This week is going to be a first in my podcast history. Tomorrow is podcast #170. In 169 previous guests, I’ve never had a sports related guest on. Oh don’t worry, there will still be “Bachelor” talk this week with the lovely Jacqueline Trumbull, one of my favorites to talk to. Jacqueline and I, while I consider us to be friends even though we’ve never met, also have a differing opinion, I believe, on what I do as a job. Putting aside all the Jenna stuff from two years ago, and even though Jacqueline and I absolutely get along outside of this forum and have had some interesting text conversations over the years, I’m fully convinced she’s not a huge fan of what I do. And that’s ok. We will discuss it even more in depth tomorrow. Where was I? Oh yeah. Sports. My background is sports talk radio, it’s all I ever wanted to do when I was in college was have my own sports talk show some day. I’m a sports junkie, I love watching the games, March Madness is my favorite sporting event every year, I’ve been known to maybe place a little wager on sports here and there, but for 169 previous podcasts, I’ve kept my love for sports out of them. Until tomorrow.
Well, it’s a small world because I reached out to someone a couple years ago in the sports world just to offer some praise. They responded back, and then months passed and I had no idea they were friends with Jacqueline until one night she was hanging out with him and texted me a picture of them together. He’s not a current player, was never a superstar by any means, but he works for one of the four major sports teams. A fairly prominent one I would say. So tomorrow, Jacqueline will start off on the podcast, we’ll be joined in by this guy, have them both on for a little bit, then I’ll finish by doing an interview with him. Very excited to talk to him especially with everything going on right now. Hey, some of you may tune out once he comes on, and that’s fine. But I’m so excited to finally talk to this guy and get his opinion on things happening right now after only DM’ing with him the last couple years. So please, for the first time in 170 podcasts, let me get my sports fix in. This doesn’t mean I’ll be doing more and more sports related guests. This just all happened to fall into place because of the connection through Jacqueline. Even though he also is a fan of the “Bachelor” and we will talk about it briefly as well.
Couple things came out yesterday that added some clarity to the overnight date episode when ABC put out the press release for next week. It was officially confirmed that all 3 women stayed in the same suite in Australia. This question was asked a lot this week so I’m just gonna cover it here. That’s never happened in the history of the show before, this is clearly producer driven because they basically knew exactly what was gonna happen. I’m sure Robert Mills or maybe even Chris Harrison will do a podcast at some point and explain their “reasoning” why all the sudden they changed up the format this season for the first time in 39 seasons to make the final 3 all stay together in the same suite during overnight dates, and I don’t know what their answer will be, I just know it’ll be bullshit. They’ve each gotten their own room EVERY season. Just admit you did it because Madison is a virgin, you knew it was highly likely Peter would have sex with the other ones, and you wanted Madison to find out. There’s no other explanation for why they did this. None. But I’m sure they’ll give some bogus one. Hell, once you get to final four, the only other time you even SEE the other contestants is at the rose ceremonies and you’re basically not even allowed to speak to them. Now all the sudden they’re staying together, one will leave to go on her overnight, return the next morning aaaaannnnndddd…do what? Please. It’s actually pretty sick what they’re doing, but not the least bit surprising they would.
Also, a few of you asked if I know what order the overnight dates were filmed. No, I don’t, but I do know that Madison’s was filmed last for obvious reasons. On the episode, it’s Hannah Ann, then Victoria, then Madison. So I guess it really doesn’t matter if it was actually filmed Victoria then Hannah Ann. The important thing is that Madison was last and she was put there for a reason. The producers set out for a desired outcome and it’s exactly what they got. Don’t let them convince you otherwise.
Although I broke the news to you a few weeks ago, ABC made it “official” by announcing “Summer Games” will air this summer. Looks like it’s gonna air between “Bachelorette” and BIP, so it’ll be on it’s own for a couple weeks. Remember, “Winter Games” aired for two weeks during Arie’s season. Arie would air on Monday, then WG aired Tues & Thurs for 2 weeks. We had 6 hours of “Bachelor” programming for those two weeks and it was overkill. Glad they’re gonna give “Summer Games” it’s own two week run, I’m assuming twice a week as well as it’ll run concurrent with the real Summer Games happening in Tokyo.
For those that didn’t see it, Sharleen Joynt did another excellent job at breaking down Victoria and her behavior in Monday’s episode in her weekly recap for Flare. Couldn’t have said it better myself as Sharleen always seems to hit every nuance of things and explains why her behavior was so appalling. Go check it out and tell me really anything she says that would be way off the mark or even remotely wrong. I think it might be hard to find anything.
“Reader Emails” begins on Page 2…
crushonspivey
February 19, 2020 at 10:51 AM
Seeing how this is all going down, I think it is safe to say that Pete wanted to end up with none of these girls, so he was game for putting them all through the ringer. That is, until Pete’s mom got in his ear about Madison to go get her, then he thought better of it. I hope Madison had the self respect to tell him to shove it. Because Pete just doesn’t seem to be acting like a guy who loves Madison at all. Just like a guy who wants to get some. They just aren’t a good match at all.
dogmomma
February 19, 2020 at 12:39 PM
I wanted Madison to be the girl he picked because she wasn’t in all the drama, and seems like a cool girl. But after all the crap that has happened with Victoria… Peter not letting her go sooner and then sleeping with the other girls on overnights… I hope Madison doesn’t go back to him because she deserves better than that.
ctrealitygirl
February 19, 2020 at 1:06 PM
I’m with you dogmomma! I just read an interesting article online about Tyler Cameron tweeting about Madison – apparently smitten with her basketball skills…so now fans are screaming for Madi to ditch Peter and go after Tyler. I vote for that!
dogmomma
February 19, 2020 at 1:41 PM
That’s hilarious! And it would definitely give people something to talk about and the two of them would gets lots of attention (which isn’t always good). I just don’t think Peter made good choices and he needs to learn from them the hard way.
joanne
February 19, 2020 at 1:46 PM
I definitely agree Madison should not ever be with Peter as she’s way too good for him.
And I think it’s disgusting producers put her in a suite with the other two, just so Madison will find out Peter had sex with both of them. This is all going to play out in front of millions of people. Sure, Madison chose to go on this show, but it’s a great example of how producers don’t view the contestants as real people with feelings, but just a way to make money and get higher ratings.
chocolatetherapy
February 19, 2020 at 3:47 PM
Can Anyone tell me why Victoria P has not gotten a lot of talk as a Bachelorette candidate? She seems nice, grounded, and genuine? I know there was some drama with Alayah but can you imagine any of the other girls as Bachelorette? Ugh
aussiefan24
February 19, 2020 at 6:54 PM
Most of the girls on this season are duds, except for Hannah Ann and Madi… Wouldn’t mind seeing Madi as Bachelorette although she is probably still a bit too young/ready, and doubtful the producers would cast too many religious guys like what she’s looking for anyway. It doesn’t seem like the right environment for her.
I would love to see Clare Crawley (Juan Pablo’s runner up) as Bachelorette. She has the sad back story with her dad passing away, crowd favourite at the time for pushing Juan Pablo away after he rejected her at Finale and giving him a spray for being a pig, and she’s of a mature age and probably would take it quite seriously. I know it’s been a while but they brought Arie back after a big gap of years after Emily’s season. Can’t think of anyone else suitable right now.
I think Hannah B will do it again, but not for another year or two. I saw Steve’s spoiler she’s doing more DWTS Roadshows, and I’m sad shes out of the running now. But at least she will avoid over-exposure in Bachelor Nation.
Thanks for the great updates Steve, loving every minute of this.
ctrealitygirl
February 20, 2020 at 6:48 AM
I agree that the producers this year are really stooping to new lows. Do we fans like some occasional drama? Sure. But the way it’s being so obviously manufactured is such a turn-off and very insulting to our intelligence. And we don’t want so much drama that it takes away from showing any romances/relationships developing. If they continue down this road they’ll start losing viewers. Setting up Madison by placing the 3 final women in one hotel suite for the sole reason of having her find out that one or both of the other women had sex with Peter, is beyond cruel. And I’d love it if she took them to task for that …left the show and refused to have anything more to do with the franchise. But the fact that Steve discovered they are filming something with her in her hometown suggests she’s very much still in it. Either they’re filming her making up with Peter or shooting an intro for her as Bachelorette…she’s def in the mix. I’ve posted before about my new obsession with Married at First Sight. RS thinks the premise is hogwash. But several of the couples are having successfully marriages, and rather than sabotage relationships ala the Bachelor producers…MAFS has on staff counselors (one a clergyman) who meet with the “contestants” when they’re struggling with something their partner did, and they encourage them to do things to mend the relationship. It’s actually a breath of fresh air compared to witnessing mean/cruel behavior. Watching the Bachelor/ette has always been my guilty pleasure…but not so pleasurable any more 🙁
dogmomma
February 20, 2020 at 7:25 AM
It seems that most people are feeling the same about the level of manipulation this season. I agree how mean and cruel it was to put all 3 girls in the same room during overnights, especially since it’s never happened before and we all know why they did it. I started watching this show from the first season and I remember how much fun it was to try and figure out who “wins”. Then when Reality Steve came along, I enjoyed knowing the final person and watching that person’s love story unfold. The show is changing so much and it’s becoming too fake and produced, and now that everyone wants to be a social media influencer, there are fewer and fewer people who go on it that are actually trying to “find Love”. A little drama is okay, but the whole season has been nothing but drama and it got old quickly. I guess I will have to check out some of those other shows to see if I can find a substitute because this one is going downhill fast. I almost hope that they pick Madi to be the bachelorette and clean up her season and go back to finding romance, but I also think she can do so much better than what she finds on this show. I hope she hasn’t taken Peter back if he goes after her.
debb0
February 20, 2020 at 8:53 AM
So many are questioning why Madison, with her values and religious life signed up to do the show with “Windmill 4x Pete”. I’ve thought that maybe she signed up thinking Tyler C was the bachelor and being that he was so respectful of Hannah B’s wishes of not having sex in the fantasy suite……just a thought.
ctrealitygirl
February 20, 2020 at 9:07 AM
good observation debb0! Have you read the recent press citing Tyler C’s social media posts about Madison? I think it would be awesome if the two of them hooked up! MUCH better match than her and “Windmill 4x Pete”!!
debb0
February 20, 2020 at 10:29 AM
No I didn’t, ctrealitygirl. Hmmm, interesting. Wonder if candidates are allowed to “back out” once they learn who the lead is. I mean, can’t think the show would force someone to stay if they were dead set against it.
debb0
February 20, 2020 at 10:30 AM
That may be a question for Steve ?
dogmomma
February 20, 2020 at 11:26 AM
I went back to Tyler’s twitter feed and saw the comments he made. Then I read the comments that people made and EVERYONE wanted Tyler to contact/date/marry Madi!!! I love it! my fear is that Peter’s mom got hold of him after the final rose fiasco and pressured him into going after Madi. I don’t want to see her with him. I’m now on the Tyler/Madi team!!!
ctrealitygirl
February 20, 2020 at 11:27 AM
WEll, if you recall, the year they started with two Bachelorettes – Kaitlyn & Britt – and they had the men vote for who they wanted to assume the role, one guy eliminated himself after they named Kaitlyn as he said he was only there for Britt. And other people have opted out in mid-season saying that weren’t feeling a connection with the lead. So, she could have gotten out soem way or other
dbla31
February 20, 2020 at 12:36 PM
Anyone who thinks Tyler would “date” Madi has been reading too many harlequin romances! The guy has been catting around the world with models and actresses. He just bought an apartment in NYC. He’s not about to settle down with some virgin from the Bachelor franchise. If he didn’t go back to Hannah B then he’s not going there with Madi.
crushonspivey
February 20, 2020 at 1:15 PM
Amen dbla31. Tyler has entered peak franchise delta bravo status, and is all about promoting himself and hooking up. He’s Petey 2.0 right now. Not a good match for Madi at all, and not ready for one.
dogmomma
February 20, 2020 at 5:56 PM
I probably need to read more Harlequin Romances because I’m not getting the romance on this crazy show. If I wanted drama, I’d watch the Kardashians.
jlal
February 21, 2020 at 3:41 AM
I am so happy other feel as I do about the producer manipulation this season going to a new low. They have always had the person afraid of heights have to zip line or something, but this show they sunk to new lows. Setting up Chase, Victoria, and Peter the way the did, having Victoria’s ex show up right before hometowns, and putting all the final three in the same room is beyond manipulation it is down right mean. It is such a big turn off.
This show has moved so far from the original premise that it is not really the same show. I realize social media is a huge factor, but the show had little control over that. However, the obvious and malicious producer set-ups have gone too far. Makes me sad, as I have watched since the very first show.
dogmomma
February 21, 2020 at 6:19 AM
jlal I agree 1000%.
feck
February 21, 2020 at 12:15 PM
crushonspivey – Not the type to usually comment on these sites, but since my wife makes me watch this show. I will just say this, being a guy and knowing guys like peter. Its obvious from the very first episode of this season, by the way he talks to the girls with the same BS and how quick he is too make moves, its very obvious that Peter is just a Male Ho. I doubt he would be faithful to any of them. He tells every girl what they want to hear and when the tell him what he doesnt want to hear or the truth he ships them out. Its just another failed season.
rob22
February 22, 2020 at 7:45 AM
Yeah, I don’t see any real romance coming on this season. Victoria P is gonzo after this week, and I don’t even know what you call the relationship between Pilot Pete & her. Very dysfunctional. How does that happen in such a short time? The other two girls are too young to know anything. There is obviously no way that Windmill Man and Madison the virgin can really be a thing. They can fake it obviously, but why? That leaves Hannah Ann, who’s young and pretty, and just kinda there. At 23, she doesn’t have a clue about life. So, she’s really going to sign up with Pilot Pete. Well, I guess. There are cash and prizes involved. Not that there was ever really love involved in this show. You capture people in a bubble for 6-8 weeks and focus it on one guy, and I guess that’s what you get. But usually the show is able to pull together a love story for the end. I guess we know why Peter hasn’t picked anyone… at least not yet. It’s kind of a disaster.
tinyred500
February 24, 2020 at 4:12 AM
If Hannah Ann and Madison are the final two….does Madison decide not turn up at the end (so Peter can’t propose)…and that’s what different with this ending?
Agree with so many of the above comments. The producers have reached a new all time low with the moral standing of this programme, with the overnight dates all being in the same suite is just gross. Notwithstanding, Peter went along with it and that says a lot about him IMHO. No respect for himself or the girls involved.