As we head down the final week, I’m seriously still trying to get as close as I can to telling you what goes down in the finale. I know what they said last night about “Peter doesn’t even know,” but I think that may be a play on words. I do not think after over 3 months I’m somehow going to get the solid confirmation I need about the finale in this last week. However, I do have a pretty good source that I believe does have the right ending. Albeit they couldn’t provide proof of it, but, it seemingly matches up with a lot of what I’ve heard this season and I believe their account of what goes down is accurate. I’m just trying to see if I can get a couple last few details. Either way, I will share that tomorrow or Thursday on the beginning of the podcast.
What I can report about the finale/ending are these things (most of which I’ve been reporting from the get go):
-It was not a normal final rose ceremony where two girls arrive, one gets dumped, the other gets picked, and he left Australia an engaged man.
-There was no engagement in Australia.
-Madison self eliminates. It’s either during the day portion of her last date with Peter (clips of which we finally saw last night), or on final rose ceremony. But she definitely leaves the show and goes home.
-When Barb is saying “don’t let her go…bring her home to us” that is the same day as when they met Madison.
-Hannah Ann is 100% not with Peter right now.
And no, not because of what happened this past weekend. I’ll get to that in a second. But yeah, one thing I’ve been pretty sure of in the last couple weeks is that as of this moment, Peter is not with Hannah Ann, nor will he be come finale night. I just don’t have anything told to me in the last 3 months that backs that up. HOWEVER, there’s still the issue of did Peter choose Hannah Ann AT the fine rose ceremony after Madison left, thinking that’s what he wanted, only to break it off post-show. We know filming took place post-show in that clip of him saying he’s so sorry and that he never expected this to happen. I’ve heard that theory. I just don’t know if it’s true or not.
But in case you didn’t see or hear, Hannah Ann spent a lot of Saturday with former UT QB Josh Dobbs, a friend of hers. She even posted on her IG story she was with him at the TN basketball game, so it’s not like she was trying to hide it. Now these are unconfirmed reports, but I kept hearing all night on Saturday that people said they were all over each other and making out. Like I said, unconfirmed reports and anyone can say that without providing any proof. Nobody ever did. Not to mention, I can’t imagine Hannah Ann would be that stupid a week before her finale to be making out with someone as recognizable as Josh Dobbs. But nonetheless, these were some of the pics that people did capture of them together. You can draw your own conclusions on if you think she is someone that’s gonna show up next Mon/Tues on the ATFR and say she’s with Peter. Certainly doesn’t seem like it, but hey, who knows?
As mentioned, tomorrow or Thursday I will lay out the scenario from my source of how things play out this season, the end, and post-show. It’s NOT 100% confirmed, but it’s what I’ll run with and see if it matches up come Monday/Tuesday since you’re all wanting something.
As for the WTA, another shit show that did nothing to dispel the notion that so many of the women this season weren’t likable. They get criticized all season and then you give us THAT last night? Holy crap. Certainly didn’t help matters, that’s for sure. Hell, there was even a clip pre-show they released on ABC’s IG page that showed a back and forth between Alayah and Victoria P. in regards to their friendship pre-show that never even made it to air.. What a clusterf**k. Anyway, some other points to hit on:
-Victoria F. said on the show last night she didn’t break up any marriages. She’s lying. I will say what I’ve said for the last 3 months. I’ve spoken to the women who have directly told me she had inappropriate relationships with their then husbands while they were still married. There’s nothing more I can do at this point. If they want to come forward, they know they can. But they haven’t for 3 months, so I doubt they will. And that’s why Victoria F. can sit up there and lie because she doesn’t think they will and it’s just a he said, she said game at this point. I know the truth. I’ve seen the truth. I’ve heard the stories. Victoria F. knows damn well what she did. I stand by my reporting and what Victoria F. said doesn’t shock me in the least. She’s. Lying.
-And for Peter to dismiss Merissa’s claims in a recent interview, downplay their relationship, and back Victoria F., it’s just silly. Of course he can do that now. Has Peter spoken to the women I’ve spoken to? Of course not. So he’s just gonna take Victoria’s word for it. I’d love for Peter to have a sit down and listen to exactly what Victoria did back in the day and then see if he still wants to publicly back someone like that. I’m guessing his tone would be a little different.
-Didn’t Tammy and/or Mykenna do a whole IG post about how they were ashamed of how they acted on the show, and they apologized for how they came off? What was the point of saying if you’re gonna go right back on the WTA and do the same exact stuff? I know production wants you to ramp up the drama, but c’mon. Was that just for show? Do you really not like each other? The whole thing made your “apology” on IG seem pointless. And you know what? When they’re down in Paradise, the same exact stuff will happen. Wash, rinse, repeat.
-Peter got off so easy on his hot seat. Holy crap. I can’t remember a lead never having to answer any hard questions whatsoever in that spot. Did anyone even ask him anything relevant? “Do you wish you made better decisions” I think was the toughest question asked. And might’ve been the only one. Huh? Whaaaaa?
Get your “Reader Emails” in for tomorrow and give me a day or two to try and get any last detail I can from this season. Promise it’ll be up tmrw or Thursday. If it’s Thursday, it will be both in the beginning of the podcast AND in the column.
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adelina
March 3, 2020 at 9:51 AM
Did anyone hear my eyeroll last night when Rachel Lindsey showed up on behalf of ABC Bachelor Nation to talk about how the bullying needs to stop. I get that the messages are ridiculous and the racist nature of some of the messages is unacceptable and awful – but….
This is the same show that tries their hardest each season to edit their show so that at least one person is a villain (bring on the bullying messages) and several others are portrayed as unhinged, unstable, etc. Then they bring their righteous spokesperson out to let everyone know it “has to stop.” Meanwhile the WTA girls are all holding hands as if they’re re-telling a story about all of them being tortured.
Here’s a suggestion….don’t go on the show. Oh, you really want to find love? Okay….maybe shut down your social media accounts. Oh wait, you can’t do that because how else will you get the notoriety and attention that you’re seeking.
Don’t get me wrong. Bullying and racist comments are never okay….but if you anticipate this affecting your mental health, perhaps think twice about participating in this clusterf*ck of a show.
mgb970
March 3, 2020 at 11:07 AM
> And it was nice of them to address the racist,
> hateful messages some of the women received this season.
… and there’s Tammy, whose every other word this season was f*ck or b*tch, crying with the other posers on stage.
Here’s a hint Tammy… YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
mgb970
March 3, 2020 at 11:09 AM
Did anyone have a Tierra flashback last night (I cannot help my eyebrow/part of my sparkle), when Alayah was trying to explain her princess voice, her screwed up personality, etc. last night?
nuts
March 3, 2020 at 11:22 AM
“Peter got off so easy on his hot seat. Holy crap. I can’t remember a lead never having to answer any hard questions whatsoever in that spot. Did anyone even ask him anything relevant? “Do you wish you made better decisions” I think was the toughest question asked. And might’ve been the only one. Huh? Whaaaaa?”
Maybe they were afraid he’d start crying and want his mommy!
kabuki
March 3, 2020 at 12:25 PM
Tammy did herself no favors last night. I swear the camera crew was instructed to be on “eyeroll watch” because there were many shots of Tammy rolling her eyes in very dramatic fashion. If I were watching the show in a group setting, I would have had a drinking contest. Every time Tammy rolls her eyes you have to take a shot. There would have been a lot of buzzed people at my house for sure! Bummer that Kelley was not invited. There were so many women who were eliminated early on–and I had absolutely no recollection of them–but Kelley was deliberately left out because she couldn’t or wouldn’t play the game. Weird that Peter’s parents were rolled out to crash the viewing parties, but I guess it’s because they are local and had nothing else going on at the time. Time to cut the cord, Peter.
jdubtrey
March 3, 2020 at 12:56 PM
So, the way to end the abuse is to just cancel the show?
justsaying
March 3, 2020 at 2:17 PM
Pete, Pete, Pete went from I’m in love with all three women to telling Victoria that he was ‘falling in love’. He just boldfaced lied and lied and lied some more. Madi looked so thrilled to be at the rose ceremony.
Kelsey said ‘I never said I was sober’, cradles a giant champagne bottle and ends the episode by scoffing down more champagne and wonders why she would be called out for alcoholic tendencies?? Really? LOL! Is Kelsey suppose to be flattered to be compared to Asheley I.? Good grief!
Props to Savannah for calling out Pete for sending home one normal lady after another. Savannah is Kelley 2.0.
As for the finale, production must have made Madi spend time with entitled Pete. Just hold your breath Madi and power through and hopefully, she can run for the hills. Hannah Anne, don’t be Pete’s door mat. Just don’t.
crushonspivey
March 3, 2020 at 2:30 PM
After seeing the clips from last night, I have a theory. I think both girls leave. For different reasons though.
Madison leaves because she can’t get over the fact Pete chose to have sex with 2 girls days before he was supposed to propose to her. Show or not, that is just super weird and I can see why some girls/guys would hate that. So she bails.
And Hannah Ann bails because she sees that she is #2. That rose ceremony was awkward for her even after Victoria left. Pete made it clear Madison was his #1 choice. Then in the other preview for next week, it is obvious Hannah Ann is putting Pete on the spot to make his feelings knows. I bet he doesn’t, so she bails.
So Pete is left with no girls at the end, and the mad dash for him to safe face ensues cuz he got blown up by his poor choices.
Also, on After, Chris Harrison blew it with his question to Victoria. He asked if she ended marriages. Of course she could say no. Plausible deniability there as you can claim those marriages ended due to internal marriage factors that had zero to do with her, and the guys cheated because of that. Harrison should have asked her if she has ever had sex with married men. There is no out on that question. And I bet she would have not answered that question.
jlal
March 3, 2020 at 5:15 PM
I agree Crush on the Victoria thing. She didn’t break up any marriages. The only people who can do that are the two married people.
I thought Tammy showed her true colors; can’t blame it on the edit now.
brighteyedgirl
March 3, 2020 at 9:01 PM
Hey, I actually wrote Steve about that theory 3 weeks ago in his reader emails column from 2/12/20 (page 4). He said “No, she’s there on final rose ceremony day.” But I don’t think he understood what I was saying bc I think it’s a very real possibility HA leaves too. We’ll see.
Separately, I understand why the ex married women might not want to come forward with their stories but I hope they find the courage to do so. It’s not right what their husbands did. VF is getting all the heat when it takes two to tango.
dwwatchesreality
March 4, 2020 at 4:44 PM
Just a comment on the privacy question for the Claire spoiler. I think it makes a HUGE difference that it was posted in a PRIVATE group. If you share something from a private group, you should not attach a name to it, huge news or not. If she had been willing to be public with it, she would not have limited her sharing to a private group. People expect privacy when sharing in a private group. Whoever sent you the information is really the one who should have blocked out the name, but my opinion stays the same. I know you disagree with me, but I hope you will at least consider my take. You are well aware of what public exposure can bring, so people should only get brought into public exposure with their full knowledge and permission. How she stated the information should be behind the expectation of privacy. She wasn’t careful with how she shared because she expected privacy.
dwwatchesreality
March 4, 2020 at 4:52 PM
PS – I am NOT part of that Facebook group, but I AM someone who values my privacy, despite quite a bit of addiction to on-line forums. I curate what goes on public pages carefully. I agree that demanding credit to the name when it should never have been used anyway is silly, but it doesn’t change the fact that you have no idea what her reasons are for being posting privately, and as a result you have no idea what destruction you might be creating by going public now. My understanding from the groups I do belong to is that they expect the private group to be credited by name when someone reports on something they read there, but not the poster.