-Let me describe what you’re looking at with those pictures. These are pictures of Victoria P. & Alayah running in the same group during the Jan. 2019 Vegas trip that Alayah reference she and Victoria P. planned on last night’s episode. Does it mean they’re BFF’s? No. But nobody’s saying they were or had to be BFF’s. We’re only talking about Victoria’s specific point that “I’ve maybe spent 3 hrs with her even at Miss USA.” Now, maybe those pictures are the ONLY time all weekend that Victoria P. & Alayah spent together. You have a brain. I’ll let you decide. Do you think it was?
-Also, those comments Victoria left on 4 of Alayah’s pictures, going by the date, is one month before they left for filming. Hell, maybe Victoria P. hated Alayah to her core and just wrote that on her page to look supportive. But if that’s the case, then she’s guilty of the exact thing she’s accusing Alayah of – which is being fake. So Victoria’s story of barely knowing Alayah really doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on. These pictures and her comments left on Alayah’s photos one month before filming started are really hard to then conclude that Victoria P. had such an issue with Alayah heading into the show.
-To top it all off last night, once confronted by Peter and he specifically asked her about her “barely knew her 3 hrs comment,” yet then admitted “yes, we did go to Vegas together,” you could tell Victoria’s wheels started spinning. When you’re getting asked specific questions by Peter and Alayah and your response is repeatedly, “I don’t know what else to say,” and “my truth is the truth” but not explain what that “truth” was, then it’s pretty obvious she was caught and, well, didn’t know what to say. It was like she even started to mind f**k Peter into believing her even though she was giving him nothing to believe her about since she gave nothing to refute what Alayah was saying.
-That’s all this was between Victoria P. & Alayah last night. Alayah saying we were friends going into this and I’m shocked she lied about that, and Victoria P. saying “I don’t know what else to say” and “my truth is the truth” then getting mad at Peter for not believing her. So again, use your own judgment to determine who you’d like to believe. My issue with it is it’s such a weird thing for Victoria P. to get behind, and honestly, I think she got manipulated by her producer into trash talking Alayah, but when Alayah fought back, Victoria P. didn’t know what to do or say. Like, wouldn’t the easy resolution to all of this be Victoria P. just to hop on social media and explain exactly what she was talking about last night? Seems to be a rather simple solution. She can easily either own up to it, or, keep standing behind her story. But because producers have her so sacred to say anything, not to mention she’s probably thinking she has a chance to be “Bachelorette,” she doesn’t want to rock the boat so to speak. Of all the “feuds” we’ve seen on this show, this seems like an easy one to solve if Victoria P. would just address what the hell why she said she barely knew Alayah 3 hrs when there’s pretty solid evidence out there that wasn’t the case.
-I do think one thing Victoria said last night spoke volumes. Can’t remember if she said it at the group date after party to Peter and Alayah when they were both there, or at the end at the rose ceremony cocktail party to Peter, but it was something along the lines of mistaking her kindness for weakness. I absolutely think that’s what happened here. I think Victoria P. is almost too kind, which never bodes well for a show like this, and producers preyed on that. They got her involved in something she never thought she’d come out looking bad in. For whatever reason, that line of “barely known her 3 hrs” is one she’s gonna regret for a while. And I just don’t understand why she would say something like that. Only thing I can think of is a producer got in her ear, convinced her to go after Alayah because of a pageant past, and this ended up being the result unfortunately. She got taken advantage of. It’s still 100% on her for saying the things she did, but we know how much producers influence can have on these people. We see it every season. Victoria P. just happened to be a victim of producer manipulation this season. I’m convinced of it. And now the tide has turned on her as last night she started getting a lot of heat on social media.
dbla31
January 28, 2020 at 9:24 AM
Victoria is definitely exaggerating her relationship with Chase. She was not ready to tell Peter (or America) that what she had was a hookup. She knows that even in 2020 this would make her look trashy. And maybe she convinced herself it was something more… some women do. But no way was she his g/f.
dogmomma
January 28, 2020 at 10:07 AM
Poor Peter is looking like a complete trainwreck. He’s always upset, can’t decide on anything without being influenced, temporarily falls for any girl with a sad story in their past, and the list goes on. It’s easy to see how he probably doesn’t propose to anyone at the end. He’s made comments in interviews about how he made mistakes….. that’s been obvious since the first episode. Seems to be a lot more manipulation by producers this season…. not sure if producers are getting better at it or if the contestants are just not as bright. And all the girls yelling at the end of the episode was a little too much drama.
dbla31
January 28, 2020 at 10:17 AM
My second comment is about the Kobe tragedy and helicopters. From the moment I heard details of this crash I was thinking: JFK Jr. Fog and disorientation seem to be huge factors in this. I don’t think it will effect this franchise (nor, personally do I think it should, they do way riskier things than fly in helicopters.) I don’t believe Bachelor/ette would fly in the conditions described during Kobe’s last flight. I mean the whole point is to get the scenery shots. Could something go wrong? Of course. But I can’t see them changing a staple of the show because of these small odds. This LA Times story spells it all out: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/the-last-flight-of-kobe-bryant/ar-BBZp0ul?ocid=spartandhp
rob22
January 28, 2020 at 10:36 AM
Peter is a terrible Bachelor. While he obviously has to go along with the Producers, which will put him in the middle of some drama, there’s a way to handle it. While sending Alayah home last week may have been unfair, he has to stick with his decisions. He could have chosen to keep her. The contestants might be a bit unhappy about it, but they do know that it could be something the show wants for more drama. But when you let people back on the show & give them the rose, that’s never going to go over well. His indecisiveness has him ping ponging into a bunch of areas he need not be. So this show is a struggle. Peter comes across as a hapless doofus. And the girls? Wow. Not good. Maybe someone will emerge, and I’m sure the story will try to put a positive spin on somebody, but nobody has emerged to this point that is even slightly someone to root for.
The show is addicted to drama, but they really do have to put on a plausible love story line. Otherwise, it might as well be an episode from “Blind Date”. If you never saw that show, basically people would go out on a blind date, and then 90% of the time, come back and trash the person they just went out with. I did love Blind Date, but that’s not this show’s brand.
crushonspivey
January 28, 2020 at 10:55 AM
rob22, you nailed it. This show is addicted to drama at the expense of its supposed premise—finding real love. There are no winners this season. It is a trainwreck. And as someone who has watched nearly all seasons since this began (Started in Day 1 of the first season but missed a couple by choice), last night ranks at the top of the most cringeworthy episodes in Franchise history.
First, Peter is just in over his head with this. He is a dolt. Confirmed again by him stating that Clark Kent was born in Cleveland. And yes, he actually said that last night. MEMO TO PETER: Clark Kent is actually Superman who was born on Krypton. And t hen letting Alayah back and giving her the rose on that group date? DUDE. Are you really that dense to not see you just pissed out half your women? Including ones you actually have an interest in? One of the dumbest moves in franchise history.
And as to teh girls–this is a group of beautiful women made far less beautiful by the week due to their collective issues. I mean, wow, this group is a hot mess of emotions. Even gils you think might be normal and have it together are just emotional disasters. So much dysfunction, so many esteem issues. Victoria F actually walked into a room, went to the corner, faced it and was crying. Seriously? Then she over exaggerated her relationship with the country singer (props to Chase Rise who was super funny last night. His looks at Victoria had me laughing. He knew what was up and played it up.)
Then seeing Victoria P get caught in a lie was so awkward. And she wouldn’t admit it and tried to hied between “I know my truth” or whatever. NEWSFLASH LADIES: IF you ever utter that phrase, everyone knows it is you trying to hide behind it in an attempt to excuse your poor behavior. It is that simple.
And Aalayah, you just got back in teh house. The girls talked smack because they said you were drama. So what do you do seconds after being back? Stir the pot. Sigh. Why are some people so dumb and not able to learn from the past?
Losers last night: Peter, Victoria P, Victoria F. Aalayah.
Winners: The girls who maybe figured out this franchise is a joke and called Peter out over his poor instincts and behavior. Sadly none just bailed, so really, they are all still losers.
There is no path forward for a love story arc here anymore. The editing ruined it. Too much drama. Peter needs to end up alone.
joanne
January 28, 2020 at 11:50 AM
I agree with the comments here. Peter is one of the worst bachelors ever. He can’t make a decision and stick to it and he’s very, very easily manipulated.
I have a positive impression of Madison and that’s about it. No interest in any others at this point, and the “drama” could not be more contrived or childish.
Plus every second word from many of them is “like” which makes me want to fast forward through conversations. Who talks that way in real life?
I hope this train wreck gets better but as of now I dont get the impression most of the women really like Peter all that much and are just there to promote their brand, otherwise more than one might voluntarily leave.
atleast4characters
January 28, 2020 at 7:27 PM
Did Steve really pass over this gem of dialogue. I finally understand football: “We can’t let’em run and make a touchdown. Because if they make a touchdown then they score and then we’re at a disadvantage. Everybody understand?”
justsaying
January 29, 2020 at 7:13 AM
Listen up, Peter. Grow a pair and STICK to your guns!! Own your decisions. Tell the girls this is your decision and this is YOUR journey and not theirs. If one of them become theee Bachelorette, then, she can make her own journey and decisions. For now, it’s PETER’s friggin show.
While you’re at it, get rid of both Victorias. Both drove me up the wall.
dogmomma
January 29, 2020 at 9:57 AM
I think everyone feels the same about Peter. And so many of the girls are extremely annoying and I’m sure that’s why they are going to stick around a while. This has to be one of the most frustrating seasons to watch. I’m already sick of the manufactured drama and if it doesn’t get better, I’ll probably skip the rest of the season and just watch closer to the end.
tnlc
January 30, 2020 at 7:54 PM
Bingo. She definitely wants Peter to think she’s so desirable. Imagining Chase and she were boyfriend/ girlfriend(lol) and that SHE ended things cause of his lifestyle. She has insecure written all over her face. All 3-4 of her friends marriages she helped end are again based on her insecurity. I know she’s not the best looking girl but she should value herself a little more than looking to men to give her confidence.
Statler Without Waldorf
January 30, 2020 at 8:37 PM
Oh my gosh! “Blind Date” with Rodger Lodge or whatever that hosts name was! ? The dates were almost always at that sleazy looking private hot tub place. Similar to that dating show where people would go on a cruise together and “date”. Train wrecks all, but infinitely more believable that the Bachelor Sludge that gets shoveled at us…
ctrealitygirl
January 31, 2020 at 7:03 AM
I’ve been watching Marries At First Sight since the spring season last year and am hooked! It’s funny that RS has been knocking the show since Jamie Otis (from Ben Flajnik’s season of the Bachelor) appeared on the 1st season, and proclaiming that the premise is ridiculous and that her marriage (or any of them) would last. Well, she and her husband from the show, have been married now for almost 6 years and expecting their 3rd child! And they bring back successful couples to give their reactions/comments to current “contestants” and there are several successfully married couples. They do meet their spouses till the bride walks down the aisle and they stand at the altar. BUT…they are chosen for each other by a panel of “matchmakers”/relationship specialists, who are spot on pairing people. AND, unlike the Bachelor franchise where producers do everything they can to sabotage budding romances, MFAS is constantly giving their couples support – namely, the “experts” who matched them are on call to help them thru various crises they have and they also have periodic therapy sessions along the way. On the Bachelor/ette, couples at best sepnd a few hours together before getting engaged – maybe a couple one-on-one dates and a handful of group dates where they get minimal time with their potential fiance. On MAFS, the couples are together all day every day for 8 weeks before they have to make a decision whether to stay together. I’m really liking the show better then the Bachelor shows, and especially this season with Peter forever digging himself in hole after hole and the women acting like spoiled brats. They really need to dial down the drama in future seasons and try to focus more on the relationships developing like the old days. Right now I don’t feel there’s anyone worth rooting for in Peter’s group of women…and don’t think he’s ready to make a commitment to anyone anyway.