The season goes on and now we’re only 3 weeks from finale night. The WTA tapes Friday as you know. Overnight dates airs next Monday, WTA airs on 3/2, then the two night finale is 3/9 & 3/10. For those asking about Victoria F. and will she be at WTA on Friday. Right now, my guess is no, because I think her getting eliminated at the overnight date rose ceremony isn’t going to be shown until the beginning of the episode in Part 1 of the finale on 3/9. Just like they did with Peter last season, remember? He got eliminated at #3 in Greece, but he wasn’t at the MTA because he appeared at Part 1 of the two-night finale. Jed and Tyler were on Part 2 the next night. So actually, I’d be shocked if Victoria is at the WTA taping on Friday, but I’ll know for sure that day and I’ll tweet it out. The only way she’s there is if the overnight date rose ceremony is actually shown next week. We don’t know if it is yet, I’m just guessing it won’t be since we have a two-night finale the following week, and this is following the same exact pattern as Hannah Brown’s season. Stay tuned. By the end of the week I’ll have your definitive answer.
Before we get into a lot of the goodies today surrounding Victoria F. since basically I’ve been pretty quiet on her since the day I posted her story, a few things to get to today. First off, US Weekly reported yesterday that over the weekend Chris Bukowski and Katrina Badowski went on a date. This is great and all, but I hope all of you have a good memory. Back on September 17th, Paradise had just finished airing, and Chris and Katie were STILL a thing, I basically willed Chris and Katrina into existence 5 months before it happened. We all remember this, don’t we?
Soooo yeah, if this is true, I take full credit for these two. You’re welcome you guys. I’ll be waiting for my wedding invite in the mail. Now, US Weekly is known to exaggerate things, and I do remember seeing pics of Chris, Katrina, and someone else from this past weekend posting during NBA All-Star Festivities. So maybe it was a group thing that US Weekly turned into something romantic. Wouldn’t be the first time they did, and certainly wouldn’t be the last either.
Some unfortunate news in Bachelor Nation. Fresh off the heels of Joe and Kendall’s break up a couple weeks ago, the lone remaining couple from that season has called it quits, and Chris and Krystal announced on Valentine’s Day no less that they’ve decided to separate. Now, Krystal posted on her personal FB page apparently that they are just separated and taking time away from each other, but, things don’t look great. I think a lot of us would be surprised if they reconcile. Who knows? Maybe they will. But from everything I’ve heard? Not happening. We’ll see. However, this was not the Bachelor Nation information I hinted about back in November as I was asked that numerous times once this story posted last Friday. As I’ve said from the very beginning, when/if that story breaks I will tell you “that’s the one I was referring to.” You don’t need to keep asking every time there’s a Bachelor Nation story. You will know because I’ll tell you. Will it break? If so, when? I don’t know. People in BN know this story. I’m not sure why no outlet hasn’t run with it yet.
Did you see the first promo for “Bachelor: Listen To Your Heart” last night?
Will they make the perfect duet? ?? Find out when The Bachelor Presents: #ListentoYourHeart premieres April 13. pic.twitter.com/yiB9o5VvGl
— The Bachelor (@BachelorABC) February 18, 2020
Good lord. Gonna be the same extra drama, except with different contestants. And that filter they have over some of the shots that looks like a Barbara Walters special I hope was only for the promo. I swear if we have to watch episodes in that filter like someone is running through a meadow, I might have to throw a toaster at my TV. When you have the same format, same producers, same host, etc you can expect pretty much exactly what you get from the “Bachelor” franchise except with musically “gifted” contestants. But yeah they are definitely gonna start to shove that down our throats now. I’m sure we’ll see a longer promo during the WTA taping on Friday. Count on it.
Get your “Reader Emails” in for tomorrow, although I already have quite a bit. I know “Dr. Reality Steve” has been absent and so has the “He Said, She Said” podcast with Ashley Spivey. Trust me, it’s not gone for good. If you’ve looked at Ashley’s IG stories over the last week, she’s been on a cruise to Catalina, then was in Sun Valley, then was in Miami. So she’s been a bit of a busy bee. Once she settles back in we’ll start recording again. And speaking of Ashley, she will be attending the 6th Annual Reality Steve Fan Appreciation Party again this year with her husband Steve, so that’s great news.
As for the party, I’m basically at capacity at this point. Unless you are flying in or coming in from out of state, I don’t have many spots left. If you are still interested in attending on June 5th at Caesars Palace, and you are from outside the state of Nevada and think you can book your flight or hotel room this week, I might be able to get you in. But you’ll have to hit me up immediately. First time I’ve had it at Caesars Palace and I’m looking forward to it. I’ve already checked out the room this year and it’s two stories, so those that were in attendance last year, I think that will solve the problem of the room being unbearably hot. Anyway, last chance for out-of-state’ers to RSVP. Let me know this week and I’ll see if I can get you in.
kabuki
February 18, 2020 at 7:51 AM
Madison is the best of the bunch, but she is so religious that I don’t think this is going to work out at all. Is he going to try to bend to fit into her religious world? I seem to recall that he said something to Madison about not being as religious as he should be in a past episode. It never works out when you fake it. I think they did a poor job of editing during the “Merissa Reveals Some” portion. It took too long to explain who this random woman was. Victoria is such hard work! Who in his right mind would tolerate that kind of attitude when everyone is supposed to be on their best behavior? Imagine what she is like when the honeymoon period is over and people show their true selves. She is certifiably nuts. She was definitely kept in the game at the direction of the producers–or else he is a glutton for abuse. Hope the Fantasy Suite was worth putting up with the 110% crazy it took to get there!
adelina
February 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM
I had a little panic moment last night thinking maybe they’d make Kelsey the Bachelorette and I sure hope she wouldn’t be considered. Sweet girl. A bit dull. Kelsey needs a makeunder…..all that makeup makes her look 35.
You could see Victoria F coming from a mile away during that lingerie episode where she tried to act so shy and demure. She’s a complete phony and knows exactly what she’s doing.
Hannah Ann seems to be just playing along. There’s no doubt she’s in this for the exposure and although she seems to like Peter, she’s way too young. Loved her father, though. Good man.
I think Madison is too good for Peter. I agree with the poster above about the religious issues….but also, Peter clearly isn’t mature enough to make a good life mate decision at this point. He clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing or how to judge character.
doctordiva
February 18, 2020 at 8:23 AM
There is no honest way to verify your stories from these women. There are always many sides to a story. Will those ex-husbands corroborate the ex-wives stories? Were the husbands the ones to initiate contact with Victoria? Did those men lie about being married? Victoria is 26, how old was she when these events supposedly happened? These could be scorned women who’s husbands flirted with a young pretty girl and now it’s their mission to ruin her reputation. It is never fair to completely take one persons side without evidence. It’s a cop out to say they are hurt by what happened and will never share. If they’re so hurt then just sit down and shut up. Don’t be “hurt” but not too hurt to spread a rumor that can never be verified. Not saying Victoria seems to have the best character but these women are cowards as well.
dogmomma
February 18, 2020 at 8:48 AM
I think that Victoria’s reaction to Peter asking her about what he was told by Merissa shows more of her character. She avoided giving him a direct answer and just started her pouting and crying and running away. She is a good actress…. she plays her role well. I don’t buy into anything she’s selling.
jp22
February 18, 2020 at 9:18 AM
Am appalled by all the hate and judgement piled on Victoria F. The producers set her up over and over, deliberately setting out to ruin her. Of. course she is upset and emotional. She’s ready for a happy time at hometowns and yet another trap had been sprung on her? Disgusting. Chace kisses and tells? Not a real man. Vile and vindictive. Not a good look. And the brouhaha over the hat/ad? Ridiculous. She has nothing to apologize for.
Since when is the Bachelor about sitting in judgment of someone’s past? And I don’t trust catty beyotches like Merissa. There is no way a girl as beautiful as Victoria doesn’t have two tons of jealousy directed at her by women.oh Steve you are so naive.
As manipulative as you see Victoria, that is what I see in Madison. That girl is nothing but a competitive Aries set out to win. And win on her terms. She clearly wants to be a huge virginal Christian social media influencer only the competitiveness, ambition and manipulation is hidden behind the “Lord.” Everyone thinking Madison is so pure and wonderful is gross. She waits till overnights to tell hapless Peter she wants to be a Virgin Queen meanwhile the whole show she is the one constantly kissing him, advertising something she had no plans to deliver. That girl is cold.
Victoria has the antenna to pick up on all the bs and rightly be upset by it all. That’s it. That’s her drama. You celebrate Kelly for this, but vilify Victoria.
Ev
dbla31
February 18, 2020 at 10:11 AM
Genuinely sad to hear about Krystal and Goose. Couldn’t stand either one of them in the beginning (still not sure about him), and then they seemed a little weird and unnatural. But then something clicked and I thought the weirdness works for them. I wish them well.
I see that some of Victoria’s minions have shown up on your comments board… sad that someone who isn’t even all that attractive (compared to others on this show) has such power over others.
justsaying
February 18, 2020 at 10:13 AM
I agree with @doctordiva and @jp22. It takes TWO to tango, the last time I check. The husbands aren’t innocent, don’t just lay it all on Victoria. Too right, who knows who initiated the affairs and what deceptions were told to a very, very young Victoria. Those chapters of Victoria’s life have closed and right, it doesn’t matter anymore and she did apologize for WLM. Who hasn’t been fooled or made mistakes in the past??
Also, Peter isn’t married, so what Merrissa had to say doesn’t even apply to him. Did she even bother presenting any receipts to Peter instead of just dropping a bomb and leave?? Peter should have just scowled and move on but nope, he had to create more drama, of course.
Kelly seems to always have an alcohol-related activity.. just sayin’
What is up with all this nothing-burger of ‘I’m-falling-in-love’ crap. If you’re not friggin in-love, don’t say anything.
jlal
February 18, 2020 at 10:39 AM
Oh man, where to start –
First I agree with jp22 for the most part about Victoria. She was set-up from the first date and they have pretty much done it throughout.
I also would have been pissed as hell at Peter if he would have dumped that crap on me right before my hometown. What a moron and a douche. I don’t know if the producers are egging him on, but come on he is either an idiot or easily manipulated.
I also agree that she is only 26, so just how many married men has she been with? And did she know they were married? Not advocating for dating married men here, but it is not a crime and she was not the one married. Just saying…
As for the modeling gig, she most likely didn’t know what the apparel was before she showed up. Guess she could have left once she did know. However, the company could have explain it was all a play on words, yada, yada, yada and if she needed the money…
All that being said, she is a master manipulator. When she is confronted with something, she gets emotional and attacks. She is very good at turning the tables, and Peter has called her on this behavior. I had an ex that did this very well too. I would end up apologizing to him, when he did something wrong!
I’m strangely sad about Krystal and Goose. They both drove me nuts, but I actually liked them together.
Agree Kelsey needs a makeunder. Way too much makeup/not well applied, but it makes her look older.
I also thought the same thing as jp22 about Madison wanting a career as a Christian social media influencer. Peter as flat out told her he has not been as religious as he could/should. Could he change for her, maybe but doubtful. Also, she seems to place a lot of importance on a partner’s faith, so…
rosegoldea58
February 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM
I didn’t like the way Peter got in such a bad headspace by simply hearing that Victoria had broken up some relationships (if Merissa had specified “marriages” I would be more understanding because that is a lot more intense). I understood that Victoria was upset because she went from being on a high with a guy she was starting to trust, to feeling betrayed by his reaction and questioning her on what was supposed to be such a special night. Frankly, I rely on my own judgments of a person’s character and I expect my SO to do the same and not be easily swayed by gossip, even from a concerned friend. I do not think Peter is strong enough for Victoria.
crushonspivey
February 18, 2020 at 11:28 AM
Those of you coming to defend Victoria F, just stop. She is a hot mess on this season, and her behavior on the show tells the story. The way she acts around Peter is embarrassing, then her ITMs she is so different. The two faces of Victoria F. The girl has some issues, and she is 26. Not 16. Her vocal manipulations have been awful to watch. IT is easy to see that the girl is a manipulator and dishonest. Because she avoids the topics where it gets real and won’t discuss them. I think it is only going to get worse for her in a week when others do more digging.
No guy is strong enough for Victoria, because she is a mess of a person that needs some help being honest, making good choices, not manipulating and owning her crap. Until she does own her crap, she won’t change or grow up.
And those of you going at Maddie, lol, just stop. She is way more honest than Victoria. More genuine due to that honesty. Yeah she is the religious girl, but good for her. At least she isn’t sleeping with married guys. Or acting like a musician was her boyfriend after a 1-night stand. OR pretending to be the shy girl then dressing like she did on the catwalk. Victoria is as phony as they come.
elizabeth82
February 18, 2020 at 11:30 AM
Thank you crushonspivey, I was gonna say the same thing re. why defend Victoria? At best she is messed up and needs to work on herself, at worst she is a manipulator and narcissist.
crushonspivey
February 18, 2020 at 11:32 AM
Also, Peter’s season is awful. HE has handled himself so poorly this season. He was his producers dancing monkey and she steered him wrong for ratings. Made him look really disingenuous. And clueless, easily played. Took him until last night to show some real spine, then walked it back the next morning. His will go down as one of the worst seasons because of his lack of self awareness. HE can blame himself and his producer for it too. Train wreck season with no believable love story arc at all. None. And no girls I’d want to see be the Bachette after this.
ctrealitygirl
February 18, 2020 at 11:35 AM
WOW! Are you people for real??? Even if the stories about Victoria aren’t completely true (which, given her manipulative nature I highly doubt that), she is beyond immature, pouty and extremely manipulative (sorry for the redundancy). She pretty much illustrates her guilt by cleverly avoiding any of Peter’s questions. Her way of handling any tough situation is to start crying, become defensive and deflect blame on the other party. Did any of you not notice that she never answered Peter’s question? Yet, in the long run she had him eating out of her hand. This is one skilled temptress. I’ve seen a lot of women like her and men almost always fall for their “poor little old me” act. She rarely smiles, looks very disinterested in Peter and basically bored all the time. She is definitely NOT there “for the right reasons.” I’m not saying Peter is a great catch, but boy did he get stuck with a bad batch of conniving women. If you recall Victoria P. manipulated Peter in every conversation where he called her out for her bad actions…and like Victoria F, she, too, turned it around to make herself look like the victim. Wake up people. Victoria F is nowhere near ready for marriage and I’d say not ready for any kind of commitment until she does some work on herself and grows up!
nycgal9
February 18, 2020 at 11:41 AM
I must admit I’m a bit surprised he kept Victoria. Not because of what he heard about her, but because of her behavior. Every time things get intense she shuts down, starts to cry and carry on as if everyone is against her. What man in his right mind would want to live like that? Nothing important would ever get discussed or resolved with her bursting into tears and blaming everyone and everything. How about taking responsibility for your actions and being an adult? Life after the show goes back to being ordinary, it’s not all fantasy dates and exotic locations.
As for Madison, she’s the most grounded of the bunch but I agree, waiting till Fantasy Suites is not the time to tell him you’re a virgin. It really should have been addressed long before this. Did she really think he wouldn’t get intimate with anyone, especially after Hannah B. and the windmill?
I actually grew to like Kelsey, but I don’t think either of them was feeling it. The same with Hannah Ann…she still has quite a bit of growing up to do.
I truly hope the next bachelorette is not picked from this last group. They need to go back to mature, established late 20’s to mid 30’s candidates. May be time to freshen things up and bring in someone new, not another Bachelor Nation alumni.
ab38
February 18, 2020 at 11:43 AM
I am honestly in disbelief by some of these comments. And the fact that part of the way you defend Victoria is by taking shots at Madison! How ridiculous. Victoria is ridiculous and so is everyone trying to dismiss all of the bad things she has done in her past. If she has changed, that’s great. But you have to own your mistakes, not lie about them or avoid them. We have all done things we regret but you use those as a way to learn and better yourself, not lie about them and continue to manipulate people.
justsaying
February 18, 2020 at 11:52 AM
Sorry does Merissa really look like she’s not excited to be on tv??
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8twJG9BHFt/
What is so hard to understand. Nobody said Victoria is pure and innocent. I speak for myself, yes Victoria is super-annoying but I’m just saying not all 100% fault is on Victoria. Married men need to take self-responsibility, makes sense??
shenanigans
February 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM
Madison is in a tough spot. On one hand, when you join the show, you have no idea if you will make it to the final three (and an overnight date). Hence, there’s no need to mention your virginity upfront because it might not even be an issue. On the other hand, everyone knows about Peter, Hannah and and windmill because it was on national television. That means that Madison HAD to know that Peter was down with casual sex – and isn’t the kind of guy she wants to marry. To me, that’s why it seems so bad that she waited until the last minute to tell him. She should NOT have gone on the show if that was a dealbreaker.
crushonspivey
February 18, 2020 at 12:08 PM
I think you summed it up well, shenanigans. Peter is the windmill guy. We all knew it, including Madison. I bet her parents knew it too, which is why they were less than psyched. Same with Hannah Ann’s parents. Yet here she is. But I also do not blame her for waiting til now to share that detail. Why air that on national TV if you don’t have to?
Either way, gonna make for some good drama, and it looks like Victoria is happily gonna jump into the mean girl role.
elizabeth82
February 18, 2020 at 12:45 PM
I don’t see how Madison and Peter could possibly work out with the waiting until marriage thing. And she’s the best he has left, so he should just end this single.
Statler Without Waldorf
February 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM
Victoria F. & Peter dancing to Hunter Hayes singing “I don’t want easy; I want crazyyyyyyy” describes Peter’s MO this entire season.?
doctordiva
February 18, 2020 at 1:07 PM
@justsaying I agree completely. Nobody is saying Victoria is mature, nice or even best fit for Peter but I absolutely abhor this “broke up marriages” narrative. That narrative is super problematic and feeds into the misogyny of our society. We have absolutely no proof, not one woman has stepped forward but we are supposed to easily believe a pretty girl “broke up marriages” because isn’t that what pretty girls do. This whole story line of wholesome wife at home while sex-crazed hot girl comes for her marriage is quite ridiculous. These women who want to share this story should step forward but you know what, they honestly probably don’t have proof because its probably a mix of speculation, insecurities, and deceit from their ex-husbands.
ladybirdrn
February 18, 2020 at 1:21 PM
Boy am I glad Hannah Brown didn’t pick Peter. I have a feeling She knew he was no where ready to be engaged. Give Hannah B some credit now None of the last 3 guys she had, have shown me they would of worked out. All want to play the field. This season was a joke. I love this show but I won’t sit through anymore if this is the new direction it’s taking. I really used to look so forward to Monday Bachelor…Bachelorette nights. None of these girls are Bachelorette material.
crushonspivey
February 18, 2020 at 1:43 PM
doctordiva, I posted above I blame the guys 51%. The married person always shares more of the blame in an affair since they were the one breaking the vow. They are the cheater. Whether a guy or girl. They have to own that. But the one the cheat gets with shares blame too. They have to. And as the RS rumors point out, the marriages were with people that Victoria knew. She knew they were married. She has has to own her 49% here. And that is not misogyny. That is cold hard truth. She had sex with guys she knew were married. Guys plural. That is pretty awful because that means there is a pattern here of her not caring about marriage much. With that record, any guy wanting to be part of that is crazy.
bahamameems
February 18, 2020 at 1:46 PM
I think Madison knew about Peter and the windmill just like the rest of the world. I believe what she is trying to get across with her statement to Peter in the previews is that, now that he’s down to the final 3 and he has told her he’s falling in love with her, it would be a deal breaker for their relationship in that situation if he slept with one of the other women. Think about it…those girls are her friends. They have been together for the past 6 weeks. And because of her belief system, she is probably trying to express to him that in their relationship, she wouldn’t be able to continue it knowing he had slept with one of her friends if he’s telling her he’s falling in love with her. Even if there’s a chance he’s saying something similar to the others, she is just expressing HER feelings to him. I can totally see that. It would be a dealbreaker for me too and I’m not on the Bachelor or religious at all!!
phlacampbe
February 18, 2020 at 1:51 PM
These comments are funny – people get worked up on so many things that they don’t have any stake in the game for. Look, the Victoria situation is super messy and obviously Peter is eating it up and playing the producers game. The producers love that people are quite easily manipulated on this show, and in turn so are the viewers. Regardless if Victoria was with married men (which is horrible but also both fault of the two involved), she knew that this show was going to expose any controversial background. If you can’t handle it (like how she shuts down at any mention of a question about her involvement in anything) then people should think twice before going on a show like this. People should definitely think more than twice about doing this show…it is a train wreck, especially this season.
Each person goes on this show to promote a brand they want to make fame on after it ends, that is why almost all of them have staged photos on their IG to start selling ads. It is the way the show has been going for a while now, and it ain’t changing.
angelfish
February 18, 2020 at 2:02 PM
Victoria’s “friends” would accomplish nothing by coming here to defend her but to put more cash into Steve’s pocket. But then judging by her own stupidity, her friends are probably equally brainless.
Driving traffic here is all they would do, as nobody with 1/2 a brain actually believes anything Victoria is saying. It’s all just entertainment, and she is definitely putting on a hell of a show!
And I truly believe that the only people that can break up a marriage are the 2 people in it. If either of them hooks up with somebody else, it’s broken. Maybe fixable, probably not. But both at fault and both are lying cheats. And they never stop once they start.
Victoria will probably be alone for a long, long time. And it’s all on her.
dogmomma
February 18, 2020 at 2:28 PM
This comment section is so much better than the show itself!!!!!
pdxkg
February 18, 2020 at 2:55 PM
Agree with you Doctordiva!!! Great comment. Where to start? While I am not a Victoria fan, Victoria clearly said she did not break up any relationships last night. It is interesting that the show only described her as breaking up relationships, not marriages. I can assume they were unable to confirm the broken marriages claim, so they could not use it. It is hard to believe that these heartbroken women would not tell their story to ABC. They would be guaranteed their anonymity and get to tell the truth of their story, rather than it just be hearsay. Marissa may have had a past relationship with Peter, but it was odd he did not know her home town was Virginia Beach. I am sure you would know where you ex was from if you were in a relationship for 5 months. Also Chase Rice was clearly rattled when Victoria turned up at his concert, so it is easy to assume she was more than a one night stand, but not his girlfriend either. I like Maddison, but I am struggling to understand why she is on the show with her values, other than for instagram folders and to be the next Bachelorette. I assume she is juggling for the Bachelorette lead and trying to work out a way to end the relationship wth Peter now she is in the final 4. Hence the last minute “our values don’t align”. Lastly, I hate the idea that your daughter is your property. The dad’s last night acted like they owned their daughters and they were a special prize to be give the most worthy man. These women are adults and will make decisions for themselves whether their families agree or not.
mmic23
February 18, 2020 at 3:19 PM
Without a doubt, Peter kept Victoria around because he wanted to sleep with her in the F3. No other explanation.
jp22
February 18, 2020 at 9:46 PM
Note that everyone IS against Victoria. Or just the people that matter—the producers. She’s no dummy. What can she think when they send her on a date where her ex is performing? Or she expects to bring Peter to meet her parents but her fameho ex friend is given air time to “warn” Peter. Do you really think anyone is articulate and coherent when they have been blindsided? Plus how can she even begin to speak honestly with Peter about what is happening when what she needs to talk about is how the producers are persecuting her as the season’s villain edit but she is certainly not allowed to have that frank discussion while being filmed? When she says she is over “this” she means not her interactions with Peter, but the bs the producers are putting her and her family through. Really how can you take this show literally?
jp22
February 18, 2020 at 9:50 PM
I agree. Being totally judged on rumors and catty ex friends.
joanne
February 19, 2020 at 12:42 AM
It’s so obvious that Peter is not ready for marriage. Neither is Hannah Ann and definitely not Victoria. The only one who might be is Madison, but she’s far more mature than Peter and has totally different values. I can’t see him lasting with any of them for more than a couple of months.
Kelsey really grew on me as the weeks went on and I could see her as The Bachelorette. I didn’t like the way Peter treated her at the end, it looked like he couldn’t get her in the van fast enough and send her away. He appeared cold and totally indifferent to her feelings.
I didn’t like Airie much but he wasn’t nearly as bad as this guy.
jeepers
February 19, 2020 at 3:26 AM
As Steve has mentioned in the past, the guys are absolutely as much at fault, if not more, than Victoria. BUT they arent the ones who signed up to be on a reality tv show and have their lives unfolded for the world to see. She is not innocent, there is nothing sweet about this girl. The truth is in how she acts with the girls in the house vs how she acts with Peter. Her treatment of Mykenna. Vic F is not a good human being at this point in her life. There may be insecurities at play, but that doesnt excuse gaslighting, mean girling, bullying. Her friends coming on here, jumping to her defense? You are admitting to the things that have been reported by Steve, while she is denying them. Where is the disconnect. Its sweet you want to stand up for your friend, but her actions this season are inexcusable. How about be a real friend and help her see her mistakes and grow into a better human being?
jlal
February 19, 2020 at 3:58 AM
Just to be clear, I am not defending Victoria’s behavior. I am though acknowledging that the show has set her up multiple times. She clearly is a manipulator, that is obvious but I am not holding her past against her.
If she dated married men, then bad on her, but she wasn’t the one married. If Steve’s stories are true, I fault her more for betraying friends. Nobody can break up a good marriage. I too hate that femme fatale narrative, because it takes the responsibility off the married man and blames the women. Screw that. I also don’t split it 49% and 51%, as the married person carries much more responsibility. Victoria was not the one married, she didn’t cheat on anyone. She is a narcissistic manipulator and if very good at playing Peter, but than that doesn’t seem too hard either.
As for Madison, she is my favorite but I don’t think Peter is the right guy for her at all. Peter is no Sean Lowe and she knew that going in. She is young, so maybe thinks she can change him or she is just trying to get as far as she can go. I don’t know what is in her mind.
Also, if you have to tell someone not to have sex with others they are probably not the right person for you.
ctrealitygirl
February 19, 2020 at 6:49 AM
Once again I have to agree with dogmomma! The comments and back and forth about Victoria F, is MUCH better reading than any recap about the show itself! Love it!
deedledee
February 19, 2020 at 10:11 AM
Obvious VF friend is obvious.
deedledee
February 19, 2020 at 10:13 AM
When trying to sound anonymous try harder? Describing your girl as just sooo beautiful and misunderstood you’re outing yourself. Just say “she’s my friend and has redeeming qualities” but pretending to have seen the show only and read this makes your defense nonsensical.
jlal
February 19, 2020 at 10:20 AM
deedledee, who are you talking about? Just curious… Never got it, JP22 right?
dogmomma
February 19, 2020 at 12:22 PM
Yeah, jp22 is definitely one of Victoria’s friends and clearly in denial about her.
pumpkinpup
February 20, 2020 at 5:22 PM
Your post honestly made me laugh so hard I had to create an account right now to reply. You are so obviously one of VF friends and your view of her is disgusting hahahaha
pumpkinpup
February 20, 2020 at 5:30 PM
Sorry, but if you have so many ex friends… that alone says something about you. And it’s nothing good
shellylite
February 20, 2020 at 11:19 PM
Madison should not have come on this show at all if she’s trying to convince Peter to not have sex in the fantasy suites with the other women. That’s little girl stuff. And she’s religious like a little girl too. What about this show attracts people like that?
As for Marlins – yes they are threatened, not endangered yet, but they are seriously overfished. Your website info was from 2013. Since then they have gone down in number and are in trouble, like Blue Fin Tuna. and Red Snapper, people should not eat them. Protecting our ocean life is important! I don’t blame Victoria for that ad campaign, blame the guys who thought it up.
Stephanie
February 21, 2020 at 10:18 AM
Clearly you are friends with Victoria and/or Victoria lol you should try to not be so obvious. Prayers to you and Victoria for honesty and kindness. I pray you all find the strength to handle this situation with grace and truth. It seems a lot of hurt has happened on everyone’s part. Also, remember bullying really gets you nowhere. I get it makes you feel good in the moment but also makes you look immature and ignorant to the feelings of others.
tina111
February 24, 2020 at 2:35 PM
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cjscjs711
February 24, 2020 at 8:11 PM
Peter probably let his best match go somewhere earlier along the line.
I just don’t see the maturity, or even that little spark, I can’t imagine anything long term working out with any of these 3 women.
Victoria – he definitely feels sexual passion for, and her ‘walls’ and extreme craziness seemed to dissolve some after their night of sex; but marriage is about more than that.
And Madison should have indicated to Peter BEFORE any of the fantasy suite dates what her limits and expectations were. She didn’t say anything. He ALWAYS presented as a guy really into sex, going back to Hannah B.’s season.
tina111
February 25, 2020 at 2:41 AM
Thank you very much Priest manuka. i never thought any thing could make my husband come back to me as his wife again, after he broke up with me and left to settle down with another woman who never Knew how we both suffered and share feelings together, thank God today i was lucky to see this great spell caster on a site after seeing a lots of testimony and good work he have done in the lives of people helping them to get their ex husbands and wives renewing their relationship i was convinced and i contacted him and just in 7 days after the spell was caste my beloved husband came looking for me and right now we are together again and he is taking care of me and the little kids as his responsibilities and family. Once again thank you here are his contact to reach him. lovesolutiontemple1@gmail. com or priestmanuka@yahoo. com