Last night’s episode was chock full of goodies. But I’m gonna try to go in order here so bear with me:
-The very first scene from this season was that flash forward of Chris Harrison talking to Peter at the final rose ceremony. And man, everyone went nuts. All season long people wanted to know 2 things: What is Chris Harrison talking about and who was Barb talking about. Well, you got both your answers this past Monday when I told you, but for the longest time, I did tell you that Chris’ talk with Peter had nothing to do with Madison. And even the day I posted the episode 1 spoilers, I reminded people of how many times they’ve been let down by a teaser. I think we can say now that was a giant letdown. Chris tells him Hannah Ann is thinking of not showing up, Peter goes and lays down on a bed, we go to a commercial, and back from commercial it’s Chris Harrison saying, “Oh, she is coming.” All that build up all season for not much of a payoff if you ask me.
-The engagement itself couldn’t have been more awkward. So many things about that that seemed off and I’m sure you’ve all dissected it to no end. But that engagement alone, knowing everything that happened afterwards, now makes more sense in its cringey-ness. It certainly now seems like Peter only chose Hannah Ann because 1) his family wanted him to and 2) she was the only one left he could’ve chosen. Very hard to convince a lot of us otherwise, but most notably, Hannah Ann herself.
-Hannah Ann couldn’t have handled herself any better than she did both when the breakup happened and during the live show. She eviscerated Peter, as she should have. What were we told by Peter’s ex Calee Lutes long before he ever became the “Bachelor?” That he’s a player, he basically dumped her to go on the show, he’s not interested in settling down, and he just wants to be popular and gain fame from this. But no one wanted to give Calee any credibility because they thought she was a scorned ex. Tell me now after watching everything you saw this season, do you honestly think Peter Weber went on this show to find love, get married, settle down, etc? C’mon.
-Everything Hannah Ann told him was well thought out, well spoken, and right on the money. He couldn’t argue with any of that, and thank God he didn’t put up a fight at the ATFR. He deserved everything she said to him and I don’t disagree with any of it. Neither should any of you really. He played her. He was never truly in love with her that final day in Australia. He tried to convince himself he was, but it’s clear now he wasn’t. I’m not sure what was going through that guy’s head, but he definitely was right about one thing he said last night: he made more mistakes this season than any Bachelor ever.
-Here’s the biggest thing I think that really had me and most of the audience confused last night. We see the proposal in Australia, then come back live to Peter and he gives a few thoughts on his feelings that day, then Chris Harrison says, “Lets see what happened next.” The very next thing shown is the Peter and Hannah Ann meeting at the CA house and them breaking up. We never saw one interaction or anything that their relationship was about to even get an understanding as to what happened. Clearly by watching their convo, THEY knew they were having issues, but we as the audience had literally just seen them get engaged, and now all the sudden they’re breaking up for reasons I still don’t know I could give you or understand. That whole sequence totally made no sense.
-Peter never gave any specific examples of what happened between them, or why he wasn’t all in, or why he was so sorry. “I can’t give her what she wants” is too generic. This is your fiancée. Not some random girl you’re dating. That conversation was as clear as mud. I heard that Hannah Ann went on Rachel and Becca’s podcast out today, so I’m sure she HAD to have at least discussed what their relationship was like and some sort of timeline, no? So until I hear that, I can’t comment. I just hope Hannah Ann isn’t continuing the company line and making it seem like their breakup happened earlier than the last week of January, because it didn’t. Not to mention, that’s certainly giving more credibility to the rumors that when Peter was at Super Bowl Weekend, people were absolutely saying he was acting single. Which we know now he was.
-Which brings us to Barb. There’s nothing ground breaking I’m gonna say that most of you don’t already think after last night. She went after a 23 year old girl on stage for something she did 3.5 months earlier in Australia and she embarrassed her son in the process. Look, I don’t think Peter and Madison have a chance in hell of making it long term, and I’ve said it all season, just because I really don’t think Peter is ready to settle down, and certainly not with someone as different and as grounded Madison. So Barb isn’t wrong in having an opinion they won’t make it. But to be so dismissive about your own son and his happiness, and to basically insult him and embarrass him on national television was just wrong on so many levels. Who does that to their own son? The best thing Peter did all night was take up for Madi when his mom was basically raging against her. And I STILL think Peter could’ve stuck up for her more.
-Peter and Madi already have enough obstacles in front of them to overcome to start this relationship, now you throw in the fact that his family absolutely HATES her. No, they don’t dislike her. They f***ing HATE her. It’s sickening. And I don’t know where this stems from. Yes, reality TV doesn’t show us everything. And clearly something Madison has done or the way she’s acted that we haven’t seen has set them off, but they definitely have it out for her. You don’t think so? Look at what Peter’s brother Jack said on IG last night, piling on Madison.
Like seriously, WTF is wrong with these people? This is your son. This is your brother. If you don’t like Madi, express it in private. Tell him you’re disappointed in his choice. Don’t pull his pants down on national television and basically kill his relationship with Madi before it begins. There is zero chance Peter and Madi make it through this. None. Hell, they might not even make it through the weekend. I just think they’re too different and I’ve said it all season. But now with this sort of vitriol and hatred coming from his own family towards her, why would she even WANT to be part of this? You think her Christian family watched that last night and isn’t gonna be an influence on HER telling her to get out of this thing? Now, if Auburn didn’t have the SEC Tournament this week and then March Madness starting next week, I’d say Peter and Madi would be finished by Saturday. But hey, maybe Peter wants to get some tickets out of this and be seen with her at the SEC Tournament this week and then the NCAA’s next week. Who knows? But as for the Weber family, what an embarrassment to treat your own son that way in public. Disgraceful and total lack of class.
-Something else that came up during that live portion when Barbara had verbal diarrhea ripping Madison and Peter’s relationship to shreds was this:
And if THIS is true, and that’s what she said to her husband in Spanish? Yikes. pic.twitter.com/7IFucCkLhm
— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) March 11, 2020
Now, to play devil’s advocate, someone emailed me last night and said this in regards to what said:
“The Cuban accent really drops off vowels at the end of words. So she said ‘di also mas Tambien, ayudame’ or ‘say something else too, help me.’ If she would’ve meant ‘bad’ she would’ve said ‘malo’ with an O on the end. ‘Di algo mal’ would mean ‘say something wrong’ where mal means ‘wrong.’ Hope that cleared it up a little!”
Tom-aye-to. To-mah-to. The idea behind it is still the same. Barb was saying to her husband, “back me up here. Don’t you dare say something positive and support them.” Again, I cannot believe the gall of this family to act that way because they don’t like their son’s new girlfriend. I’m floored by what I saw last night.
-Also not to mention if you didn’t see this on Twitter yesterday, that what Barb said about Madison taking 3 hrs before meeting them in Australia, not apologizing, saying she wasn’t in love with Peter, and then saying she wouldn’t accept a proposal in 4 days, is all stuff Barb told someone privately on DM yesterday afternoon when they emailed her calling her out for her behavior Monday night.
I believe every word Barb said tonight bc she told someone THE EXACT SAME THING IN A DM EARLIER TODAY. Wow. She truly despises Madison. Feast your eyes… pic.twitter.com/TKPVkldKYT
— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) March 11, 2020
This was sent to me in the afternoon yesterday and I was like, “Whoa. There’s no way Barb says this on TV, does she?” Well, she did. And I still can’t believe it less than 12 hours removed from it.
-So where does that leave things now? I’ve heard rumors last night was even worse than what went down on TV. I was told Barbara ripped into production post-show. She’s putting the blame on them for Peter getting back together with Madison.
-I was specifically told this by someone close to the situation: “What a mess. Didn’t see that coming. There could have been SEVERAL outcomes tonight and was truly shocked on that one. Lets just say there were other girls involved in that picture that weren’t mentioned.”
Sooooo yeah, Peter and Madi are doomed. I don’t buy any of that relationship we saw last night unfortunately, because now all these rumors I’ve been hearing for months of “Oh, Peter slept with so-and-so” and “Oh, Peter was here doing this with this girl,” honestly, I can’t rule any of them out. The playboy I heard about all season seems to be coming true. At first it happened at the expense of Hannah Ann, and now it looks like it’s gonna happen at Madi’s expense. Get out while you can, Madi. Don’t fight for this anymore to prove Barb wrong. You’ll never win her over no matter what you do, and honestly, you shouldn’t want to. He’s not worth fighting for, and I guarantee the stories of women he was messing around with the last 3 months are coming full force now. Get ready for them.
justsaying
March 13, 2020 at 7:06 AM
Darn it, as much as I am well aware how they’re not compatible and Peter’s an idiot, I just wish they’d stick together just to stick it to evil Barb.
kabuki
March 13, 2020 at 8:01 AM
Come on, Steve! Where is your post on the break up. I give you credit. You called the break up before this weekend. No way was Peter going to rock the family boat. This whole thing reminded me of the Prince Harry/Meghan Markle fiasco. When a lot of other people warn you about someone, it is wise to listen, otherwise you risk blowing the family apart. Let’s hope the Weber family can heal the rift. After all, Peter still has to share the common areas of his parents’ house with them.
ctrealitygirl
March 13, 2020 at 8:03 AM
I’m leaning toward believing Steve’s theory that Peter & Madi never really were together and that they made it look that way just for the finale. Pete certainly didn’t look like man in love. I really hate that Barb got her way!
kata20
March 13, 2020 at 9:06 AM
So Peter and Madi broke up? Madi was brought in just to save face. Peter’s mother did not have to react the way she did on national TV. She could have kept her mouth shut for few hrs. It was not about her.
For Peter to have a happy ending he needs to move out and away from his controlling family and do some growing up. Good luck finding another woman now since the whole country knows about his family situation.
justsaying
March 13, 2020 at 9:27 AM
@kabuki Say whattt?? Peter is nothing like Harry. Harry is actually in love with Megan and he is protecting his family from the evil press.
Peter will never get another girlfriend with any hint of opinions again with Barb around. Peter is weird. He loses interest on a girl the moment the chase stops. He needs therapy.
mgb970
March 13, 2020 at 12:37 PM
The #TeamBarb people digust me.
Not one thing I’ve seen yet, NOT ONE, of the reasons why they support that despicable woman, is rooted in any kind of fact. It’s just all slurs and attacks on Madi’s character.
Kinda of interesting that a couple of weeks ago we get Rachel on to talk about all the hateful people and then the next week, we get mega-doses of it in Barb.
crushonspivey
March 13, 2020 at 12:48 PM
The Barb supporters are wrong simply because they are condoning her boorish behavior. She could still hold the opinions she did, and have handled it better. That is the issue. She was mean and didn’t need to be. You can express concerns without personal attacks. And damn, her son has issues because of her.
Pete and Madi had no chance, not just because of differences in life choices, but because of a wicked mother who was hell bent on nuking the relationship. Time for Peter to cut the umbilical chord and get to a therapist because he needs to figure out who he is without that horrible and controlling parent telling him how to live.
dogmomma
March 13, 2020 at 2:37 PM
And for all the Barb supporters, I saw where she’s gone to a tabloid magazine and done an interview and continues to bash Madi. And Peter’s brother is also still bashing her. Yet Madi isn’t running and doing interviews bashing the Webers for treating her so horribly. When I read Peter’s Instagram post about their decision not to pursue the relationship, I didn’t take it that they broke up because they were never really a couple. They probably reunited for the ATFR just so that it wouldn’t look so bad for the show.
mgb970
March 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM
@dogmomma
Pete’s bother is a POS. I cannot believe he’s attacker her the way his is. He is definitely his momma’s boy
justsaying
March 14, 2020 at 11:02 AM
@dogmomma, Barb is the typical controlling nightmare. The moment she doesn’t like you, she cuts you off and launches a smear campaign.
dogmomma
March 14, 2020 at 5:41 PM
Yes, she would be any woman’s worst nightmare as a mother-in-law, or is that Monster-in-Law??
She continues to disgust me as she tries to stay relevant in the news. Her behavior is repulsive. Now she’s trying to get Kelly to go out with Peter. All of the girls this season should now be thankful that they don’t have to deal with her.
itsjustafarce
March 14, 2020 at 7:59 PM
“Who does that to their own son?”
Quite possibly a mother who is thoroughly ddisgusted and ashamed by her son’s actions, choices and overall behavior on national television?
While part of me thinks it would have been better to have restrained herself, there is another part which was glad to see Barb both call out Madison for her actions, and Peter and Madison as being a terrible match.
I don’t think Madison is evil incarnate, but I do not buy into her being mature and grounded either. Given her responses and apparent lack of accountability and respect on stage, as well as Barb’s comments that there was more to their interaction which was not aired, the timing of her virginity announcement, her not-an-ultimatum-actual-ultimatum, and her vacillating decisions, Madison came across to me as a prototypical, angst-ridden teenage girl. She has a lot of growing up to do, before she is anywhere near ready for a successful adult relationship.
Lastly, although it certainly could not have helped, I doubt that Peter’s and Madison’s final breakup had much of anything to do with Barb or the rest of his family. Certainly no more so than Madison’s father and family.
With its terrible bachelor, dramatically immature women, and all the transparent tampering by production, this was a terrible season. I thoroughly hated and enjoyed it, and I will never watch again… at least until next season!
PS: Thanks for the spoilers!
dogmomma
March 16, 2020 at 2:16 PM
But Barb could have saved her nasty attitude and comments for when she wasn’t on camera. Honestly, as viewers we don’t get to see the whole picture, so we don’t really know what happened behind the scenes unless we worked in production. It’s unfair to place blame on someone with only a small part of the story. But people are criticizing Barb because we (the viewers) watched her show a really nasty attitude toward a young girl that she clearly hates. That isn’t taking the high road. She should have just grounded Peter for a month after he got home, and maybe made him do extra chores around the house as punishment. She came across as a very bitter woman on TV.