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The Bachelorette 15 - Hannah

The “Bachelorette” Hannah – Finale Part 2 Thoughts, Jed Digging a Deeper Hole, & “Reader Emails”

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Whatever happened to Jed going on IG a few weeks back basically telling everyone to withhold judgment until he told his side? Huh? Whaaaa? Uhhhh, we’re still waiting Jed. Your side? The one you tried to tell to Hannah the day she confronted you on it? Like I said on Twitter, I knew what was gonna happen yet I couldn’t believe the stupidity I was watching. Everything I reported and everything I said Jed would do, he did. I told you that Jed told Hannah about Haley right after the engagement in Greece, but considering they stayed engaged, he had to have downplayed it, since once Haley’s story broke, that’s when she ended the engagement. And that’s exactly what he did and what Hannah did. Like, what was his plan in all this? I’m trying to put myself in his shoes and, yeah, of course he wasn’t 100% honest about Haley to Hannah because as he said, “I was afraid of losing you,” but Jed get this through your warped pea brain, that’s what all cheaters do. Like, do you realize how dumb you sound? Basically I didn’t want to tell you because I didn’t want to lose you. Exactly. That’s why no one who’s ever cheated in the history of cheating has ever come out and admitted their cheating before being caught you dumbass. Because for the most part, the consequence of cheating is losing the person you’re with. The absolute stupidity of this guy baffles my mind.

But then I think about it, and I’m like, “Maybe he actually doesn’t care. He literally thought he was gonna get away with this awful plan, so maybe he didn’t put much thought into it at all.” Last night, Jed’s roommate took to Twitter and posted this:

Look who he surrounds himself with? The stories that I’ve heard about that crew and how they treat women are endless. And these are Jed’s boys. Alec, Logan, others, your gig is up. And they don’t care one bit. They’ll go about their business doing the same thing they’ve been doing for years. It’s what they do. And unfortunately because they’re musicians, women will fall for it, kinda like how Hannah did. But when you see this response from his friends last night, you kinda see why Jed does what he does. These are the types of people he associates himself. They think he did nothing wrong whatsoever and he’s “free” now. Ok buddy. Whatever you want to convince yourself of, feel free. And honestly, I don’t buy a thing Jed was selling last night. I honestly don’t think he cares, I think he tried his best to save face even though he was horrible at it, and I guarantee now that he’s not under the microscope of the show, he’ll be right back to doing what he’s doing. Hell, I heard a story this past weekend before he left he was very much acting single at the bar. That’s this guy’s life. And if he joins in wearing any sort of “Free Jed” shirt, or shows up in those guys IG stories acting like they are, everything he said on TV last night becomes a moot point and he loses all credibility. People barely believe him as it is now, lets see how he handles himself on social media from this point forward. He’s not nearly ready for any sort of relationship, let alone marriage. Maybe someday he’ll grow up but I wouldn’t think it’s happening anytime soon.

So lets talk about some things that happened in regards to the finale. First off, the Kimmel stuff. Normally, Jimmy Kimmel tapes his show at 4pm PST, so on the night of the finale, the final couple actually shows up and tapes his show before they go on the ATFR and we see them for the first time. You’ve seen my tweets in past years right before the finale starts “officially” confirming my spoiler because I’ve heard about the taping beforehand. Well, last night Kimmel didn’t tape his show until 7pm PST because he wanted to include the debates in his monologue. Which is why if you saw his segment with Hannah, she didn’t come out on his couch as a guest like every previous contestant would. It was a taped segment that they just threw in there, and she taped it after the ATFR had filmed, which is the first time in a while that’s happened. I know there was confusion and a few emailers asked that so figured I’d answer it here rather than in “Reader Emails” today.

So spoilers are really getting interesting now because lets face it, social media is what ended up ruining Hannah and Jed’s engagement. The fact this show is now acknowledging media reports, showing the magazine during the episode, having Hannah read it and point it out to Jed…we are in different times my friends. Which means that any and all tips throughout the season are possible hints to something. When I got the first notice that Jed was with Hannah on June 4th, the day before I left for my Vegas party, it took one email back to realize “Oh sh**, this is probably true,” but it still took me two weeks to post the spoiler change. To that person who emailed me, they know who they are, thank you. Your info this season was priceless as everything you told me back on June 4th ended up being true. Of course, I was just doing my thorough follow up when I asked you a million questions in return, but you had it, you gave it to me and I appreciate it. What’s funny is going forward, now it’s almost not even good enough to get the spoiler to the end of the season. There’s what happened at the final rose ceremony of course. But now three of the last four seasons, what’s happened POST FILMING, has brought upon more storylines. So yeah, just because I get the ending now, my work isn’t done. Usually I didn’t have to worry about anything happening post show. I find out what happened at the final rose ceremony, then just sit and wait for the finale to air to be vindicated. But after Arie, Colton, and now Hannah’s season where there was so much post-show activity, all of which I ended up getting and reporting to you, it’s just crazy now to think nothing is ever over any more until the finale airs.

So lets talk about Hannah and Tyler. There was one thing I missed on this season and that was the fact I reported a couple weeks ago there was no chance for a reconciliation. Even reiterated that yesterday. Said she was done with Jed, they weren’t engaged, but that Tyler/Hannah wasn’t happening. That was wrong. I can live with that since, well, most people are happy I was wrong about that part. Watching the show last night, once they didn’t bring Tyler on stage after he got dumped, and knowing Hannah was done with Jed and she’d be single once they did bring Tyler out, you could see what they were setting up. Tyler was in an impossible position. He’s literally the most popular contestant this show has had in recent memory, he’s getting brought on after Hannah has had the worst 90 minutes of her life, everyone in attendance is screaming at the top of their lungs for him, Hannah is laying the groundwork saying she still has feelings, I mean, what could he say at that point? “Nah, I’m good. Not interested.” Please. I’m not saying Tyler isn’t interested in Hannah, because I think he is. I’m just talking about how it played out last night, he couldn’t have said no at that point.

Another question asked numerous times since last night is have Tyler and Hannah been talking, was that pre-planned, etc. Well, they definitely hadn’t seen each other since Greece and they weren’t talking privately to each other before last night. Pre-planned? I guess it all depends on your definition. The fact that production decided to bring Tyler out last after knowing Hannah was single wasn’t done without thought. I’m sure production asked Tyler, and Tyler obviously had a pretty big clue that Hannah was single, if he would possibly be interested, and he told them they would be, so they set it up so he’d come out last after everything with Jed had gone down. So yeah, that part was set up for Hannah to get some sort of happy ending to all of this, but no, they were not talking to each other privately, nor had they seen each other post filming.

What happens from here? I mean, hell if I know. Will they make it? I’d say it’s pretty tough. I do know they probably would’ve had a much stronger chance if she would’ve just picked him in the first place, which I’m sure she regrets now. But no need to ask me when Tyler and Hannah are getting drinks, or if they’re seeing each other going forward…I’m guessing these two will be documenting whatever they’re doing together on Instagram to keep people updated. So just follow them. I highly doubt they’re gonna keep this private. They know what the audience wants, and whatever happens between them I’m sure we’ll be well aware of if you follow their social media. They obviously fell for each other two months ago during filming, but they’re smart by not rushing into things. Some people think Tyler didn’t seem into it, some people think he had no choice, and some people think they’ll get married and stay married until one of them dies. Nobody knows what’s gonna happen. There’s no answers to even have right now. Let them date, see what happens, and let the chips fall where they may. I think she should’ve picked him to begin with as do most people, so who knows if that’ll affect them moving forward. Hannah moved to LA. Tyler is commuting between FL and NY. For these two to see each other, they will have to do the long distance thing for a while. It’s not gonna be easy since she JUST moved, and I don’t think she has plans on moving to the east coast. So if they’re gonna get serious, either Tyler has to move to LA or they have to move somewhere together. My guess is this will fizzle after a few months, they’ll remain friends and end up going their separate ways, but who knows?

Which then brings us to the “Bachelor” question. Again. And nothings changed, other than the fact that unless Tyler and Hannah are completely broken off within the next month, we can take him out of the running this season for the “Bachelor.” Which basically leaves Peter and Mike as your top candidates. Let me throw a third name in there for you now. And it’s not a name I’ve been told has been approached, and I don’t even know if he’d do it, but if we’re saying that Mike is a candidate, how can we not say Clay is a candidate? I mean, if there’s anyone from Paradise they’d even consider, it’d have to be Clay, no? We’ll see him on all 12 episodes, he gets to the end, and he leaves single? Why would Mike be a candidate and Clay not? Clay will actually be fresher on more people’s minds by the end of this thing. Again, I haven’t even heard Clay’s name mentioned, I just thought about the fact we know they can possibly pull from Paradise, and he’s the only name who’s single that I could even see them entertaining. Basically, if Mike is a candidate, then Clay is as well. That announcement won’t be made until the end of the month, so just keep that in mind. Nobody knows anything at this point, nothings been decided, and no one’s been told they are the “Bachelor.” Be patient.

Another great season in the books. One of the best I’ve had on the site in a while. I thank all of you for reading, participating, emailing, listening, etc. It’s what makes the site go. Wanna thank all my sources this season for the job they did. Tons of exclusives broken throughout the season. About another 7 weeks before it all starts up again and the “Bachelor” begins filming. Enjoy “Paradise,” and we keep the same schedule going forward through the end of the season – recaps on Tuesday, “Reader Emails” on Wednesday, and podcast on Thursday. Thanks again everyone for another successful season. “Reader Emails” begins on Page 3…

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  1. dbla31

    July 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM

    Thanks for an awesome season! And thanks for the hope that neither Peter nor Mike will be Bachelor. Just don’t think either would make for a great show. Not saying I wouldn’t watch, I’d never say that, but just not into them. Clay is an interesting choice. I’m hoping they pull someone out of a hat and surprise us as they sometimes have. Also, have to agree, Tyler is in an awful position now. Two good choices, but hard to make one. But with his following, even if he sees where it goes with Hannah and misses the boat on this season, I can totally see him coming back next year.

  2. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 10:03 AM

    I don’t think Tyler was interested, but couldn’t say no. Agree that was just to give everyone a somewhat happy ending. I still want Tyler as bachelor.

    Jed is a really big douche. I cracked up that part of his defense to Hannah was that he screwed around on Haley. What? Did he actually think that made him look better? – Look we weren’t that serious, I was screwing other girls too – Dude is not real bright, or just such a degenerate he doesn’t get it at all.

    Can we please retire the word “Clarity” and phrase “Here for the right reasons”, I’ll scream if I hear either again.

  3. dogmomma

    July 31, 2019 at 10:26 AM

    It seems like the show was encouraging the Hannah and Tyler scenario. They waited to bring him out last, and Chris Harrison had a huge smile on his face when Hannah started talking about how her feelings for Tyler were real during the show, etc. It almost seemed set up so that Hannah would get her happy ending after all, just in a different way. So if they wanted Tyler to be the next Bachelor, I don’t think they would have made it so easy for her to ask him out because it takes him out of the running. And it seems like they wouldn’t want him to say yes to her invitation to go out if he turned around and dumped her to be the next Bachelor because he really wasn’t interested in her. The show used to be more predictable, but times have changed with social media. And this is exactly what the show wants….. we are going to keep talking about this until the next story line rolls around.

  4. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 10:40 AM

    I’m posting both places, because it seemed like more posted today on the first night’s post.

    What is with this Tyler is not being too bright? At the young age of 25 he has an MBA (which I have and it is not a cake walk), a successful contracting business, models on the side, and took care of his Dad’s business when he was sick. A smart, educated, hard working man who has tools and knows how to use them, is good looking enough to model, and loves and takes care of his family – works for me!

    Hannah obviously needs some maturity before picking a life partner.

    Peter was auditioning to be bachelor. As for the sex talk. It has never been my thing to discuss my personal sex life, even with girlfriends and sisters,just don’t do it. However, I understand others do and it was funny. Mom was over playing her part a bit though.

    And yes, I’ll repeat this – To bachelor nation – Please retire the word “Clarity” for the love of all things holy. Use certainty, lucidity, clearness, confidence, surety, whatever just not clarity

  5. wiggy5

    July 31, 2019 at 10:40 AM

    It’s pretty amazing that Jimmy Kimmel and his wife Molly read your spoilers and then claim that they know who the final four are! I mean really? Can anybody really believe that? Very disappointed in him—he kept hammering that home in his interview with Hannah -it was getting very old.

  6. wiggy5

    July 31, 2019 at 10:41 AM

    Also what happened to Peter getting out and for having a girlfriend as well? Why did no one bring that up?

  7. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 10:51 AM

    Hannah’s attempts to pull a Mesnick are gonna be DENIED. If Tyler wanted her, he would have gone for it last night on air. But Hannah royally blew it–as expected–and picked a loser–as expected. What guy would want her after she didn’t pick them, then admitted banging some other dude 4x and played it up for laughs. Tyler has more self respect than that.

    Crappy group of guys to pick from.

  8. ctrealitygirl

    July 31, 2019 at 11:07 AM

    Wow! I commented on yesterday’s recap about the Hannah/Tyler thing and agree with what jlal and dogmomma had to say about it. I felt bad for him being put on the spot. After watching what Jed did to her on the monitor, how was he going to turn her down and look like the bad guy?? And I’ll bet Hannah was egged on by producers for dramatic effect. I’m hoping they go on a date or two, then go their separate ways so he can be the Bachelor!

  9. dogmomma

    July 31, 2019 at 11:31 AM

    Tyler posted a very nicely written message to Hannah on Instagram. There were a ton of comments and half the people said it was his “friend zone” message to her, and the other half said that they hoped things would work out between them. I guess time will tell.

  10. joanne

    July 31, 2019 at 11:43 AM

    Another word I would like to see retired from the show is ‘journey”. It can go along with clarity.

    I agree Tyler was put in a bad spot. The producers wanted him to come out last to give Hannah a least somewhat of a happy ending. Tyler was too much of a gentleman to have refused that. But it seems highly doubtful anything much will come of it, if for no other reason they live thousands of miles away from each other. Might be different if he had relocated to LA as well.

  11. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM

    Tyler was put in a horrible spot. Hannah deservedly proclaimed that she didn’t deserve to be anyone’s 2nd choice, but then blatantly asked Tyler to be hers on Live TV. Talk about a double standard and putting a guy on the spot like that unfairly.

    And seconded on journey being removed from the shows lexicon. Hate it.

  12. angelfish

    July 31, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    Jed is gonna have to shave his face and cut his hair short if he ever wants to get laid again. He’s a total pariah for the near future.

    But then, some women are turned on by douchebag asshats. Not a drop of sympathy for him though, it’s called KARMA, baby!

  13. pdxkg

    July 31, 2019 at 1:18 PM

    While producers claim they have not chosen the next bachelor it is clear Peter is being given the Bachelor edit. There was no way out for Tyler last night and he clearly has no romantic connection to Hannah He did not seem upset at their breakup in Greece, I actually thought he looked relived. He seemed shocked last night when she asked him for a drink. Was he bought there on the pretense of the Bachelor announcement? Mike taking down Luke on ATFR was not a good look for him and looked like a produced edit to discredit him a little too.
    I have to mention the ring. It was seen a lot last night. The producers really need to have more modern looking engagement rings. IMO, they look really dated and IMO I’m not sure it they are diamonds either, but I don’t think they have claimed they are diamonds anyway, just implied.

  14. joanne

    July 31, 2019 at 1:46 PM

    Had not thought of it before, but you are right there was a double standard with Hannah. Tyler was set up, but he handled it as well as he could.

    Another point about last night was Hannah was very gracious towards Jed. I thought she handled that in a very mature way. And she absolutely made the right decision in saying they are done for good. One day Jed might change for the better, but he’s got a LOT of self improvement he needs to do, starting with learning how to treat a woman properly and being faithful in a relationship.

  15. kabuki

    July 31, 2019 at 2:02 PM

    I think the Bachelor is between Peter and Tyler (although I would like it to be Mike). Doesn’t Peter have a proper job as a pilot with Delta (or has he been laid off or furloughed)? How can he possibly take more time off to be the Bachelor? Tyler strikes me as stupid. He can’t string two sentences together and he has no emotion. He’s good looking, but he has zero personality. Can someone with no personality carry a show as the lead? Is Tyler always chewing gum? It seems like it and it is irritating. Spit out the gum, boy! Of the two, I vote for Peter, as he has more personality, but I just don’t understand how this fits in with his career.

  16. tinyred500

    July 31, 2019 at 2:28 PM

    You seriously think Neil Lane would risk his reputation with giving the franchise fake diamonds in the rings? Lol I don’t think they are cube zirconia. They almost always state the worth of the rings and Neil designs new rings for each series. The styles seem very common and popular, you see them everywhere. So I suppose they go for what’s popular. I’m saying they’d all be my choice, but I’ve seen far worse.

  17. tinyred500

    July 31, 2019 at 2:29 PM

    That should be cubic zirconia. 😉

  18. rob22

    July 31, 2019 at 3:02 PM

    The train wreck of this season is entirely on Hannah. Her decisions to keep Luke through hometowns and pick Jed were entirely avoidable. Hannah had plenty of information to know that they were both bad picks. But she kept picking them anyway. Her decision making about men is terrible. And based on her apparently poor history with men means that she was always picking the wrong guys. Well, it made for good TV, but Hannah has a lot to learn if she wants happily ever after. I’m not optimistic for her chances unless she does some serious reflection. And her do over with Tyler reeks of desperation. It’s not going anywhere.

  19. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 3:09 PM

    I agree with you rob. Hannah chose very poorly along the way and at the end. She has plenty of the blame here. She was the lead, she had the control. She probably romanticized the wrong things and devalued the right things. Happens all the time due to immaturity. By men and women.

  20. justsaying

    July 31, 2019 at 3:38 PM

    I thought it was pretty mean of Hannah to put Tyler on another horse date (again). He already indicated he’s bad with horses and there she was, picking him, of all people, to go on thee horse date.

    I don’t know about her asking Tyler out. If she’s truly serious, I want to see her fly to him, truly trying it out with him. After all, he did endure a couple of horse dates, dumped him, didn’t have sex with him, had to hear how she had sex with someone else AND he had to live with Luke for a long, long while. Just sayin..

  21. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 3:41 PM

    I don’t get the Tyler being stupid. He seems like the most thoughtful and mature of the group.

  22. adelina

    July 31, 2019 at 5:01 PM

    But, but ,but @kabuki…Tyler IS smart. He has his MBA !!!!!!!

  23. pdxkg

    July 31, 2019 at 5:04 PM

    Tinyred500 Sorry for the confusion. There are plenty of nartual stones that are whilte like diamonds. I never suggested that cubic zirconia or any fake stones were used.

  24. hulie04

    July 31, 2019 at 5:20 PM

    Hannah fell after getting out of the car and hurt her elbow. Yet, when saying goodbye to Tyler her elbow is fine. Perhaps that scene was filmed later and inserted so we would believe that Hannah was conflicted over picking Jed or Tyler. They knew she had broken up with Jed and needed to make us feel like she should be with Tyler. Thus, when she asked Tyler out it appeared she kind of got a happy ending.

  25. thecuriousgeorgette

    August 1, 2019 at 6:19 AM

    I’ve never been so invested in the Bachelorette until this season. As frustrating as some aspects were, I genuinely enjoyed it and found it entertaining.
    Also, I think why Hannah picked Jed over Tyler was because she and Jed were further along and he seemed like the safer choice. I think she viewed Tyler as being too good to be true and assumed he would be the one with the baggage and scandals because let’s be honest…he’s hot, and it’s hard to believe that a hot guy like that doesn’t have some reputation as a player off-screen. I just sensed she kept him more at distance and was guarded with him than the other runner ups because of that. But I think she genuinely was falling in love with him, too, and had there been a few more weeks left for them to develop, I think she would have picked him.
    A huge part of me wants Hannah and Tyler to find their way back to each other, but maybe that’s just wishful thinking.

  26. ladyjane747

    August 1, 2019 at 6:30 AM

    I think that was unfair what Hannah did to Tyler at the end. She put him on the spot. If he said no, he’d disappoint the audience so he sort of had to go along with it, but he was wrecking his chances to be The Bachelor by saying yes. I felt she had much more chemistry with Peter and they seemed to hit it off so well. Maybe that’s just friend zone stuff, but they seemed so natural together. And I agree that Hannah always thought Tyler was “too perfect” for her. Ugh, really wanted to see Tyler as The Bachelor. And Jed? Where do I start? The dude is a dullard – no emotion – and he’s not that attractive. He looks like that Eraserhead from that old cult movie. I’m sure he’s hopping made at his ex. LOL

  27. ctrealitygirl

    August 1, 2019 at 8:32 AM

    Wow, ladyjane747, you took the words right out of my mouth! I was so pissed when Chris Harrison started goading Hannah about her feelings for Tyler, and could see what it was leading to. I’ve believed in her all along but I feel by doing what she did (asking Tyler out on a date) was acting very selfishly. I’m sure she’s been reading all the viewers comments online about wanting him to be named the Bachelor…and she’s admitted in several interviews that she does NOT want Tyler to be the Bachelor. But i don’t think it’s because she has true feelings for him, but more that she doesn’t want to watch 25-30 women fawning over him. And she painted him into a corner. If he rejects her he’s yet one more guy who disappointed her, and people would remark that he was just looking to be named Bachelor. I actually read an article where he said he wasn’t sure he wanted it, that he thought it might be too much responsibility. Hannah really screwed up. If she wanted him she just should’ve picked him. My guess is that she really held out hope that things with Luke would work out in the end, and when it didn’t, she couldn’t make up her mind. She admitted that it was love at first sight with him, so I’m thinking she just couldn’t transfer those feelings to either Jed or Tyler…so even if Jed wasn’t the scumbag he turned out to be, I doubt they’d have ever gotten married. She needs to stay single a while and process everything that’s happened. I’m praying ABC approaches Tyler when they don’t see anything going on with the two of them. But I agree with everyone…seems like Peter was getting the Bachelor edit for sure the other night

  28. christytuzas

    August 1, 2019 at 7:27 PM


  29. janiel

    August 2, 2019 at 11:32 AM

    To the people claiming that Tyler was “put on the spot” — please. Do you really think the producers didn’t ask him beforehand whether he’d be interested in going out with Hannah again? They can’t take a chance on this ending with a dud refusal on live TV; there is no way they’d leave this to chance. They’d have known up front whether Hannah wanted to ask him, and what his answer would be.They probably didn’t tell Hannah what his answer would be,because they wanted her reaction to be genuine, but he had to have said he was interested or they would never have let it get to that point. They were definitely pushing the “sorta-happy ending,” but in order to do that, they needed to make sure both parties were into it. Tyler was.

    If you want to say they’ll probably end up just friends, I’ll agree with that; the distance and the couple of months apart are enough to make a relationship difficult to start up again. But I’m baffled by this whole thing of “He’s too good to be somebody’s second choice.” Have you never known anybody who tried dating person A in their social circle, and it didn’t work out so they later ended up going out with person B? Doesn’t mean that person B is somehow their less-wanted choice; it means they grew and learned and changed their mind. Person A was their first choice then; person B is their first choice now.This happens in ordinary, non-reality-TV situations ALL THE TIME, and nobody thinks it’s evil or bizarre. It’s just dating. So why is it such a big deal here?

    Just imagine it as if it were all happening off camera, in a normal group of friends. Tyler asks Hannah to go out with him (which, let’s face it, is what they really mean when they “propose” at the end of the series), and she says, “Thanks; I really like you, but I’m seeing another guy right now, and it’s important to me to pursue that and see where it goes.” When that relationship ends — whether that’s five weeks or five years later — Hannah goes back to Tyler and says, “Hey, you asked me out when I was involved and I had to say no. I’m single now, and I’m interested in you. Would you like to go get a drink or something, and see where things go?”

    That’s a totally normal scenario anywhere except the artificial world of reality TV.

  30. nursej

    August 2, 2019 at 2:24 PM

    You can tell who the front runner is by the quality of dates (yachting versus horse riding) and fantasy suite rooms (some are more romantic/luxurious than others).
    I think she believed Tyler was ultimately too good for her in some way and realized it wouldn’t last long term, especially after he watched everything back. I didn’t see them as a match at all.
    Peter wasn’t a match either; they are both naturally horny people in restrained circumstances.
    Don’t see what she saw in Jed at all.
    I would rather watch Tyler’s friend Matt than Mike as Bachelor, if it comes to that.

  31. justsaying

    August 2, 2019 at 4:45 PM

    Tyler and Hannah didn’t kiss and hug goodbye in the TMZ photos. Thursday night is not a date night. If they are serious, make it a Saturday night date.

  32. janiel

    August 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM

    Justsaying, he was seen leaving on Friday morning. Spending the night usually qualifies as a date, no matter what day of the week it is. Neither of them works a standard 9-5, so why would they need to make date night on the weekend?

    I still doubt they’re gonna last, because of the distance thing. But I think it’s pretty obvious that Thursday night went beyond “catching up as friends.”

  33. justsaying

    August 2, 2019 at 11:56 PM

    @janiel Week day meetings are well-known as booty calls or just testing the waters. If they are truly serious, it always need to be a Saturday night. No excuses.

  34. janiel

    August 3, 2019 at 10:02 AM

    Justsaying, that’s the most bizarre “rule” I’ve ever heard of. I know people who have been married for decades who literally never had a date on a Saturday night, because their schedules didn’t work the same way typical employees’ schedules do. I guess in your eyes it’s literally impossible for an ER nurse ever to get serious about a partner, if week-end evenings are a requirement of their job? Or Orthodox Jews who don’t go out after Havdalah ceremony on Saturday evenings, but have their typical dates on Sundays? This whole concept is absurd.

  35. janiel

    August 3, 2019 at 10:12 AM

    Independent of your conviction that somebody died and made you the God of dating rituals, however, this particular case *was* testing the waters, and always meant to be. It would’ve been testing the waters if it had happened on Saturday, too. These two are not serious yet and probably never will be, but it was certainly a *date*. That’s what you do before you are serious, to find out whether you want to get serious about somebody in the first place… which is exactly what they’ve said they were doing.

    Lots of people date seriously on Thursday night, or Tuesday night, or Monday morning, or whenever their personal schedules permit. Lots of people test the waters on Saturday night… and *also* on Thursday night, or Tuesday night, or Monday morning, or whenever their personal schedules permit. This specific couple is testing the waters — by going on a date, which is how testing the waters happens. It seems to have gone pretty well since he stayed till morning. Nobody’s been trying to claim that they’re “serious,” only that it was a date. The notion that somehow it’s impossible for people to date seriously if it’s not taking place on your personally preferred schedule is just silly, but the notion that Tyler and Hannah are going to be serious at this stage of their renewed acquaintance is almost as ridiculous.

  36. justsaying

    August 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM

    @janiel If Saturday nights doesn’t work, Friday nights are serious date nights too.

    Neither Tyler nor Hannah is an ER nurse or an Orthodox the last time I checked. Though if one of them are involved in Havdalah, one can invite the other to the ceremony, no?

  37. Statler Without Waldorf

    August 4, 2019 at 9:17 PM

    My first thought after hearing about Jed hooking up with Haley right before leaving to film…I remember reading somewhere once (maybe even on this site!) they all the contestants get have STD panels run to ensure safety of the Lead. Is that true?

    Depending upon when the blood panels are run, some or these f-boys (and any f-girls) could go on a real sexual joy-ride the night before leaving for the Bachelor Mansion and end up cultivating a pesty STD or worse to share with the Lead during the Fantasy Suites.

    Seems like that could be a major liability unless the contestant’s contracts explicitly outline some sort of “pork at your own risk” clause.

  38. dogmomma

    August 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM

    For everyone hoping that Tyler is the next Bachelor and that he doesn’t go back to Hannah, there was an article that came out saying that Tyler had a date with Gigi Haddid on Sunday, and then another article came out from US Weekly that said Chris Harrison commented that Tyler won’t be considered for the Bachelor since he’s playing the field and doesn’t seem interested in finding his one true love on a reality show.

  39. justsaying

    August 5, 2019 at 4:05 PM

    I knew Hannah and Tyler’s THURSDAY night date wasn’t serious! If it’s any consolation, a Sunday-night-date with Gigi wasn’t a serious date either for you Hannah-and-Tyler fans. Gigi, I have to say, is a fresh start for Tyler and she is a huge star and model and I’m positive she has a posh pad in NYC.

    Hannah did make Tyler eat anchovies on a friggin horse date and then, proceeded to have on another horse date, only to dump him at the end of the show. Tyler does have some pride.

  40. janiel

    August 5, 2019 at 9:56 PM

    I don’t think he’s going to end up serious with anybody in LA if he’s determined to make a life for himself in New York. The distance is too much trouble. But whatever day of the week he saw whom has nothing to do with it.

    I’m mildly surprised that he decided he wasn’t interested in the Bachelor position, but if he’d rather date around right now, he’s at least handling it right. He’s being open with everyone about who else he’s seeing, and he isn’t trying for a position on a show that expects him to settle down very publicly (even if not for very long) with one person, less than three months from the start of filming.

    It’ll probably either be Peter or a dark horse from an earlier season, at this point. I want it to be Mike but I don’t think they really want him unless he blows everybody away on BIP this summer.

  41. ctrealitygirl

    August 6, 2019 at 8:25 AM

    I read that article yesterday, too, dogmomma. And its’ total BS! If Tyler was their 1st choice they’d have offered it to him immediately, as the fans have been screaming for him to be Bachelor. Like last year with Colton, I suspect they have someone else in mind, and after watching last night’s BIP episode, I’m thinking they could be setting up Clay to be the Bachelor. It would shut people up about them having more racial diversity. Just look at his situation…recent break-up with former BIP/Bachelor alum, and from what Steve says, he gets broken up with at the end of this season. Last night a lot of the women were ogling him and his muscles. Just felt to me like a Bachelor audition. So what if Tyler has a few dates with Gigi Hadid?? Or that he spent the night with Hannah (one of them specified that they did not have sex that night, just a similar date to their fantasy suite date where they talked all night. And that would make sense as they have A LOT to discuss right now! For some reason it seems they just don’t want him to be the Bachelor. But Tyler has also stated that he’s not sure he wants it. So perhaps they did approach him and weren’t crazy about his response? I really don’t want it to be Peter. I’d be ok with Mike or even Clay

  42. dogmomma

    August 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM

    I don’t think Hannah wanted to “get back together” with Tyler when he came over last week for the drink. It may have just been closure for both of them and they probably both wanted to talk about things so that they could end up with a friendship rather than having it be awkward. The latest article I read from US Weekly said she is happy exploring being single and so it Tyler. I listened to the Almost Famous podcast when Ben and Ashley I interviewed Tyler. Ben gave him a little “advice” at the end… he told him not to let the fame get the best of him and to stay true to who he is because he has a lot going for him, and a lot of the guys leave the show and turn into f*boys when girls start throwing themselves at the guy (maybe like Blake has done). Tyler seemed very mature in the interview, but he’s just starting to discover this new celebrity status, so time will tell if it sends him over the edge.

  43. jeepers

    August 12, 2019 at 11:30 PM

    Thank you so much for taking the words from my mouth! I am so tired of hearing people say “Tyler’s no ones second choice” She made an mistake. She realized her mistake, and I believe she would have realized it without the People story sooner or later, and she made the right decision once realized it. She didnt ask Tyler out for a drink as a manipulation, she asked him for a drink because she cares about him. The premise of this show is falling for multiple people, not just one, and making a choice at the end. She made a choice, it was wrong. She didnt ask Tyler to get down and propose again, she just asked him to drink a dang beer with her. What is it with this crazy insanity over the boy anyway? Yes he was kind and didnt pressure her to screw him, but there were other, just as awesome guys on this season. Better looking, sweeter, more earnest guys. I just dont get it. I love Hannah Beast. She was the best Bachelorette by miles and I am proud of her strength. Yes, she made mistakes. But you know what? Oh damn people, she’s a human being. A 24 yo human being. Give her a break. Yeesh

  44. jeepers

    August 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM

    Will you be my friend? Lol! You are a voice of reason. Is Saturday night being the only suitable “serious” date night something new? I have never heard that. Been on plenty of real dates that were in the middle of the week, even when I wasn’t a nurse.

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