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The Bachelorette 15 - Hannah

The “Bachelorette” Hannah – Finale Part 2 Thoughts, Jed Digging a Deeper Hole, & “Reader Emails”

Photo Credit: ABC


Sorry, it is in Danish, but you can book the windmill basically anytime you want… airbnb notes that it has overwhelming interest with over 500 views this past week.
Since the Bachelor(ette) is not aired in Europe, it is not surprising why it is not so booked yet.

But it probably will be soon..

Comment: Wanna have sex y/n?

Hi Steve!

After last night’s episode I’m really excited for the shit storm that is going to go down tonight. I trust that your spoilers are true, and even though I’ve always been Team Tyler, I can’t help but think how BIZARRE it was that NEITHER Jed nor Tyler asked Hannah’s dad for permission to marry her. I can’t imagine this was a scene that occurred and was just not shown (especially given it is a traditional Southern family). I remember a recent Bachelorette season (I think it was Jojo with Jordan, could be wrong) it was a huge deal that he didn’t ask permission at the initial meeting. Do you have any insight to whether or not this occurred or if any other Bachelorette final 2 didn’t ask the parent’s permission?

Thanks for all that you do! Can’t wait for Paradise!

Comment: No insight but I would assume both did since one actually did, and the other would’ve if she picked him.

I’d like to point out that when Nick brought up that he had sex with Andi in the fantasy suite there was this huge uproar so why is it ok for Hannah to be announcing how she had sex with Peter? Plus she is going into details about how many times. Just because she is female, doesn’t make it ok if it wasn’t ok for Nick.

Has there ever been a Bachelorette as angry as Hannah? She has been mad more times than I care to count this season.

Comment: Yikes. If this still needs to explained, then it’s pointless.

Just an observation…oval rings are cursed!

Hannah and Jed

Becca and Arie

Jenna and Jordan

Rings that aren’t oval have a higher success rate!

Comment: I haven’t paid attention to shapes of rings over the years, but if you say so…

I’m sure the numbers are far less and maybe easier to think of… have you had any contestants that you never heard anything bad about?

Comment: Very, very, very few.

Hi Steve!

Long time reader- thanks for all you do!

Quick question, to me it seemed obvious but do you know if or think that Hannah and Tyler had spoken before the live show? It totally seemed like they had!


Comment: No, they hadn’t.

Might be too late but lets give it a try

1) Please tell me Peter has a better chance than Mike for the bachelor. I get that the show should have a diverse bachelor, but choosing Mike seems like a force. I have no idea who has a better chance. But both their chances definitely went up seemingly now that Tyler is out of the picture.

2) Why would Tyler do this when he has a chance to be the bachelor instead of being someones second chance?

Comment: I don’t know how I’m supposed to know that. You might wanna ask him. I’ve said all along, I had no idea where his head was at. Didn’t know if he was interested in a reconciliation with Hannah, didn’t know if he wanted the “Bachelor” gig, and didn’t know if he maybe wanted to just disappear and focus on his charity. None of us knew.

Hey Steve ,

One of your male fans here loving the spoilers this year I hate watching this show with my female friends but you make it very interesting !! I’m just curious the shout-out during the finale from ABC towards the People’s article, like when Hannah says “there was a People’s article that dropped about Jed” , do you think if Jeds ex girlfriend had done her story with you first that ABC would’ve given you or your website the same shout-out ? Would they have even had an option not to give you the shout-out if you had done the article first ?

Keep up the hard work man

Comment: There is zero chance that if I had the first interview with Haley, that this show would’ve ever uttered my name during one of their programs. It’ll never happen. Ever. You can count on that.

Hi Steve,

I have two questions for you:

1. How much do BIP cast members get paid? Do they get paid more the longer they last? Not everyone gets paid the same. The minimum per diem this year was $400 a day. Some people got paid a higher per diem. Some people got a flat rate to go. It’s whatever each person negotiated.

2. Does Neil Lane know who the bachelorette is going to pick? Does that affect the ring selection that he offers the final two?

Comment: Yes.

Hi Steve! I was wondering if you saw all the things Tyler’s best friend was posting tonight? His Instagram is @mattjames919 and he is not trying to hide his disapproval of Hannah asking Tyler back out. He said stuff like “man she better be buying” and “hell naw” and tagging Tyler’s younger brother for support. I am surprised at how open he is in his disapproval like he didn’t know this would happen tonight. I’m sure you will address whether you think Tyler was just being polite since it was national tv, but it is incredibly odd that his best friend would post stuff like this right now. Just wondered your thoughts on it and if maybe his friends are so shocked because they didn’t expect him to actually say yes, but Tyler was just too nice. Yeah, I was sent what he posted. Definitely a curious thing to post if you’re supporting your BFF, but maybe he was joking? I don’t know. You’d have to ask him.

Also, I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. You make watching this show 10x more enjoyable! I have a bookmark for your site and another for your Twitter. I am so excited for more of your podcasts and thankful for the voice you’ve used against domestic violence of late.

And my sincerest condolences for the spam of emails you will inevitably get saying “I thought you said she told Tyler!”

Comment: Actually, it hasn’t been too bad. A few here and there, but overall, less than I expected. Maybe because I drilled it into people’s heads in everything I’ve written and said on the podcast since June 18th that it was Jed. Maybe people finally started paying more attention. Not sure, but it definitely hasn’t been a lot.

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  1. dbla31

    July 31, 2019 at 9:38 AM

    Thanks for an awesome season! And thanks for the hope that neither Peter nor Mike will be Bachelor. Just don’t think either would make for a great show. Not saying I wouldn’t watch, I’d never say that, but just not into them. Clay is an interesting choice. I’m hoping they pull someone out of a hat and surprise us as they sometimes have. Also, have to agree, Tyler is in an awful position now. Two good choices, but hard to make one. But with his following, even if he sees where it goes with Hannah and misses the boat on this season, I can totally see him coming back next year.

  2. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 10:03 AM

    I don’t think Tyler was interested, but couldn’t say no. Agree that was just to give everyone a somewhat happy ending. I still want Tyler as bachelor.

    Jed is a really big douche. I cracked up that part of his defense to Hannah was that he screwed around on Haley. What? Did he actually think that made him look better? – Look we weren’t that serious, I was screwing other girls too – Dude is not real bright, or just such a degenerate he doesn’t get it at all.

    Can we please retire the word “Clarity” and phrase “Here for the right reasons”, I’ll scream if I hear either again.

  3. dogmomma

    July 31, 2019 at 10:26 AM

    It seems like the show was encouraging the Hannah and Tyler scenario. They waited to bring him out last, and Chris Harrison had a huge smile on his face when Hannah started talking about how her feelings for Tyler were real during the show, etc. It almost seemed set up so that Hannah would get her happy ending after all, just in a different way. So if they wanted Tyler to be the next Bachelor, I don’t think they would have made it so easy for her to ask him out because it takes him out of the running. And it seems like they wouldn’t want him to say yes to her invitation to go out if he turned around and dumped her to be the next Bachelor because he really wasn’t interested in her. The show used to be more predictable, but times have changed with social media. And this is exactly what the show wants….. we are going to keep talking about this until the next story line rolls around.

  4. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 10:40 AM

    I’m posting both places, because it seemed like more posted today on the first night’s post.

    What is with this Tyler is not being too bright? At the young age of 25 he has an MBA (which I have and it is not a cake walk), a successful contracting business, models on the side, and took care of his Dad’s business when he was sick. A smart, educated, hard working man who has tools and knows how to use them, is good looking enough to model, and loves and takes care of his family – works for me!

    Hannah obviously needs some maturity before picking a life partner.

    Peter was auditioning to be bachelor. As for the sex talk. It has never been my thing to discuss my personal sex life, even with girlfriends and sisters,just don’t do it. However, I understand others do and it was funny. Mom was over playing her part a bit though.

    And yes, I’ll repeat this – To bachelor nation – Please retire the word “Clarity” for the love of all things holy. Use certainty, lucidity, clearness, confidence, surety, whatever just not clarity

  5. wiggy5

    July 31, 2019 at 10:40 AM

    It’s pretty amazing that Jimmy Kimmel and his wife Molly read your spoilers and then claim that they know who the final four are! I mean really? Can anybody really believe that? Very disappointed in him—he kept hammering that home in his interview with Hannah -it was getting very old.

  6. wiggy5

    July 31, 2019 at 10:41 AM

    Also what happened to Peter getting out and for having a girlfriend as well? Why did no one bring that up?

  7. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 10:51 AM

    Hannah’s attempts to pull a Mesnick are gonna be DENIED. If Tyler wanted her, he would have gone for it last night on air. But Hannah royally blew it–as expected–and picked a loser–as expected. What guy would want her after she didn’t pick them, then admitted banging some other dude 4x and played it up for laughs. Tyler has more self respect than that.

    Crappy group of guys to pick from.

  8. ctrealitygirl

    July 31, 2019 at 11:07 AM

    Wow! I commented on yesterday’s recap about the Hannah/Tyler thing and agree with what jlal and dogmomma had to say about it. I felt bad for him being put on the spot. After watching what Jed did to her on the monitor, how was he going to turn her down and look like the bad guy?? And I’ll bet Hannah was egged on by producers for dramatic effect. I’m hoping they go on a date or two, then go their separate ways so he can be the Bachelor!

  9. dogmomma

    July 31, 2019 at 11:31 AM

    Tyler posted a very nicely written message to Hannah on Instagram. There were a ton of comments and half the people said it was his “friend zone” message to her, and the other half said that they hoped things would work out between them. I guess time will tell.

  10. joanne

    July 31, 2019 at 11:43 AM

    Another word I would like to see retired from the show is ‘journey”. It can go along with clarity.

    I agree Tyler was put in a bad spot. The producers wanted him to come out last to give Hannah a least somewhat of a happy ending. Tyler was too much of a gentleman to have refused that. But it seems highly doubtful anything much will come of it, if for no other reason they live thousands of miles away from each other. Might be different if he had relocated to LA as well.

  11. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM

    Tyler was put in a horrible spot. Hannah deservedly proclaimed that she didn’t deserve to be anyone’s 2nd choice, but then blatantly asked Tyler to be hers on Live TV. Talk about a double standard and putting a guy on the spot like that unfairly.

    And seconded on journey being removed from the shows lexicon. Hate it.

  12. angelfish

    July 31, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    Jed is gonna have to shave his face and cut his hair short if he ever wants to get laid again. He’s a total pariah for the near future.

    But then, some women are turned on by douchebag asshats. Not a drop of sympathy for him though, it’s called KARMA, baby!

  13. pdxkg

    July 31, 2019 at 1:18 PM

    While producers claim they have not chosen the next bachelor it is clear Peter is being given the Bachelor edit. There was no way out for Tyler last night and he clearly has no romantic connection to Hannah He did not seem upset at their breakup in Greece, I actually thought he looked relived. He seemed shocked last night when she asked him for a drink. Was he bought there on the pretense of the Bachelor announcement? Mike taking down Luke on ATFR was not a good look for him and looked like a produced edit to discredit him a little too.
    I have to mention the ring. It was seen a lot last night. The producers really need to have more modern looking engagement rings. IMO, they look really dated and IMO I’m not sure it they are diamonds either, but I don’t think they have claimed they are diamonds anyway, just implied.

  14. joanne

    July 31, 2019 at 1:46 PM

    Had not thought of it before, but you are right there was a double standard with Hannah. Tyler was set up, but he handled it as well as he could.

    Another point about last night was Hannah was very gracious towards Jed. I thought she handled that in a very mature way. And she absolutely made the right decision in saying they are done for good. One day Jed might change for the better, but he’s got a LOT of self improvement he needs to do, starting with learning how to treat a woman properly and being faithful in a relationship.

  15. kabuki

    July 31, 2019 at 2:02 PM

    I think the Bachelor is between Peter and Tyler (although I would like it to be Mike). Doesn’t Peter have a proper job as a pilot with Delta (or has he been laid off or furloughed)? How can he possibly take more time off to be the Bachelor? Tyler strikes me as stupid. He can’t string two sentences together and he has no emotion. He’s good looking, but he has zero personality. Can someone with no personality carry a show as the lead? Is Tyler always chewing gum? It seems like it and it is irritating. Spit out the gum, boy! Of the two, I vote for Peter, as he has more personality, but I just don’t understand how this fits in with his career.

  16. tinyred500

    July 31, 2019 at 2:28 PM

    You seriously think Neil Lane would risk his reputation with giving the franchise fake diamonds in the rings? Lol I don’t think they are cube zirconia. They almost always state the worth of the rings and Neil designs new rings for each series. The styles seem very common and popular, you see them everywhere. So I suppose they go for what’s popular. I’m saying they’d all be my choice, but I’ve seen far worse.

  17. tinyred500

    July 31, 2019 at 2:29 PM

    That should be cubic zirconia. 😉

  18. rob22

    July 31, 2019 at 3:02 PM

    The train wreck of this season is entirely on Hannah. Her decisions to keep Luke through hometowns and pick Jed were entirely avoidable. Hannah had plenty of information to know that they were both bad picks. But she kept picking them anyway. Her decision making about men is terrible. And based on her apparently poor history with men means that she was always picking the wrong guys. Well, it made for good TV, but Hannah has a lot to learn if she wants happily ever after. I’m not optimistic for her chances unless she does some serious reflection. And her do over with Tyler reeks of desperation. It’s not going anywhere.

  19. crushonspivey

    July 31, 2019 at 3:09 PM

    I agree with you rob. Hannah chose very poorly along the way and at the end. She has plenty of the blame here. She was the lead, she had the control. She probably romanticized the wrong things and devalued the right things. Happens all the time due to immaturity. By men and women.

  20. justsaying

    July 31, 2019 at 3:38 PM

    I thought it was pretty mean of Hannah to put Tyler on another horse date (again). He already indicated he’s bad with horses and there she was, picking him, of all people, to go on thee horse date.

    I don’t know about her asking Tyler out. If she’s truly serious, I want to see her fly to him, truly trying it out with him. After all, he did endure a couple of horse dates, dumped him, didn’t have sex with him, had to hear how she had sex with someone else AND he had to live with Luke for a long, long while. Just sayin..

  21. jlal

    July 31, 2019 at 3:41 PM

    I don’t get the Tyler being stupid. He seems like the most thoughtful and mature of the group.

  22. adelina

    July 31, 2019 at 5:01 PM

    But, but ,but @kabuki…Tyler IS smart. He has his MBA !!!!!!!

  23. pdxkg

    July 31, 2019 at 5:04 PM

    Tinyred500 Sorry for the confusion. There are plenty of nartual stones that are whilte like diamonds. I never suggested that cubic zirconia or any fake stones were used.

  24. hulie04

    July 31, 2019 at 5:20 PM

    Hannah fell after getting out of the car and hurt her elbow. Yet, when saying goodbye to Tyler her elbow is fine. Perhaps that scene was filmed later and inserted so we would believe that Hannah was conflicted over picking Jed or Tyler. They knew she had broken up with Jed and needed to make us feel like she should be with Tyler. Thus, when she asked Tyler out it appeared she kind of got a happy ending.

  25. thecuriousgeorgette

    August 1, 2019 at 6:19 AM

    I’ve never been so invested in the Bachelorette until this season. As frustrating as some aspects were, I genuinely enjoyed it and found it entertaining.
    Also, I think why Hannah picked Jed over Tyler was because she and Jed were further along and he seemed like the safer choice. I think she viewed Tyler as being too good to be true and assumed he would be the one with the baggage and scandals because let’s be honest…he’s hot, and it’s hard to believe that a hot guy like that doesn’t have some reputation as a player off-screen. I just sensed she kept him more at distance and was guarded with him than the other runner ups because of that. But I think she genuinely was falling in love with him, too, and had there been a few more weeks left for them to develop, I think she would have picked him.
    A huge part of me wants Hannah and Tyler to find their way back to each other, but maybe that’s just wishful thinking.

  26. ladyjane747

    August 1, 2019 at 6:30 AM

    I think that was unfair what Hannah did to Tyler at the end. She put him on the spot. If he said no, he’d disappoint the audience so he sort of had to go along with it, but he was wrecking his chances to be The Bachelor by saying yes. I felt she had much more chemistry with Peter and they seemed to hit it off so well. Maybe that’s just friend zone stuff, but they seemed so natural together. And I agree that Hannah always thought Tyler was “too perfect” for her. Ugh, really wanted to see Tyler as The Bachelor. And Jed? Where do I start? The dude is a dullard – no emotion – and he’s not that attractive. He looks like that Eraserhead from that old cult movie. I’m sure he’s hopping made at his ex. LOL

  27. ctrealitygirl

    August 1, 2019 at 8:32 AM

    Wow, ladyjane747, you took the words right out of my mouth! I was so pissed when Chris Harrison started goading Hannah about her feelings for Tyler, and could see what it was leading to. I’ve believed in her all along but I feel by doing what she did (asking Tyler out on a date) was acting very selfishly. I’m sure she’s been reading all the viewers comments online about wanting him to be named the Bachelor…and she’s admitted in several interviews that she does NOT want Tyler to be the Bachelor. But i don’t think it’s because she has true feelings for him, but more that she doesn’t want to watch 25-30 women fawning over him. And she painted him into a corner. If he rejects her he’s yet one more guy who disappointed her, and people would remark that he was just looking to be named Bachelor. I actually read an article where he said he wasn’t sure he wanted it, that he thought it might be too much responsibility. Hannah really screwed up. If she wanted him she just should’ve picked him. My guess is that she really held out hope that things with Luke would work out in the end, and when it didn’t, she couldn’t make up her mind. She admitted that it was love at first sight with him, so I’m thinking she just couldn’t transfer those feelings to either Jed or Tyler…so even if Jed wasn’t the scumbag he turned out to be, I doubt they’d have ever gotten married. She needs to stay single a while and process everything that’s happened. I’m praying ABC approaches Tyler when they don’t see anything going on with the two of them. But I agree with everyone…seems like Peter was getting the Bachelor edit for sure the other night

  28. christytuzas

    August 1, 2019 at 7:27 PM


  29. janiel

    August 2, 2019 at 11:32 AM

    To the people claiming that Tyler was “put on the spot” — please. Do you really think the producers didn’t ask him beforehand whether he’d be interested in going out with Hannah again? They can’t take a chance on this ending with a dud refusal on live TV; there is no way they’d leave this to chance. They’d have known up front whether Hannah wanted to ask him, and what his answer would be.They probably didn’t tell Hannah what his answer would be,because they wanted her reaction to be genuine, but he had to have said he was interested or they would never have let it get to that point. They were definitely pushing the “sorta-happy ending,” but in order to do that, they needed to make sure both parties were into it. Tyler was.

    If you want to say they’ll probably end up just friends, I’ll agree with that; the distance and the couple of months apart are enough to make a relationship difficult to start up again. But I’m baffled by this whole thing of “He’s too good to be somebody’s second choice.” Have you never known anybody who tried dating person A in their social circle, and it didn’t work out so they later ended up going out with person B? Doesn’t mean that person B is somehow their less-wanted choice; it means they grew and learned and changed their mind. Person A was their first choice then; person B is their first choice now.This happens in ordinary, non-reality-TV situations ALL THE TIME, and nobody thinks it’s evil or bizarre. It’s just dating. So why is it such a big deal here?

    Just imagine it as if it were all happening off camera, in a normal group of friends. Tyler asks Hannah to go out with him (which, let’s face it, is what they really mean when they “propose” at the end of the series), and she says, “Thanks; I really like you, but I’m seeing another guy right now, and it’s important to me to pursue that and see where it goes.” When that relationship ends — whether that’s five weeks or five years later — Hannah goes back to Tyler and says, “Hey, you asked me out when I was involved and I had to say no. I’m single now, and I’m interested in you. Would you like to go get a drink or something, and see where things go?”

    That’s a totally normal scenario anywhere except the artificial world of reality TV.

  30. nursej

    August 2, 2019 at 2:24 PM

    You can tell who the front runner is by the quality of dates (yachting versus horse riding) and fantasy suite rooms (some are more romantic/luxurious than others).
    I think she believed Tyler was ultimately too good for her in some way and realized it wouldn’t last long term, especially after he watched everything back. I didn’t see them as a match at all.
    Peter wasn’t a match either; they are both naturally horny people in restrained circumstances.
    Don’t see what she saw in Jed at all.
    I would rather watch Tyler’s friend Matt than Mike as Bachelor, if it comes to that.

  31. justsaying

    August 2, 2019 at 4:45 PM

    Tyler and Hannah didn’t kiss and hug goodbye in the TMZ photos. Thursday night is not a date night. If they are serious, make it a Saturday night date.

  32. janiel

    August 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM

    Justsaying, he was seen leaving on Friday morning. Spending the night usually qualifies as a date, no matter what day of the week it is. Neither of them works a standard 9-5, so why would they need to make date night on the weekend?

    I still doubt they’re gonna last, because of the distance thing. But I think it’s pretty obvious that Thursday night went beyond “catching up as friends.”

  33. justsaying

    August 2, 2019 at 11:56 PM

    @janiel Week day meetings are well-known as booty calls or just testing the waters. If they are truly serious, it always need to be a Saturday night. No excuses.

  34. janiel

    August 3, 2019 at 10:02 AM

    Justsaying, that’s the most bizarre “rule” I’ve ever heard of. I know people who have been married for decades who literally never had a date on a Saturday night, because their schedules didn’t work the same way typical employees’ schedules do. I guess in your eyes it’s literally impossible for an ER nurse ever to get serious about a partner, if week-end evenings are a requirement of their job? Or Orthodox Jews who don’t go out after Havdalah ceremony on Saturday evenings, but have their typical dates on Sundays? This whole concept is absurd.

  35. janiel

    August 3, 2019 at 10:12 AM

    Independent of your conviction that somebody died and made you the God of dating rituals, however, this particular case *was* testing the waters, and always meant to be. It would’ve been testing the waters if it had happened on Saturday, too. These two are not serious yet and probably never will be, but it was certainly a *date*. That’s what you do before you are serious, to find out whether you want to get serious about somebody in the first place… which is exactly what they’ve said they were doing.

    Lots of people date seriously on Thursday night, or Tuesday night, or Monday morning, or whenever their personal schedules permit. Lots of people test the waters on Saturday night… and *also* on Thursday night, or Tuesday night, or Monday morning, or whenever their personal schedules permit. This specific couple is testing the waters — by going on a date, which is how testing the waters happens. It seems to have gone pretty well since he stayed till morning. Nobody’s been trying to claim that they’re “serious,” only that it was a date. The notion that somehow it’s impossible for people to date seriously if it’s not taking place on your personally preferred schedule is just silly, but the notion that Tyler and Hannah are going to be serious at this stage of their renewed acquaintance is almost as ridiculous.

  36. justsaying

    August 3, 2019 at 1:56 PM

    @janiel If Saturday nights doesn’t work, Friday nights are serious date nights too.

    Neither Tyler nor Hannah is an ER nurse or an Orthodox the last time I checked. Though if one of them are involved in Havdalah, one can invite the other to the ceremony, no?

  37. Statler Without Waldorf

    August 4, 2019 at 9:17 PM

    My first thought after hearing about Jed hooking up with Haley right before leaving to film…I remember reading somewhere once (maybe even on this site!) they all the contestants get have STD panels run to ensure safety of the Lead. Is that true?

    Depending upon when the blood panels are run, some or these f-boys (and any f-girls) could go on a real sexual joy-ride the night before leaving for the Bachelor Mansion and end up cultivating a pesty STD or worse to share with the Lead during the Fantasy Suites.

    Seems like that could be a major liability unless the contestant’s contracts explicitly outline some sort of “pork at your own risk” clause.

  38. dogmomma

    August 5, 2019 at 1:24 PM

    For everyone hoping that Tyler is the next Bachelor and that he doesn’t go back to Hannah, there was an article that came out saying that Tyler had a date with Gigi Haddid on Sunday, and then another article came out from US Weekly that said Chris Harrison commented that Tyler won’t be considered for the Bachelor since he’s playing the field and doesn’t seem interested in finding his one true love on a reality show.

  39. justsaying

    August 5, 2019 at 4:05 PM

    I knew Hannah and Tyler’s THURSDAY night date wasn’t serious! If it’s any consolation, a Sunday-night-date with Gigi wasn’t a serious date either for you Hannah-and-Tyler fans. Gigi, I have to say, is a fresh start for Tyler and she is a huge star and model and I’m positive she has a posh pad in NYC.

    Hannah did make Tyler eat anchovies on a friggin horse date and then, proceeded to have on another horse date, only to dump him at the end of the show. Tyler does have some pride.

  40. janiel

    August 5, 2019 at 9:56 PM

    I don’t think he’s going to end up serious with anybody in LA if he’s determined to make a life for himself in New York. The distance is too much trouble. But whatever day of the week he saw whom has nothing to do with it.

    I’m mildly surprised that he decided he wasn’t interested in the Bachelor position, but if he’d rather date around right now, he’s at least handling it right. He’s being open with everyone about who else he’s seeing, and he isn’t trying for a position on a show that expects him to settle down very publicly (even if not for very long) with one person, less than three months from the start of filming.

    It’ll probably either be Peter or a dark horse from an earlier season, at this point. I want it to be Mike but I don’t think they really want him unless he blows everybody away on BIP this summer.

  41. ctrealitygirl

    August 6, 2019 at 8:25 AM

    I read that article yesterday, too, dogmomma. And its’ total BS! If Tyler was their 1st choice they’d have offered it to him immediately, as the fans have been screaming for him to be Bachelor. Like last year with Colton, I suspect they have someone else in mind, and after watching last night’s BIP episode, I’m thinking they could be setting up Clay to be the Bachelor. It would shut people up about them having more racial diversity. Just look at his situation…recent break-up with former BIP/Bachelor alum, and from what Steve says, he gets broken up with at the end of this season. Last night a lot of the women were ogling him and his muscles. Just felt to me like a Bachelor audition. So what if Tyler has a few dates with Gigi Hadid?? Or that he spent the night with Hannah (one of them specified that they did not have sex that night, just a similar date to their fantasy suite date where they talked all night. And that would make sense as they have A LOT to discuss right now! For some reason it seems they just don’t want him to be the Bachelor. But Tyler has also stated that he’s not sure he wants it. So perhaps they did approach him and weren’t crazy about his response? I really don’t want it to be Peter. I’d be ok with Mike or even Clay

  42. dogmomma

    August 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM

    I don’t think Hannah wanted to “get back together” with Tyler when he came over last week for the drink. It may have just been closure for both of them and they probably both wanted to talk about things so that they could end up with a friendship rather than having it be awkward. The latest article I read from US Weekly said she is happy exploring being single and so it Tyler. I listened to the Almost Famous podcast when Ben and Ashley I interviewed Tyler. Ben gave him a little “advice” at the end… he told him not to let the fame get the best of him and to stay true to who he is because he has a lot going for him, and a lot of the guys leave the show and turn into f*boys when girls start throwing themselves at the guy (maybe like Blake has done). Tyler seemed very mature in the interview, but he’s just starting to discover this new celebrity status, so time will tell if it sends him over the edge.

  43. jeepers

    August 12, 2019 at 11:30 PM

    Thank you so much for taking the words from my mouth! I am so tired of hearing people say “Tyler’s no ones second choice” She made an mistake. She realized her mistake, and I believe she would have realized it without the People story sooner or later, and she made the right decision once realized it. She didnt ask Tyler out for a drink as a manipulation, she asked him for a drink because she cares about him. The premise of this show is falling for multiple people, not just one, and making a choice at the end. She made a choice, it was wrong. She didnt ask Tyler to get down and propose again, she just asked him to drink a dang beer with her. What is it with this crazy insanity over the boy anyway? Yes he was kind and didnt pressure her to screw him, but there were other, just as awesome guys on this season. Better looking, sweeter, more earnest guys. I just dont get it. I love Hannah Beast. She was the best Bachelorette by miles and I am proud of her strength. Yes, she made mistakes. But you know what? Oh damn people, she’s a human being. A 24 yo human being. Give her a break. Yeesh

  44. jeepers

    August 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM

    Will you be my friend? Lol! You are a voice of reason. Is Saturday night being the only suitable “serious” date night something new? I have never heard that. Been on plenty of real dates that were in the middle of the week, even when I wasn’t a nurse.

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