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“Reader Emails,” Ratings, Madison Filming in Alabama, WTA and Finale Schedule & Some More Questions Answered

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Another crazy day yesterday in “Bachelor Nation.” My column seemed to spark a lot of chatter. Some good, some bad, some crazy. And by crazy, I mean people that still believe Peter ends up with his producer. I may not know every detail about how this all shakes out in the end this season, and I may not have 100% confirmation on who Peter is with yet (although I think it’s Madison), but one thing I do know for certain and I’ve said this going back at least a month: this is between Hannah Ann and Madison. Nobody else. Not a producer, not Hannah B., not anyone not from the franchise, and not anyone from #3 to #30 on his season. I can’t stress that enough. So media outlets can keep peddling their “Is Peter with a Producer” click bait stories, they’ll only end up with egg on their face when 1) they realize that’s not the case and 2) how ridiculous it was of an option to even consider for everything I laid out yesterday on page 1. It just makes zero sense on any level and post-filming social media pictures does not make a spoiler, which was essentially what that whole theory was based on, and people bought it. Shame shame. If I threw out a theory every time I heard one this season, your head would’ve exploded by now. I probably would’ve had a new one every week since November. By the way, I think I’m getting closer to finalizing what happened this season. Stay tuned…

With that said, some clarity was given yesterday to a couple things. First, Robert Mills on his radio show had this to say regarding the Peter/Madison fantasy suite story:

Then ABC released their press released for next week’s episode, and here’s how they end it:

“…Who will be going home and who will look forward to the fantasy suites? But before Peter can leave after the rose ceremony, one woman with serious concerns stops him to tell him something that could change everything.”

Well, we know now (thanks to Mills) that to be Madison telling him before they ever leave to Australia that she’s a virgin. What else she tells him, we don’t know. Some seem to think it’s an ultimatum. We don’t know yet. I know there was a voice over in the season preview alluding to it, but lets hold off until Monday’s episode actually airs and we see what she says. But basically, Peter knows heading into fantasy suites week where Madison stands on sex, and probably how she feels if he were to have it with others, because she lays it out for him beforehand. I think there’s a difference between letting him know how you feel about everything versus saying “If you have sex with anyone, we’re done” or something to that effect. Peter knew where he stood and he still made a choice to have sex with someone else. And that’s what the rest of the season will end up focusing on and the consequences that come from it.

Also, not that this is a huge deal because they do it every season, but they are definitely showing the hometown dates next week completely out of order than they were filmed. Next week, they’re showing the hometowns in this order: Hannah Ann, then Kelsey, then Madison, then end with Victoria – which we knew she’d be last. The real order of filming that I reported at the time was:

Madison (Oct. 26th)
Victoria (Oct. 28th)
Hannah Ann (Oct. 30th)
Kelsey (Nov. 1st)

So just keep that in mind when you’re watching next week.

A couple things I can confirm today in regards to scheduling. First off, the “Women Tell All” tapes next Friday the 21st. I’m assuming it’s running on March 2nd, the week before the finale as normal. My other confirmation is that there will be another 2 night finale this season on March 9th & 10th. So to me, that means we probably won’t actually see Victoria F. getting eliminated until Part 1 of the finale on Monday the 9th, which means she wouldn’t be at the WTA taping since she will have not been eliminated on screen yet, you can’t put her with the rest of the group. We’ll know next week if she is for sure, but, just know if Victoria F. is not at the taping next weekend, it’s because she isn’t eliminated on screen until the Part 1 of the finale that airs on March 9th.

Also had some news yesterday as Madison was seen filming in Town Creek Park in Auburn, AL with a “Bachelor” production team.

What does it mean? Well, if I knew I would’ve put it in the tweet. However, I can tell you what it DOESN’T mean, and that’s anything “Bachelorette” related. The “Bachelorette” announcement isn’t for another month. They don’t film “Bachelorette” intro packages a month in advance. Has nothing to do with that. Plus, I don’t believe there’s any way Madison will be “Bachelorette” even if she isn’t with Peter. The other thing people freaked out about was them thinking Madison had a ring on her finger if you zoomed in. Again, we go over this every single season, yet people don’t seem to grasp this concept. Even IF Madison is the final one, that final person does not get to keep/wear their ring while the show is airing. Wouldn’t that kinda be a giveaway of how the season ends if one of the leads women is walking around with an engagement ring on while the show is still airing? Again, lets think people. Not to mention, one thing I’ve told you from the beginning is that there was no engagement on final rose ceremony day. And I certainly don’t think there’s been once since. So all the more reason to debunk the engagement ring nonsense.

This goes for EVERY season. Yet every season, I always have people asking me about some social media picture with either the rumored final one, or someone in the final 2, and inevitably I’ll get, “Hey Steve, did you see the picture of so-and-so on their IG story…if you look really quick, it seems like she’s wearing her engagement ring.” Without even seeing the picture or video, the answer is always “no she isn’t” because they don’t have it. If you get proposed to on final rose ceremony day, you get the ring that day for TV purposes, then the show holds onto it until ATFR. They’re not gonna take a chance on having someone wear it in public or possibly lose it, damage it, etc while the show is airing.

Ratings are in from Monday night and the show did solid numbers once again with 6.4 million viewers and a 1.8 rating. If you wanna compare that to Colton’s episode 7 last year (the episode before hometowns), he drew 6.48 million viewers and a 1.9 rating. Also, you’ll notice that I linked to a different site for ratings this week. basically stopped posting ratings last week, so I found another one, and actually this is way better. They actually give you a breakdown of the demo watching. This goes to show you how dominant the “Bachelor” is on Monday night. While “The Neighorbood” and AGT might’ve gotten more overall viewers, the key here is looking what share the “Bachelor” does in Women 18-49. An 11 share. When the next highest show of the night in that demo only draws a 6 share, you have no idea how dominant that is. Women 18-49 is an advertisers wet dream. Ask anyone in the industry. That’s who is the #1 target for them. And “Bachelor” continually season in and season dominates that demo for 2 hours every Monday night. And that’s why the show isn’t going anywhere, no matter how many people complain the cast is too young, no one’s ready to get married, these women are too catty, blah blah blah. 11 share. Just keep that in mind.

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  1. crushonspivey

    February 12, 2020 at 9:09 AM

    How people think Stinky Pete ends up with his producer makes me laugh. She has made him look so stupid this year. He should be upset with her, not wanting to marry her. He was her stooge all season long.

    I hope he ends up with neither. This is really how this season needs to go. If anything, maybe roll out Hannah B at the After and have them talk about dating now or something, and Pete with none of the other girls. There is no love story to be believed with any other girl. None at all.

  2. joanne

    February 12, 2020 at 12:57 PM

    I agree that Peter really doesn’t belong with anyone. He’s clearly not ready to make a commitment.

    Madison made it clear how she felt, yet Peter went ahead anyway with having sex with two other women. To make matters worse, she found out from the women and not Peter.

    I wouldnt want to get engaged to a man who had just been intimate with two other women days before either. If he really loved Madison he would not have done that so even if they end up together I’m sure it will not last long.

  3. ctrealitygirl

    February 12, 2020 at 1:05 PM

    I agree with both of you. It’s not that Peter is a bad guy, he’s just nowhere near ready to settle down. C,mon…28 years old and pilot for a major airlines? I’m sure he gets plenty of opportunities to screw around. And he appears to need his ego fed constantly. He expects the women to profess their undying love for him while he can’t even make up his mind who to let go. And the fact that he keeps Victoria F around is proof of what he’s looking for. And, it’s NOT a wife!

  4. joanne

    February 12, 2020 at 8:59 PM

    Yes exactly. I’ll actually be disappointed if Madison takes him back. He’s sure not ready to settle down and he betrayed her trust. Being intimate twice proves it.

  5. jlal

    February 13, 2020 at 6:35 AM

    I agree with all comments above about Peter not being ready to settle down. I have said that from the get go. He is just along for the fame and ride.

    I have mixed feelings about the Madison issue. She knows the show, just as Luke did and still choose to come on anyway. She can only dictate her sexual behavior, not Peter’s. If her religion, sexual purity, and Peter’s sexual activity is so important why did she do the show. Hannah’s season ended and his started with the windmill narrative. It is not like she didn’t know before coming on.

    As for the next bachelorette, out of the slim pickings, I pick Tia. She is pretty, smart, knows the game, and would be interesting to watch.

  6. ctrealitygirl

    February 13, 2020 at 8:40 AM

    Wow, jlal! I sent RS an email stating the exact points you made in your comment! Steve posted it in his Reader Emails. His response was to defend Madison’s stance as she “warned” Peter at the Rose Ceremony after Hometowns that she would have a problem if he had sex with anyone in the Fantasy Suites, and he went ahead and did just that regardless of Madison’s warning. But, I’m with you. Peter’s claim to fame after Hannah’s season was having sex in the windmill 4 times, so Madison knew going into this what she was up against. So, like you stated, why go on a show when you know having premarital sex in the Fantasy Suites is common behavior? And especially knowing that the Bachelor you signed up for, did it himself the season before. If Peter doesn’t end up with her, she is definitely NOT Bachelorette material!

  7. dogmomma

    February 13, 2020 at 10:44 AM

    So many things don’t make sense about this season. The above comment is one of them. Why would Madison go on the Bachelor if she is looking for a man of faith, knowing that Peter isn’t one of them. Why not just meet other Christian men on a dating site?? And how in the world did Peter keep giving Victoria another chance after hearing about her past, and her annoying behavior of not knowing how to control her emotions. And why did he keep Hannah Ann when she was an emotional mess and couldn’t tell him how she felt. Nothing about this season makes sense. Ugh!

  8. ctrealitygirl

    February 13, 2020 at 11:09 AM

    The answer about why Peter kept Victoria F around, even after hearing about her trashy behavior with married men, is simply that he had his heart (penis) set on getting naked with her in the Fantasy Suite and he just couldn’t give that up. And, it must be a male flaw to fall for her antics, given how many married men she supposedly lured into her trap. I could barely watch her on the 3-on-1 date. She acted like a spoiled child. Correction: “She always acts like a spoiled child.” I guess a lot of men fall for that wounded little girl act. But why on earth would Peter want to keep a woman who rarely smiled on any of their dates is beyond me. Hannah Ann is another hot mess. Couldn’t Peter come to the conclusion that she was just too young to make any kind of commitment? But I suspect he also wanted to get her into the Fantasy Suite. And the way things are going, he’s basically proving to the viewers that he’s not looking for a wife to settle down with judging by his poor choices. Kelsey? Victoria F? Hannah Ann? Even Madison seems a tad immature. Ugh is right!

  9. justsaying

    February 13, 2020 at 12:36 PM

    Madison said she wants a religious, spiritual man to lead her family. She didn’t say she wanted a virgin.

    I suppose her rule is, if she’s serious with a guy and the guy is supposed falling for her, she can’t look pass him sleeping with someone else. I’m just guessing here. It’s her beliefs, her body, her life and her choice after all.

  10. jlal

    February 14, 2020 at 4:18 AM

    For those wondering why Peter kept Victoria around, he may not have, production probably did. We have read on this site how the lead knows who they like from very early on and it is pretty much production that decides who stays and goes. Production may have just had him keep Victoria around for the drama factor.

  11. tinyred500

    February 14, 2020 at 9:32 AM

    If Peter knew he was going to pick Madison (we assume he does), and she tells him about her purity etc., after hometown dates, then yes, the onus was on Peter. He could have sent Madison home there and then. Instead Peter has sex with one or both of the other two females, knowing full well how Madison felt, that’s hugely disrespectful and arrogant of him. If Madison goes back to him, then I’m confused and have mixed feelings as well.

    If however Madison gives him an ultimatum, then that’s a different matter entirely, and agree she’s can’t dictate what Peter does on the overnight dates. She can only tell him about her and how she feels. We will have to see how it plays out. 🙂

    There’s nothing wrong with anyone going on this programme if they are virgins or celibate. If they are upfront and honest and tell the lead before the overnight dates, then it shouldn’t be an issue. Because the blind isn’t leading the blind as both are aware, and hopefully the right choices and decisions are made. It appears Peter doesn’t care, is immature and doing it all for fame.

  12. tinyred500

    February 14, 2020 at 10:33 AM

    I meant to add…

    Even if someone has had sex previously, doesn’t mean you’d be okay with the lead sleeping with one or both of the other females. Even if you’re ‘sort of okay’ with it at the time, doesn’t mean you’re okay later on. Reflection is just that, you feel differently with time. I’m sure this is one of the problems which sadly leads to the breakdowns and break ups of the relationship later on. 🙁

  13. gsiegel

    February 18, 2020 at 11:17 PM

    Just wondering which girl Peter’s mom was begging him not to allow to leave. His mom tearfully begged him to bring her home to them. He seemed frustrated and torn as he hated to see his mom crying but also seemed to have already made the decision to let the girl leave the show.

  14. gsiegel

    February 18, 2020 at 11:31 PM

    Until there’s a ring on the finger, they should not expect or assume fidelity!

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