came right after Jason’s season. That was the Jack Pavelka sh*t-show season with Vienna. Remember now? Is it coming back to you? So, yeah social media definitely changed it, but I think the tone went really dark starting in that season and the show has bounced back and forth ever since. They had Jake and then followed it up with Brad 2.0. They then had Ben and followed it up with Sean to clean up the mess. Then they had a series of losers with Juan Pablo, Farmer Chris, Ben (cleaned it up again) then Nick and Arie, two of the bigger s*it shows ever. Though I found both of those seasons to be entertaining. I expect a cleanup version this time. Therefore, I’m all in on Ben 2.0. I like Becca, but her season is train wreck with all the scandals. Ben 2.0 definitely. The show always reacts to criticsm with a season that they try to play pretty straight.
tinyred500
June 27, 2018 at 2:37 PM
I’m unable to download seasons prior to Jake, so I can’t see how much the shows have changed over the years with regard to social media and its impact. However, the contrived drama and producer induced/produced villain(s) have made the shows just as bad if not worse overall. It has got so irritating to watch and just plain silly. Although Sean’s season was okay, Tierra was kept on far too long, the show focused too much on her and made Sean look naive and stupid in the process. Juan P season although bad in its own way (him!), there was little if any contrived drama. From Chris’s season it went downhill with the cheap contrived drama, including the bachelorette shows. Some people like the drama and villain’s, which I suppose is fine, but surely it’s better for the drama to be natural and real, and for the villain to be truly authentic, but not over-stay their welcome!
Ben 2 Bachelor would be perfectly okay, apart from telling two women he loved them, please not again! Arie’s season was just awful, worse then Juan’s IMO. I’ve not minded Becca’s season so far, better than some of the more recent Bachelorette’s, though I’ve not seen Rachael’s yet.
mariet
June 27, 2018 at 4:14 PM
Ben 2.0? Please, no! He was so boring! Zero personality. The only “interesting” thing about him was his mother’s subtle references to his anger issues. Joe the Grocer is on BIP. He will not find love, and hopefully be the next Bachelor! Yay!
upmyalley
June 27, 2018 at 6:44 PM
Whatever happened to the Bachelor villian Jake the snake Pavelka being brought up when villians are the topic? That dude’s anger was off the charts! As much as I didn’t like Vienna, I felt bad for her when that nut job ripped her a new one on tv. I felt like he had a lot of skeleton’s in his closet particularly with past relationships and how her probably treated past girlfriends. If soc media had an influence then, I bet stuff would’ve come out about him. He was the most desperately fame hungry person this franchise has ever had. He was of short stature too and it was obvious how insecure he was about it. A complete narcisist like many of these people in bach nation.
Watching Becca these past few weeks I find myself not liking her very much. She sure can dismiss these guys like a champ! I’ll have to wait and see how things play out but right now, she seems pretty boring and just my opinion, she’s no knockout but does have sorta average good looks.
upmyalley
June 27, 2018 at 6:50 PM
The earliest seasons I recall were Jason, Deanna and Travis the doctor. Oh and Matt from the UK?
tinyred500
June 28, 2018 at 12:40 AM
I’ve not watched prior the Ben F season, but I will watch Jake. I’ve seen excerpts of his reunion with Vienna and it was ghastly! I wish I could see the really early season’s.
I don’t mind Becca having no trouble sending the men home. 🙂 Most of the goodbyes are usually so drawn out, over the top and disproportionate given they’ve only spent between 15 and 45 minutes with her, even the F2 and F1 only have up to 70 hours spent with the lead.
jlal
June 28, 2018 at 4:20 AM
I have watched every season since the beginning and agree and have said that social media way changed this show. Also agree with upmyalley that Jake Pavelka was a total douche with major issues. Vienna was no prize and frankly I felt like they deserved each other. However, his true colors came out in the reunion (or whatever you want to call it) show and they weren’t pretty. He hid his true nature better than Juan during filming, but it sure shone through afterward.
Luke Pell needs to go away. After what he did on Winter Games to that Russian chick – what a creep!
I think Ben 2.0 would be a total snooze fest. Please find some new blood and for the love of all things holy they don’t have to have a sm following. Actually, it would be so refreshing to have a lead that didn’t have the sm agenda.
Also agree that Becca is brutal when dismissing these guys. I love it though, as she doesn’t waste time and words. On the two-on-one when she just got up and walked away with Jordan without a backward glance I was like “AW SNAP” take that you little instigator.
None of the guys shine for me though, not one. She and Garett without a doubt have the most chemistry. I may be seeing that through the spoiler lens, but she just seems to be going through the motions with all the others. Some seasons it is obvious when this happens, others not so much. But, this season I think it is glaringly obvious she isn’t one bit interested in any other these guys other than Garett.
Also, just for the record what’s his name never actually said Jordan said he would settle for Becca. He said Jordan acted like he’d be settling for Becca or something like that. And, when Chris first asked to butt in, Becca told him twice they had only been talking for two minutes. He totally ignored her and then addressed Wills and asked again. If I was Becca I would have kicked him to the curb right then. I would have said “I just told you we’d only been talking for two minutes, why are you asking Wills now?” How disrespectful to totally ignore her and what she said and then address the guy. What an a-hole!
LynnS
June 28, 2018 at 5:21 AM
May I ask where you are watching older versions of the Bachelor? I can’t find them anywhere.
adelina
June 28, 2018 at 6:49 AM
I would be disappointed in a Ben 2.0 season – nice guy but just way too vanilla.
I wish I would’ve sent Steve an email asking his opinion about Chris Soules and what’s going on with him and his case.
I followed him on Twitter after he killed someone while driving drunk (“allegedly”) out of curiosity to see if he would tweet. He made a return to Twitter on Monday making a couple comments about the show. For some reason I find his presence on social media offensive. I think he should just go away. Anyone else feel the same way or differently?
tinyred500
June 28, 2018 at 6:50 AM
If you’re in America you might be able to download them for free. I’ve bought mine via iTunes and one from Amazon.
tinyred500
June 28, 2018 at 7:32 AM
I think out of respect for the circumstances, whether he’s guilty or not, Chris S should probably refrain from tweeting especially about the shows because they are high profile.
Reading some of the other comments about Social Media I can see how many would have been annihilated for their behaviour etc., on the shows and thereafter had it been around. I was thinking more a long the lines of how contestants use it for their own quasi-fame now etc.
rob22
June 28, 2018 at 9:47 AM
Ha, pretty funny the comments about our buddy Jake. I’m sure he’s hoping everyone forgot his season. As I recall, it’s all coming back, wasn’t he the “snitch” during Jillian’s season. He was the one who came back, I think, after being booted to rat out someone who “wasn’t there for the right reasons”? Usually “the snitch” kind of then attains a very low status where they are only eligible for BIP or BP….. which Jake also did. I seem to remember that it was Jake vs. Vienna in BP… another total S*it show. So to recap, Jake was the snitch in Jillians season, then got the Bachelor gig where he picked Vienna, leading to a completely volatile s***-show, especially on the ATFR or some afterwards show. Then Jake went to BP where he was pitted against Vienna … they were on opposite teams somehow and Vienna was hooked up with, I think, the “guard your heart” guy…. Kasey, right? And if I recall, I think Kasey came from the same season of The Bachelorette as Jake. What a mess! Jake was arguably the worst all around contestant from the franchise. Wherever he went, things were totally f’d up. The other thing I remember from Jake is that he gave out a sort of gay vibe. I really wonder what that dude is up to. I’m sure it’s a mess whatever it is.
LynnS
June 28, 2018 at 2:46 PM
Thanks – I’ll look around!
LynnS
June 28, 2018 at 2:52 PM
I believe Kasey came from Ali’s season. Wasn’t he the one who she left stranded on that snow-covered mountaintop? Ali left with that guy (started with an R) in the helicopter. Reggo or something like that – the one with the broken leg.
upmyalley
June 28, 2018 at 9:25 PM
@rob22 Yes, it was Jake who snitched to Jillian. Don’t forget he went on DWTS too and then pimped himself to other shows. He was so obviously out for fame and his frustration always shone through on all the shows. I too think he was/is a closet gay man. One of those who are afraid his manhood would be in peril if he came out. I also feel he expected to be loved and famous for getting the bach gig and didn’t know how to handle it when it didn’t go that way. He publically blamed Vienna for everything. He sure wasn’t “on the wings of love”. More like a plane crash for that so called pilot.haha!The meanest bachelor ever. The franshise buried him deep.
upmyalley
June 28, 2018 at 9:37 PM
The people who snitch do not usually fare well with the lead in terms of keeping them around. I sorta think Becca is really down about not being worshiped by the guys even though she does have Garrett and Blake. It reminded me of Deanna Pappas just a little when her guys seemed to be enjoying the other guys company more than hers. To be fair though she’s had to deal with so many bad guys with issues. Deanna was just into herself so much and wanted all the guys to prove themselves to her by treating her like a diva. Does anyone remember, wasn’t Jason Mesnick one of her final two?
LynnS
June 28, 2018 at 9:50 PM
Yes and she even let him get down on one knee and propose. I think her ego couldn’t resist it.
tinyred500
June 29, 2018 at 1:10 AM
Have a look on the ABC’s website, they had some if not all the previous seasons, (whilst Arie’s season was airing) they might still be there. I couldn’t view even with a VPN.
jlal
June 29, 2018 at 4:35 AM
OMG I forgot about Deanna and how she let Jason get down on his knee before dumping him, brutal! And, she did get pissy when they weren’t paying attention to her.
So, the franchise hasn’t buried Jake Pavelka very deep, as he was in Vegas promoting Bachelor slot machines at the MGM this past May. I guess he has found love now with an attorney from Arkansas. Can’t believe he is still around after eight years.
tater82
June 29, 2018 at 11:38 PM
Dr Travis Stork, whoo wee!!! Lol <3
upmyalley
July 2, 2018 at 7:12 PM
Jake may be pimping bach slot machines but I highly doubt it is with the franchise blessing! Sounds more like he’s looking for recognition- still- again! Haha! What a fool idiot.