It’s coming…
— RealitySteve (@RealitySteve) June 14, 2019
This tweet had meaning. So did my June 5th column the day before I left for my Vegas party. Told you I was working on something, and it was something I could only really remember doing once before in the history of my site. At the time, I thought I would have it. I don’t. But as we know, every season after I reveal the spoiler, I get sent numerous things every season about it being wrong. Some have ended up being legit (Ali, Kaitlyn, Rachel) where I had to change the ending and it ended up being correct. But sometimes I get told I was wrong with my initial spoiler (Emily didn’t pick Jef she’s with Arie, Andi didn’t pick Josh it’s Nick that video was fake, JoJo didn’t pick Jordan, etc). Basically every season I post the spoiler, at some point during the next few months someone will tell me the spoiler is wrong and they’re hearing different. Sometimes they’re right, sometimes my initial spoiler is right. This year has been no different. 3 weeks ago I started hearing that Hannah was with Jed and not Tyler. Started looking into it, and the Tuesday before I left for Vegas is when I got the most interesting tip about a possible Hannah and Jed engagement. So I’ve spent the better part of the last two weeks doing all I can to figure out it’s legitimacy. And now I finally feel comfortable and can report:
Hannah chose Jed at the end and they are engaged.
Some fans are losing their marbles now because they were so convinced it was Tyler. Hell, I did too for a bit. But it’s not. And frankly, there’s nothing I can say to convince you it is Jed, so I’m not gonna try. And I ain’t even mad at ya’ if you don’t believe it. The thing I was referring to when I said “it was something I could only remember doing once before” is I thought I was going to be able to tell you HOW I know she’s with Jed, but realized I couldn’t. Only other time I was able to do that was the Nick video where I had actual proof of it. Sorry the initial Tyler info was wrong. Just wasn’t as solid as I thought it was. But the info about Jed from 3 weeks ago is as solid as I can get and I just have to leave it at that. I’m well aware people will still hold out hope it’s Tyler and you have every right to. All I’m doing is telling you what I was told based on the people I’ve spoken with, the information I’ve seen, and frankly, one major piece of information that’s floating out there. I’m confident in this and I’ll leave it at that. Every time I’ve had to change my spoiler in the past (Ali, Kaitlyn, Rachel) it’s ended up being right, so, take that for what it’s worth. I wouldn’t change the biggest spoiler of the season unless I had something pretty solid to go off of. I believe I do.
Now, from this point forward, you will no doubt hear “It’s Tyler, he’s wrong.” Hell, I’m already hearing it when I started asking around and I hadn’t changed the spoiler til today. Trust me, there are people that fully believe it’s Tyler. Now, do they believe it because the spoiler has been out there for a month it was Tyler and they’re just regurgitating what they heard, or, do they actually know something? If I went into detail what I’ve dealt with the past 3 weeks and what I’ve heard, your head would spin. Mine did. It’s what I deal with every season. Sometimes my own spoiler does me in. Since it isn’t Tyler, I guess you’d have to ask each of them individually why they think/know it’s Tyler. Nobody will be able to come up with anything solid. When I looked back at my initial notes on it, and the one thing that put me over the top to post it was Tyler, I thought it was solid, but it wasn’t solid enough. There will be A LOT of discussion over this until July 29th. I’m fully aware. But I can only go with the most recent solid info I received and I believe it to be the most trustworthy. Wish I could share it, but I can’t.
Also, you will no doubt hear that “Hannah chose no one, she’s seeing both Tyler and Jed post show and will make a decision at the ATFR,” because yeah, I’ve heard that one too. I’ve heard everything on the table. It’s been a crazy two weeks I tell ya’. There’s basically nothing I haven’t heard in regards to the ending. But it’s Jed, they’re engaged, and that won’t change from me the rest of the season. There hasn’t been anything more concrete on Hannah and Jed than what I received a few weeks ago.
Now with that said, we have the whole issue of a new couple, Jed and Hannah, and the rumors surrounding that. I have to be vague here since nothing has been proven, no one has come forward putting their name to it, and until someone does, it’s all speculation. But let me just say this: I have heard it. All of it. Since the second he was announced as a contestant all the way back in March. I’ve talked to people directly involved and they do not want to come forward. They want no part of this, even though I told them that Jed is engaged to Hannah. I can’t force anyone to do anything they don’t want to do. I reached out to the people I needed to, some responded, some didn’t. Hard to know what to believe is true and what isn’t if no one will own up to it. So for the time being, we plow forward. If knowing the new spoiler changes anyone’s viewpoint and maybe now they feel the need to speak on this, hey, I’m right here. Lets just say the whole situation sucks. There is one thing I saw personally but could never share because it would out a source. Lets just say it’s right in line with exactly what Jed told Hannah on their 1-on-1 in RI about “using this show as a platform.” Again, I wish I could provide more, but I can’t out sources.
I KNOW you have questions. I do. What about this tweet? What about family liking this person on Instagram? What about Tyler’s third cousins half sisters roommate who started following Hannah right after the show? What about how great Tyler and Hannah look together? Like I said, there’s nothing I can tell you to combat any of that. If in your mind you believe she’s with Tyler, then nothing I say will change your mind. So if you think it’s Tyler, it’s very easy to create a narrative of all the stuff you see on screen, all the stuff you hear Hannah say in interviews about Tyler, and all the social media Hannah and Tyler similarities to back up your point. All anyone can do is speculate at this point, and I get it, that’s what people do. But after the fact, when it’s not the person they thought it was, that speculation meant nothing. You can easily make a case right now post-show that A) Hannah is with Jed B) Hannah is with Tyler C) Hannah left single. Easily. I can make them for everyone if you’d like. Because anyone can make an argument to fit the narrative they want to believe. But only one of them is true, so that’s why the different narratives don’t mean much in the long run.
I don’t wish ill will on any couples from this show. Do I think most of them will last? No, I don’t. I think this show has turned into a show more about opportunity and advancing careers than I do about finding someone to spend the rest of your life with. The ones that do make it, congrats to them. They are the exception, not the rule. So until something concrete is proven, or until someone wants to puts their name to a story, it’s all just words and speculation. I said it during Jed’s 1-on-1 date at the time, and I’ll say it again: he admitted to initially coming on the show because it was a platform for his music. That shouldn’t be forgotten. Because he met Hannah and fallen for her her doesn’t change the fact the show is still a platform for his music. He’s not quitting his music career because he’s with her. I’m much more skeptical about the whole thing and his intentions than I am with all the hearsay and speculation going on. I just don’t see it long term based on what I’ve gathered. But hey, we’ll see.
justsaying
June 18, 2019 at 10:05 AM
I thought all Hannah got going with Tyler was just physical chemistry. And opportunistic-stocky-Jed, mehhh.. not my type. Peter is too dorky for me.
Mike for Bachelor!
nevermiss
June 18, 2019 at 10:07 AM
So disappointed. Love Tyler and they seem like a good fit. The Jed thing just won’t work. I also love Hannah. She is honest, open and refreshing. I love how she puts the men in their place and wish the guys could get over their Luke P obsession. Also love how open and blunt she is about being a horn dog!
As for BIP—poor Blake. Seems like a good guy that suddenly figured out how easy it is to get laid and doesn’t know how to resist! He will learn. Hopefully the world doesn’t tear him apart before then.
SeaDub
June 18, 2019 at 10:23 AM
Been watching this show since day 1. (I’m convinced the smarter you are the dumber the TV you watch. So I’m pretty friggin’ smart, but not a genius as I don’t watch any of the Real Housewives or the Kardashians.) And Hannah is the best lead to date. Real, goofy, not polished, not perfect, calls it as it is. Hate Luke P, but because Hannah is callin’ it as it is, understand why she keeps him around (didn’t we all have that guy at some point in our 20’s – the one who everyone did not like for us, but yet….). And then when she finally figures it out, gives him the bird. Bravo ABC…finally letting people be a bit more real.
And RS…fantastic spoilers today. blakey, blakey, blakey *shaking head*. Blake is the new Bob Guiney.
joanne
June 18, 2019 at 11:40 AM
Jason was my favorite from Becca’s season, but I liked Blake a lot too. Very disappointed to read this about him, but I hope it makes him change for the better. He’s certainly not the first person from this franchise to have let it go to his head.
crushonspivey
June 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM
BIP this summer is gonna make for some great TV drama. And it all sounds as real as the wedding between Marcus and Lacey turned out to be. Scripted, fake TV drama. That’s all BIP is.
crushonspivey
June 18, 2019 at 11:47 AM
Also, Hannah is still pretty dumb, and easily controlled by her producer. But credit to her for getting a little better at communicating and for showing a spine with the guys. And those guys by the way–what drama queens. This franchise really struggles with finding men. Lots of whiny boys flock to it though.
hollyjo713
June 18, 2019 at 12:43 PM
LOL. You nailed it!
ladyjane747
June 18, 2019 at 1:53 PM
I really like Hannah as the lead. She’s fun to watch, so refreshing. Maybe she’s keeping Luke P around for ratings or producer manipulation, don’t know, but the guys should just let her figure it out and stop being such whiny little beotches. Very bad look for Garrett. In a way, I’m glad she doesn’t pick Tyler because I’d like to see him as the lead – so good looking. Mike is fine, but he’s a drama queen. The guys who stayed out of the fray last night came off looking so good. Poor Conor is always getting the shaft! First the date when she’s sick and then all the bickering when he was trying to have a convo with her.
CarolH
June 18, 2019 at 1:56 PM
I like Hannah and think she is a great bachelorette…she tells it like it is…but am so disappointed that she chose Jed over Tyler who I think is absolutely adorable and really cares about her. It is too bad that a runner up can’t be the bachelor…that would be a great season with Tyler.
tinyred500
June 18, 2019 at 2:12 PM
Hannah is my favourite lead to date, along with Emily M. She’s totally natural and real. What a shame she didn’t pick Tyler though, he’s my fav out of the men, but it’s only her choice that matters.
Yucky on Blake, too bad fame has gone to his loins. He’s not the first contestant, and won’t be the last for fleeting fame to spoil him.
sb3018
June 18, 2019 at 4:46 PM
Looks like Jed’s ex did come forward to People. Quite explicitly. Just when I was getting excited about him being chosen by Hannah. ? This cannot be good. Will she try to get Tyler back? No one would blame her.
dogmomma
June 18, 2019 at 5:04 PM
I’m in agreement with lots of the above. I like Hannah because she’s different and it’s refreshing to have someone who doesn’t try to be perfect. I can relate to her not being polished and speaking her mind. And I’m not sure how I feel about Jed winning her heart. I did like her and Tyler together. And as for Blake… he was so well liked and turned out to be womanizer. I bet Becca is glad she didn’t choose him.
justsaying
June 18, 2019 at 5:08 PM
‘I don’t want my dad to have to help me pay rent anymore.’
If the quote is true, I call JED-THE-LOSER!!!
No excuses at 25 to still be a leech!
justsaying
June 18, 2019 at 5:33 PM
I thought Hannah was big-headed in the latest episode, reprimanding the guys. And she’s all me-me-me, the whole session.
Reminds me of the time Deanna exploded on the guys saying how this is her journey and also all about me-me-me
rob22
June 18, 2019 at 6:37 PM
I like Hannah as the lead. But not because she’s real or honest. It’s because she’s a freaking train wreck! She goes off on the guys for their drama when she could have EASILY eliminated all of the drama by sending Luke P home. She CAUSED the drama, got mad at the guys, had a crying jag like the train wreck that she is, and THEN gave Luke another rose…. assuring more drama. But her poor decisions, excessive drinking and over emotional reactions are what makes the season potentially great. I always root for the s**t show. It looks really good that the whole season is going fully off the rails. Love it!!
mackin3
June 18, 2019 at 8:50 PM
I’M SO PUMPED!!! this means Tyler can be bachelor!!!!!! Because why wouldn’t they pick him, literally every other tweet I see is all about Tyler
tinyred500
June 18, 2019 at 11:40 PM
@robb, Don’t you think the producers input might be the reason Luke is lasting as long as he is? I’m sure Hannah likes him, but….
Remember ‘Ole Sparkle’ Tierra on Sean’s Series?! She long outstayed her welcome, and everyone wanted her gone well before she eventually got sent home.
mymanzwife1980
June 19, 2019 at 2:46 AM
You don’t think that due to the fact Blake’s mother had affairs with both his high school English teacher and basketball coach, that that didn’t leave an extremely negative impression on him in how he views women? Of course it did. Maybe Caelynn and Kristina don’t need to be so easy, either. Goodness. And we’re not supposed to get all judge-y if a Bachelorette lead were to have sex with more than one guy in the fantasy suites. How many days separate those dates?
tinyred500
June 19, 2019 at 3:38 AM
According to Steve’s comments, Blake’s shenanigans took place in April etc., so before BIP was filming.
If Blake’s behaviour towards women was no different ‘before’ he went on the Bachelorette then perhaps it could be argued his Mother’s behaviour ‘might’ have affected him. If not, then fame has gone to his head, because why all of a sudden would his Mum’s behaviour affect him? Also, we don’t know what he’s saying to all these women, it appears (from Steve’s comments, I’ll have to go back and re-read) only Hannah G knew about the others. So if Blake is not being honest with each of them, then it’s much harder to see him favourably. I would view a female the exact same way if she was doing the same.
Going from one sexual partner is never healthy for either men or women, so in that sense it’s no different for either gender. However, since when have men been given the harder time when it comes to sexual behaviour and partners? It’s usually women’s behaviour that gets called into question, not the other way round.
There is one day between each overnight date for both the Bachelor and the Bachelorette.
blondebombshell
June 19, 2019 at 4:56 AM
Ugh, I was so content with the Tyler spoiler. He just seems like a good, genuine guy. I’ll be SO disappointed if it does end up being Jed after all. He just smells of opportunism, and doesn’t seem to be there for Hannah at all. I think he’s lucky to be where he is, able to self promote, and it doesn’t hurt that a girl that’s way out of his league is into him as a bonus. Seriously, he’s the worst looking one of the bunch and doesn’t exhibit how much he cares for her like Tyler and Peter do. Both of them did a great job trying to diffuse the situation last night (I don’t blame Hannah for being upset. The guys were acting like drunk frat boys rather than trying to demonstrate husband potential.) Also, have you seen the way Tyler LOOKS at her?! That’s love right there.
realitynyc12
June 19, 2019 at 7:02 AM
Ok, I’m sorry but are people actually trying to explain Blake’s behavior with “fame went to his head” and “his mother cheated so it affected him” and even saying poor Blake? How about poor Caelynn?? The girl survived sexual assault and everyone watching Colton season knew it. And Blake thought it was a good idea to sleep with her and then tell her it’s a mistake? Yes it takes 2 to tango and it was her decision to do so but maybe she really liked him and hoped for something to come out of it. She also didn’t know he was juggling 3 other women too.Dont place blame on these women, why dont we rightfully blame the f*ckboys that have no shame. I mean there are players and then there’s Blake, he’s just next level. I hope he gets raked through the coals properly on BIP and people never look at him the same way again. I liked him on Beccas season, everyone did. But just goes to show what a positive frontrunner edit can do for a person. He clearly doesn’t give a crap about anything or anyone except getting laid and that’s not just fame going to anyone’s head. That’s a person that has zero morals. Nor is he very smart for that matter, he honestly thought he can screw with 4 women who were all rumored to be going on the BIP, then go on BIP himself and wouldn’t be found out?? Geez, dude is really a few fries short of a happy meal, isn’t he? Unbelievable.
He’s going to make the “I’m out of retirement and ready for action” Chris Bukowski look great this season! Lo
As for Hannah with Jed, I’m on the same bandwagon. Really liked her with Tyler who is just into her and doesn’t have a music career to promote. But really hope this means Tyler is next Bachelor, they dropped the ball when they didn’t go with Peter Kraus of Rachel’s season and instead served us bland as can be Arie. Hopefully they wont make that mistake again and go with who viewers find appealing this time around. And the “Nick 2.0” Peter the Pilot ain’t doing it for me personally so Tyler seems like the obvious choice here…
tinyred500
June 19, 2019 at 8:16 AM
I think you’ve probably said it best overall about Blake. For me at least, I say the fame has gone to head, simply because I don’t know what his behaviour was like before The Bachelorette; I prefer to reserve judgement on that.
rob22
June 19, 2019 at 12:00 PM
@tinyred: of course it could be producer manipulation that has caused Hannah to keep Luke P. But, and I admit that I don’t know this since the show is presenting what they want to present, it appears to me that Hannah is choosing to keep Luke P because she has the warmies for him. She pretty much had let him go during the last show, and then decided to think about it, then gave him the rose. So, yeah. The producers could have asked for a mulligan after Luke left, allowing him to come back. And she does seem to understand that he’s a big problem. But why all the crying then about the drama. Keeping Luke around just fosters more of it. If you decide to keep him, then why all the surprise that the drama continues. Anyway, I’m sure Hannah will cop to it eventually. And admittedly Luke is ratings gold. The lying and gaslighting are a thing these days, I guess. Why waste it?
justsaying
June 19, 2019 at 12:44 PM
Hannah has bad taste in men since good guys are too boring for her. She craves drama and seeks for dysfunctional men. Then, she turns around and cries, wondering why she can’t find a good husband. Then, all her girlfriends roll their eyes for the umpteenth times listening to her spewing her victim stories. Eventually, her girlfriends will quit on her since she refuse to pick a good guy standing right in front of her.
tinyred500
June 19, 2019 at 3:04 PM
@robb, I hate to agree….many great points. Even if some of her decisions are producer driven, she’s making other mistakes and with other men as she goes. Not forgetting her final pick of Jed, it’s probably not the best choice for relationship longevity.
‘Warmies’! Lol very subtle and oh so polite…it made me giggle. 😀
realitynyc12
June 19, 2019 at 4:45 PM
It occured to me too that this whole Blake and 4 women triangle ( um, pentagram?? Lol) may be scripted. Wonder how much they each got paid, especially Blake, to be willing to come off as this much of a toolshed he must’ve gotten more than a few Benjamins… hmm….
dogmomma
June 20, 2019 at 2:09 PM
But to accept money in order to come off as a complete jerk? If he did, he may regret it after his reputation gets slammed…. or not.
upmyalley
June 29, 2019 at 3:55 PM
Omg I remember that! One guy said something to Deanna about not living and breathing her. It was when she was whining about the guys having fun together rather than paying her enough attention. He said: ‘were you expecting me to be OCD, obsessive compulsive Deanna’? I laughed my ass off. You know that guy didn’t get a rose but don’t think he cared.
upmyalley
June 29, 2019 at 4:10 PM
I completely agree. She’s a wreck and the one who caused all the drama. I don’t like her at all. I think she’s clueless about men, can’t read in to red flags and needs to develop thicker skin. She needs a therapist and a life coach not a husband. She will be ready for marriage when she learns the art of discernment. She complained that the guys don’t know anything about her then spends her time with them kissing and jumping their bones, not conducive to talking about serious things or getting to know each other through conversing. And lastly, she’s mounted more men than the Canadian Mounted police have horses! In the end, she pretty much caused her own bad ending. Things may have been different if she had let go of her obsession with Luke the puke and spent more time getting to know the guys she let go.
upmyalley
June 29, 2019 at 4:38 PM
I’m thinking there maybe has to be something a bit wrong with everyone who goes on these type shows. I read Hannah as having had an expectation of rainbows, butterflies and fairies with a fairytale ending going into this. But she got a rude awakening mostly caused by herself with choices she made along the way. It makes me sick though seeing the kind of people they pick to be on. Yeah, some for the sake of drama and clearly knowing who they can manipulate into being their ‘villain’ for the season and some with very questionable character who were not properly vetted. It seems they don’t care and get away with it every season as one or more people get outted for past or present misconduct. Why should they care? That’s what the iron clad contracts are for-protecting themselves not their leads. Chris and producers are so fake acting like they care when they don’t. If you agree to do this show, you pretty much have to accept the outcomes. Foolish people. But we love watching their train wrecks! Lol
shella
July 1, 2019 at 10:03 PM
Steve you are clueless about what you think happened with Luke and the overnights. Here is the reason you’re confused about Luke. Luke knew Hannah had sex before. And you’re right that the topic came up around the overnights and most likely he did ask her if she slept with anyone else. And you’re probably right that she did ask him what he would think if she HAD slept with one of the others. At that point he told her he would lose respect or not accept it and she blew up. NOT because she had sex with one of the others but she was testing him because she is ASHAMED that she had sex before, at any point. She shouldn’t be as long as she understands it was not the right thing to do, which she suggested she did understand. It’s almost guaranteed she did not have sex on the overnights with any guy. And no, if she did have sex with any of them it wouldn’t be alright, it would be sleazy (same for the men). We don’t need unwanted kids in the world. Sexual responsibility is required of any decent person. Aren’t prepared to have a kid with someone? Don’t have sex, or get sterilized before you do. Otherwise society has every reason to judge you negatively.
But no, Hannah did not have sex during the overnights. Not that kind of girl. But she still harbors shame for ever having done it before marriage and she thought Luke was judging her, and that’s why she lashed out. He probably wasn’t judging her, only answering whether he would if she’d done it with any of the guys on the show. GET IT NOW?
gentz1005
July 3, 2019 at 6:56 AM
Me too. I was so content. I just found out that there was a spoiler change. Why wouldn’t the producers have approved this situation differently? I feel like when other contestants have significant others or potential ones at home still they make note of it on the show. I feel like Jed should not have been on the show and dragged Hannah on.
gentz1005
July 3, 2019 at 6:57 AM
Approached*
bp3719
July 9, 2019 at 11:42 AM
I haven’t read one single word of your spoilers. But I know one thing that isn’t a spoiler, but a FACT. You are a PAID individual who thinks he’s important. You have no redeeming values and like most bottom feeders, take the fun out of our TV entertainment I am personal friends with a former rock star you did your best to exploit over a period of approximately three years. You failed miserably. You’re a fraud.
dave4881
July 11, 2019 at 9:26 AM
This show is manipulated by the producers and even scripted at times… Have you noticed that there is always one individual that is controversial and causing strife among the players? That is no accident, but merely a strategy of the production staff to keep the audience in “awe”. Some of the players are very revolting, i.e., Luke Parker!