-Victoria F. was up first with her date with Peter as they went on a private plane ride then to the Cedar Point amusement park where Victoria could tell everyone how scared she is of heights, which totally meant there was zero chance she WASN’T getting put on this date. Don’t these people know to lie on their application? Just say you’ve gone skydiving 150 times and nothing scares you. Then you’ll never get put on one of these dates. And oh yeah, plenty of you sent me the post from Victoria back in 2014 where she actually did go skydiving. And apparently a bunch of you sent that to her as well and since, well, Victoria is totally unequipped with how to handle social media criticism, she shot back about how it’s the only time she’s gone and she’d never do it again, “so back off!” Nice, Victoria. Can’t wait til the hometown date episode arrives and you lose your shit again on the audience over that. I’m amazed season in and season out how many of these contestants have absolutely no idea how to handle social media when the show is airing. Rule #1 – don’t get defensive. Rule #2 – never forget Rule #1.
-I don’t know what Victoria was thinking constantly referencing Chase Rice as her “ex-boyfriend” and saying they used to date. That wasn’t their relationship from everything I’ve heard. Here’s two clips of Chase talking about filming that episode:
“I don’t want to be a part of that, you know?” @ChaseRiceMusic called in and set the record straight about tonight’s episode of @BachelorABC ? Part 1 of 2 #StormeWarrenShow pic.twitter.com/gG0TG0TAiB
— SiriusXM The Highway (@SXMTheHighway) January 27, 2020
More of our chat with @ChaseRiceMusic, who says the songs on his new “The Album, Pt. 1” are NOT about Victoria Fuller from @BachelorABC ? Part 2 of 2 #StormeWarrenShow pic.twitter.com/2I3oGqUEsE
— SiriusXM The Highway (@SXMTheHighway) January 27, 2020
-So the songs he wrote for his new album had nothing to do with Victoria F., like so many people originally thought. They were about an ex he had for about 2 years. She was in his “Eyes on You” music video and from what I’ve seen, had numerous pictures with them together, so I’m assuming this is the one he’s talking about. So no, he’s not lying when he says those songs weren’t about Victoria Fuller. They were about Cameron Meyer:
-And in this article, he says he had essentially one night with Victoria F. and that was pretty much it. So I’ll let you make your own decision on who you want to believe when it comes to their relationship. Do you think she is his ex-girlfriend or do you think it was a mere hookup? Tough one, I know. But it’s your own decision to make.
-Now, Chase made it clear in each of those interviews, he did the show to give exposure to his music that just got released. All this is gonna do is help him. The bells and whistles behind this, and the producers putting him in that spot, he didn’t have control over. He says in that article his management was telling him there’s no way they’d do that to him. Well, his management is clueless if that’s what they were thinking. They’d should’ve known better. I don’t know the details of when things were booked or what. What I do know is that the first email I ever received about Victoria Fuller back in September specifically mentioned she “tells people she’s dating Chase Rice.” At the time, I didn’t think much of it. Nor did I know that Chase Rice would be one of the musical performers on the date.
-Then when those tweets came out asking fans to come to a date in Cleveland that Chase Rice was performing, EVEN I KNEW that Victoria F. was gonna be put on that date. So I’m sure at some point when the cast was released, someone told production about Victoria and her past with Chase. If I knew, they knew. And they planned it accordingly. They never hid the fact this date was done because of the circumstances surrounding it. As for who knew what and when? That I don’t know. But the date happened, it was awkward as hell, and production knew it would be which is why Victoria was put on the date. Yes, Chase knew Victoria was going on the show because she told him. She went to his show in Charlotte a week before she left for filming. So he knew she was going on the show, and he also knew (at some point), he was gonna be a musical guest on the show. If he couldn’t put 2 and 2 together that they absolutely, 100% were gonna make sure he performed on her date, then that’s on him. However, Victoria making it seem like their past was way more serious than it was? It wasn’t. That’s on her.
-Ultimately Chase and Victoria’s past, as meaningless as it was, really wasn’t much of a factor. She was embarrassed by the whole thing, but clearly Peter didn’t care because, well, why should he? It was before he even knew her so he really had no reason to be upset. I’m sure in that moment he was shocked because that’s literally never happened in the show’s history, but, once you get over that shock, I’m sure he realized it was out of his control, it’s just another twist the show threw at him, and as long as Victoria didn’t still have feelings for the guy (which she said she didn’t), you move on. Once I revealed Victoria and Chase’s past the day this date was happening and yet Peter still kept her, I knew it’d be an awkward date, but ultimately, her past with him had no bearing on the season. I get that everyone was freaking out last night, but 1) this is news that’s literally almost 4 months old and 2) it’s a one episode storyline. There is no Chase/Victoria talk the rest of the way, outside of Alayah breaking the news to the other women, which, we’ll get to momentarily. But first I wanna talk about Victoria P. and Alayah next on Page 3…
dbla31
January 28, 2020 at 9:24 AM
Victoria is definitely exaggerating her relationship with Chase. She was not ready to tell Peter (or America) that what she had was a hookup. She knows that even in 2020 this would make her look trashy. And maybe she convinced herself it was something more… some women do. But no way was she his g/f.
dogmomma
January 28, 2020 at 10:07 AM
Poor Peter is looking like a complete trainwreck. He’s always upset, can’t decide on anything without being influenced, temporarily falls for any girl with a sad story in their past, and the list goes on. It’s easy to see how he probably doesn’t propose to anyone at the end. He’s made comments in interviews about how he made mistakes….. that’s been obvious since the first episode. Seems to be a lot more manipulation by producers this season…. not sure if producers are getting better at it or if the contestants are just not as bright. And all the girls yelling at the end of the episode was a little too much drama.
dbla31
January 28, 2020 at 10:17 AM
My second comment is about the Kobe tragedy and helicopters. From the moment I heard details of this crash I was thinking: JFK Jr. Fog and disorientation seem to be huge factors in this. I don’t think it will effect this franchise (nor, personally do I think it should, they do way riskier things than fly in helicopters.) I don’t believe Bachelor/ette would fly in the conditions described during Kobe’s last flight. I mean the whole point is to get the scenery shots. Could something go wrong? Of course. But I can’t see them changing a staple of the show because of these small odds. This LA Times story spells it all out: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/the-last-flight-of-kobe-bryant/ar-BBZp0ul?ocid=spartandhp
rob22
January 28, 2020 at 10:36 AM
Peter is a terrible Bachelor. While he obviously has to go along with the Producers, which will put him in the middle of some drama, there’s a way to handle it. While sending Alayah home last week may have been unfair, he has to stick with his decisions. He could have chosen to keep her. The contestants might be a bit unhappy about it, but they do know that it could be something the show wants for more drama. But when you let people back on the show & give them the rose, that’s never going to go over well. His indecisiveness has him ping ponging into a bunch of areas he need not be. So this show is a struggle. Peter comes across as a hapless doofus. And the girls? Wow. Not good. Maybe someone will emerge, and I’m sure the story will try to put a positive spin on somebody, but nobody has emerged to this point that is even slightly someone to root for.
The show is addicted to drama, but they really do have to put on a plausible love story line. Otherwise, it might as well be an episode from “Blind Date”. If you never saw that show, basically people would go out on a blind date, and then 90% of the time, come back and trash the person they just went out with. I did love Blind Date, but that’s not this show’s brand.
crushonspivey
January 28, 2020 at 10:55 AM
rob22, you nailed it. This show is addicted to drama at the expense of its supposed premise—finding real love. There are no winners this season. It is a trainwreck. And as someone who has watched nearly all seasons since this began (Started in Day 1 of the first season but missed a couple by choice), last night ranks at the top of the most cringeworthy episodes in Franchise history.
First, Peter is just in over his head with this. He is a dolt. Confirmed again by him stating that Clark Kent was born in Cleveland. And yes, he actually said that last night. MEMO TO PETER: Clark Kent is actually Superman who was born on Krypton. And t hen letting Alayah back and giving her the rose on that group date? DUDE. Are you really that dense to not see you just pissed out half your women? Including ones you actually have an interest in? One of the dumbest moves in franchise history.
And as to teh girls–this is a group of beautiful women made far less beautiful by the week due to their collective issues. I mean, wow, this group is a hot mess of emotions. Even gils you think might be normal and have it together are just emotional disasters. So much dysfunction, so many esteem issues. Victoria F actually walked into a room, went to the corner, faced it and was crying. Seriously? Then she over exaggerated her relationship with the country singer (props to Chase Rise who was super funny last night. His looks at Victoria had me laughing. He knew what was up and played it up.)
Then seeing Victoria P get caught in a lie was so awkward. And she wouldn’t admit it and tried to hied between “I know my truth” or whatever. NEWSFLASH LADIES: IF you ever utter that phrase, everyone knows it is you trying to hide behind it in an attempt to excuse your poor behavior. It is that simple.
And Aalayah, you just got back in teh house. The girls talked smack because they said you were drama. So what do you do seconds after being back? Stir the pot. Sigh. Why are some people so dumb and not able to learn from the past?
Losers last night: Peter, Victoria P, Victoria F. Aalayah.
Winners: The girls who maybe figured out this franchise is a joke and called Peter out over his poor instincts and behavior. Sadly none just bailed, so really, they are all still losers.
There is no path forward for a love story arc here anymore. The editing ruined it. Too much drama. Peter needs to end up alone.
joanne
January 28, 2020 at 11:50 AM
I agree with the comments here. Peter is one of the worst bachelors ever. He can’t make a decision and stick to it and he’s very, very easily manipulated.
I have a positive impression of Madison and that’s about it. No interest in any others at this point, and the “drama” could not be more contrived or childish.
Plus every second word from many of them is “like” which makes me want to fast forward through conversations. Who talks that way in real life?
I hope this train wreck gets better but as of now I dont get the impression most of the women really like Peter all that much and are just there to promote their brand, otherwise more than one might voluntarily leave.
atleast4characters
January 28, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Did Steve really pass over this gem of dialogue. I finally understand football: “We can’t let’em run and make a touchdown. Because if they make a touchdown then they score and then we’re at a disadvantage. Everybody understand?”
justsaying
January 29, 2020 at 7:13 AM
Listen up, Peter. Grow a pair and STICK to your guns!! Own your decisions. Tell the girls this is your decision and this is YOUR journey and not theirs. If one of them become theee Bachelorette, then, she can make her own journey and decisions. For now, it’s PETER’s friggin show.
While you’re at it, get rid of both Victorias. Both drove me up the wall.
dogmomma
January 29, 2020 at 9:57 AM
I think everyone feels the same about Peter. And so many of the girls are extremely annoying and I’m sure that’s why they are going to stick around a while. This has to be one of the most frustrating seasons to watch. I’m already sick of the manufactured drama and if it doesn’t get better, I’ll probably skip the rest of the season and just watch closer to the end.
tnlc
January 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM
Bingo. She definitely wants Peter to think she’s so desirable. Imagining Chase and she were boyfriend/ girlfriend(lol) and that SHE ended things cause of his lifestyle. She has insecure written all over her face. All 3-4 of her friends marriages she helped end are again based on her insecurity. I know she’s not the best looking girl but she should value herself a little more than looking to men to give her confidence.
Statler Without Waldorf
January 30, 2020 at 8:37 PM
Oh my gosh! “Blind Date” with Rodger Lodge or whatever that hosts name was! ? The dates were almost always at that sleazy looking private hot tub place. Similar to that dating show where people would go on a cruise together and “date”. Train wrecks all, but infinitely more believable that the Bachelor Sludge that gets shoveled at us…
ctrealitygirl
January 31, 2020 at 7:03 AM
I’ve been watching Marries At First Sight since the spring season last year and am hooked! It’s funny that RS has been knocking the show since Jamie Otis (from Ben Flajnik’s season of the Bachelor) appeared on the 1st season, and proclaiming that the premise is ridiculous and that her marriage (or any of them) would last. Well, she and her husband from the show, have been married now for almost 6 years and expecting their 3rd child! And they bring back successful couples to give their reactions/comments to current “contestants” and there are several successfully married couples. They do meet their spouses till the bride walks down the aisle and they stand at the altar. BUT…they are chosen for each other by a panel of “matchmakers”/relationship specialists, who are spot on pairing people. AND, unlike the Bachelor franchise where producers do everything they can to sabotage budding romances, MFAS is constantly giving their couples support – namely, the “experts” who matched them are on call to help them thru various crises they have and they also have periodic therapy sessions along the way. On the Bachelor/ette, couples at best sepnd a few hours together before getting engaged – maybe a couple one-on-one dates and a handful of group dates where they get minimal time with their potential fiance. On MAFS, the couples are together all day every day for 8 weeks before they have to make a decision whether to stay together. I’m really liking the show better then the Bachelor shows, and especially this season with Peter forever digging himself in hole after hole and the women acting like spoiled brats. They really need to dial down the drama in future seasons and try to focus more on the relationships developing like the old days. Right now I don’t feel there’s anyone worth rooting for in Peter’s group of women…and don’t think he’s ready to make a commitment to anyone anyway.