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The “Bachelor” Peter – Episode 4 Recap, Chase/Victoria F., the Victoria P./Alayah Relationship in Pictures, & More

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-The group date was a flag football game that 13 women competed in. Well, 12 women competed and Victoria P. watched from the sidelines because her back hurt according to her. Which gave her free access to kiss and give a massage to Peter on the sidelines while others tackled each other in pads. For one episode at least, Victoria P. got to play the role of villain, because they don’t let you sit out and do what you do unless they want to get a reaction from the others. And they did. Was her “villain” edit egregious? No. We talk about it all the time. There are different levels of villainy on this show and some are much worse than others. Alayah’s last week? Practically nothing. She never bad mouthed any women. She didn’t talk behind peoples backs. She didn’t run to an ITM and say something about someone that she didn’t say to their face. Same goes here for Victoria P. So while she was portrayed as someone getting “extra” time with Peter that upset the women during the game, then being the first to steal him during the cocktail party, I’m sorry, but people have to stop getting upset at stuff like this. One thing is becoming abundantly clear when it comes to Victoria P. as these last couple episodes have played out. She’s guilty of putting way too much trust into her producer telling her what to do.

-And lets face it, Shiann is unfortunately on this show for one reason and one reason only. To be the woman whose time gets interrupted the most. Happened on opening night, then again the next episode. She’s continually complaining about how she’s barely getting any time with Peter, when the reality of it is, you are told WHEN you can go speak to Peter. If Shiann is continually getting held back and missing time with him because a producer tells her it’s not her turn, then when it finally is, she’s getting interrupted, that’s not a coincidence. She’s a pawn in their game. It’s now happened to her 3 times in 4 episodes, as once Shiann got time with Peter at the cocktail party to tell him how frustrated she is, here walks in Alayah to surprise everyone with her return to the show, prompting Shiann to walk away crying, again foiled that her time was cut short. I hope viewers are beginning to understand how this show works in its 39th season, because the contestants certainly don’t. And the thing that sucks? Shiann can’t possibly bitch about it for fear of getting the wrath of producers for talking about stuff online or in interviews that wasn’t shown on TV. Could she put her foot down and be honest about how her time with Peter was handled and say, “F this. This is wrong.” Sure. But she won’t I assume, because she’s deathly afraid of the contract and doesn’t want to ruin any possible chance of appearing on Paradise. That’s how it works now unfortunately.

-In taking that a step further, why do you think ABC is starting to control what podcasts contestants do? Why do you think so many of them are afraid to speak about things that went on behind the scenes? Well, for one, it states in their contract they’re not allowed to. Have some disobeyed that? Absolutely. But those are the people that don’t give a shit about the show anymore and don’t wanna do business with them. Someone like Luke P. And if we’re being honest, as much as Luke P. has laid into the show during post-show interviews he’s done including my podcast, producers would put him on BIP in a second if he would do it. So ultimately, it matters more about how polarizing of a character are you. If you are, then you “breaking your contract” becomes less and less of an issue. Luke P. told us he’d never do another show with them. I hope he sticks to that.

-So lets get to the Victoria P/Alayah stuff that dominated this group date after party. If we go back to last week, Victoria’s comment to Peter at the pool party was, “I’ve spent maybe 3 hrs with her even at Miss USA.” Immediately I knew something was off with that because I had heard back when both were announced as contestants that 1) they were friends and 2) the two of them, and a group of other Miss USA girls, took a Vegas trip together in Jan 2019. So here’s all stuff I was able to find regarding Victoria P. and Alayah that is all public knowledge. Took maybe 5 minutes to find all this on social media:

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  1. dbla31

    January 28, 2020 at 9:24 AM

    Victoria is definitely exaggerating her relationship with Chase. She was not ready to tell Peter (or America) that what she had was a hookup. She knows that even in 2020 this would make her look trashy. And maybe she convinced herself it was something more… some women do. But no way was she his g/f.

  2. dogmomma

    January 28, 2020 at 10:07 AM

    Poor Peter is looking like a complete trainwreck. He’s always upset, can’t decide on anything without being influenced, temporarily falls for any girl with a sad story in their past, and the list goes on. It’s easy to see how he probably doesn’t propose to anyone at the end. He’s made comments in interviews about how he made mistakes….. that’s been obvious since the first episode. Seems to be a lot more manipulation by producers this season…. not sure if producers are getting better at it or if the contestants are just not as bright. And all the girls yelling at the end of the episode was a little too much drama.

  3. dbla31

    January 28, 2020 at 10:17 AM

    My second comment is about the Kobe tragedy and helicopters. From the moment I heard details of this crash I was thinking: JFK Jr. Fog and disorientation seem to be huge factors in this. I don’t think it will effect this franchise (nor, personally do I think it should, they do way riskier things than fly in helicopters.) I don’t believe Bachelor/ette would fly in the conditions described during Kobe’s last flight. I mean the whole point is to get the scenery shots. Could something go wrong? Of course. But I can’t see them changing a staple of the show because of these small odds. This LA Times story spells it all out:

  4. rob22

    January 28, 2020 at 10:36 AM

    Peter is a terrible Bachelor. While he obviously has to go along with the Producers, which will put him in the middle of some drama, there’s a way to handle it. While sending Alayah home last week may have been unfair, he has to stick with his decisions. He could have chosen to keep her. The contestants might be a bit unhappy about it, but they do know that it could be something the show wants for more drama. But when you let people back on the show & give them the rose, that’s never going to go over well. His indecisiveness has him ping ponging into a bunch of areas he need not be. So this show is a struggle. Peter comes across as a hapless doofus. And the girls? Wow. Not good. Maybe someone will emerge, and I’m sure the story will try to put a positive spin on somebody, but nobody has emerged to this point that is even slightly someone to root for.

    The show is addicted to drama, but they really do have to put on a plausible love story line. Otherwise, it might as well be an episode from “Blind Date”. If you never saw that show, basically people would go out on a blind date, and then 90% of the time, come back and trash the person they just went out with. I did love Blind Date, but that’s not this show’s brand.

  5. crushonspivey

    January 28, 2020 at 10:55 AM

    rob22, you nailed it. This show is addicted to drama at the expense of its supposed premise—finding real love. There are no winners this season. It is a trainwreck. And as someone who has watched nearly all seasons since this began (Started in Day 1 of the first season but missed a couple by choice), last night ranks at the top of the most cringeworthy episodes in Franchise history.

    First, Peter is just in over his head with this. He is a dolt. Confirmed again by him stating that Clark Kent was born in Cleveland. And yes, he actually said that last night. MEMO TO PETER: Clark Kent is actually Superman who was born on Krypton. And t hen letting Alayah back and giving her the rose on that group date? DUDE. Are you really that dense to not see you just pissed out half your women? Including ones you actually have an interest in? One of the dumbest moves in franchise history.

    And as to teh girls–this is a group of beautiful women made far less beautiful by the week due to their collective issues. I mean, wow, this group is a hot mess of emotions. Even gils you think might be normal and have it together are just emotional disasters. So much dysfunction, so many esteem issues. Victoria F actually walked into a room, went to the corner, faced it and was crying. Seriously? Then she over exaggerated her relationship with the country singer (props to Chase Rise who was super funny last night. His looks at Victoria had me laughing. He knew what was up and played it up.)

    Then seeing Victoria P get caught in a lie was so awkward. And she wouldn’t admit it and tried to hied between “I know my truth” or whatever. NEWSFLASH LADIES: IF you ever utter that phrase, everyone knows it is you trying to hide behind it in an attempt to excuse your poor behavior. It is that simple.

    And Aalayah, you just got back in teh house. The girls talked smack because they said you were drama. So what do you do seconds after being back? Stir the pot. Sigh. Why are some people so dumb and not able to learn from the past?

    Losers last night: Peter, Victoria P, Victoria F. Aalayah.

    Winners: The girls who maybe figured out this franchise is a joke and called Peter out over his poor instincts and behavior. Sadly none just bailed, so really, they are all still losers.

    There is no path forward for a love story arc here anymore. The editing ruined it. Too much drama. Peter needs to end up alone.

  6. joanne

    January 28, 2020 at 11:50 AM

    I agree with the comments here. Peter is one of the worst bachelors ever. He can’t make a decision and stick to it and he’s very, very easily manipulated.

    I have a positive impression of Madison and that’s about it. No interest in any others at this point, and the “drama” could not be more contrived or childish.

    Plus every second word from many of them is “like” which makes me want to fast forward through conversations. Who talks that way in real life?

    I hope this train wreck gets better but as of now I dont get the impression most of the women really like Peter all that much and are just there to promote their brand, otherwise more than one might voluntarily leave.

  7. atleast4characters

    January 28, 2020 at 7:27 PM

    Did Steve really pass over this gem of dialogue. I finally understand football: “We can’t let’em run and make a touchdown. Because if they make a touchdown then they score and then we’re at a disadvantage. Everybody understand?”

  8. justsaying

    January 29, 2020 at 7:13 AM

    Listen up, Peter. Grow a pair and STICK to your guns!! Own your decisions. Tell the girls this is your decision and this is YOUR journey and not theirs. If one of them become theee Bachelorette, then, she can make her own journey and decisions. For now, it’s PETER’s friggin show.

    While you’re at it, get rid of both Victorias. Both drove me up the wall.

  9. dogmomma

    January 29, 2020 at 9:57 AM

    I think everyone feels the same about Peter. And so many of the girls are extremely annoying and I’m sure that’s why they are going to stick around a while. This has to be one of the most frustrating seasons to watch. I’m already sick of the manufactured drama and if it doesn’t get better, I’ll probably skip the rest of the season and just watch closer to the end.

  10. tnlc

    January 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM

    Bingo. She definitely wants Peter to think she’s so desirable. Imagining Chase and she were boyfriend/ girlfriend(lol) and that SHE ended things cause of his lifestyle. She has insecure written all over her face. All 3-4 of her friends marriages she helped end are again based on her insecurity. I know she’s not the best looking girl but she should value herself a little more than looking to men to give her confidence.

  11. Statler Without Waldorf

    January 30, 2020 at 8:37 PM

    Oh my gosh! “Blind Date” with Rodger Lodge or whatever that hosts name was! ? The dates were almost always at that sleazy looking private hot tub place. Similar to that dating show where people would go on a cruise together and “date”. Train wrecks all, but infinitely more believable that the Bachelor Sludge that gets shoveled at us…

  12. ctrealitygirl

    January 31, 2020 at 7:03 AM

    I’ve been watching Marries At First Sight since the spring season last year and am hooked! It’s funny that RS has been knocking the show since Jamie Otis (from Ben Flajnik’s season of the Bachelor) appeared on the 1st season, and proclaiming that the premise is ridiculous and that her marriage (or any of them) would last. Well, she and her husband from the show, have been married now for almost 6 years and expecting their 3rd child! And they bring back successful couples to give their reactions/comments to current “contestants” and there are several successfully married couples. They do meet their spouses till the bride walks down the aisle and they stand at the altar. BUT…they are chosen for each other by a panel of “matchmakers”/relationship specialists, who are spot on pairing people. AND, unlike the Bachelor franchise where producers do everything they can to sabotage budding romances, MFAS is constantly giving their couples support – namely, the “experts” who matched them are on call to help them thru various crises they have and they also have periodic therapy sessions along the way. On the Bachelor/ette, couples at best sepnd a few hours together before getting engaged – maybe a couple one-on-one dates and a handful of group dates where they get minimal time with their potential fiance. On MAFS, the couples are together all day every day for 8 weeks before they have to make a decision whether to stay together. I’m really liking the show better then the Bachelor shows, and especially this season with Peter forever digging himself in hole after hole and the women acting like spoiled brats. They really need to dial down the drama in future seasons and try to focus more on the relationships developing like the old days. Right now I don’t feel there’s anyone worth rooting for in Peter’s group of women…and don’t think he’s ready to make a commitment to anyone anyway.

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